Orals Only - Your Opinion Please

[Big Burt]

I'm a 44 year old man who want's to start using. Work out 4x a week, diet is great, plenty of sleep, yadda, yadda. I've just never used gear of any kind.

I'm 210 and 6'. Got a pretty good base and have been lifting for about 5 years consistently.

I want to know if there is an oral I can use that will give me the gains I'm looking for. I know the benefits of depot test, but would rather not inject. Is there a good oral that will help me gain muscle mass effectively?

I hear dbol is good.

Please let me know. Reply here or email me at

Thanks everybody.

 

[25homes]

You could run a 6 week dbal cycle but you wouldnt retain much.....man up inject once a week...there is no pain involved and it is once a week...is that worth 25lbs of muscle to you??

 

[TEX25]

I'm not huge on oral only cycles. Too much on the liver on my opinion. Here are a couple of options:

Paper products
Anavar
Dbol


You will get much better results by injections. Might want to consider it Burt.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

orals only cycles are not reccomended, though you can get good results from them. at your age you should consider the health implications of orals only more seriously (liver, blood lipids, etc)

 

[Zuperman]

PCT is my oral

 

[Mr.X]

I'm a 44 year old man who want's to start using. Work out 4x a week, diet is great, plenty of sleep, yadda, yadda. I've just never used gear of any kind.

I'm 210 and 6'. Got a pretty good base and have been lifting for about 5 years consistently.

I want to know if there is an oral I can use that will give me the gains I'm looking for. I know the benefits of depot test, but would rather not inject. Is there a good oral that will help me gain muscle mass effectively?

I hear dbol is good.

Please let me know. Reply here or email me at

Thanks everybody.

At 44 you would do well with just HRT/TRT, have you consulted an HRT doctor?

orals only are a no go bro...

 

[Only1eagle]

Agree with all the others. I know its hard to try and inj the first time around but if you can you will be much more pleased and your health will be much btter off.

 

[Big Burt]

What's HRT/TRT? Never heard of it. Where can I get info?

 

[digimon7068]

PCT is my oral

Cunnilingus is my oral.

Seriously though, listen to X and Macro. These guys know what they're talking about.

HRT is hormone replacement therapy and pretty much any guy over 40 qualifies.

 

[Mr.X]

What's HRT/TRT? Never heard of it. Where can I get info?

HRT = hormone replacement therapy (can be HGH , testosterone etc..)

TRT = testosterone replacement therapy (usually just test)

http://www.worldhealth.net/

 

[immortalis]

nothing but agreement here as well.

Orals, especially when you start putting those kinds of years behind ya, are hell on your liver.

Is there a particular reason you are against injecting?

Dbol will make you blow up quick, but it will all be mostly water weight and you will not retain much from it. I personally would recommend against it.

 

[krishna]

Orals only is a dumb choice. I'd rather do injectables only; in fact, that's all I'd ever do again with the exception of proviron.

 

[letsrun4it]

I just injected for the first time...I cannot stress how small of a deal it is... order your stuff from androusa.com get it 2 days later...read the sticky post #11 for newbies, it tells you everything you need to know.

It's safer and more effective.

 

[big_boy_1]

I'm a 44 year old man who want's to start using. Work out 4x a week, diet is great, plenty of sleep, yadda, yadda. I've just never used gear of any kind.

I'm 210 and 6'. Got a pretty good base and have been lifting for about 5 years consistently.

I want to know if there is an oral I can use that will give me the gains I'm looking for. I know the benefits of depot test, but would rather not inject. Is there a good oral that will help me gain muscle mass effectively?

I hear dbol is good.

Please let me know. Reply here or email me at

Thanks everybody.

Anavar + dianabol is the way to go.

Dianabol works mainly trough non-androgen receptor mechanisms, with poor receptor binding (Class II), you need to combine with one that works mainly trough androgen-receptor-mechanisms (Class I).

The only common Class I orals are:

* Winstrol (too harsh to the liver with dbol, causes sore joints)
* Halotestin (too far too harsh to the liver with dbol, causes sore joints)
* Primo tablets (weak and expensive).
* Anavar (moderately strong both in side effects and results, the way to go).

 

[immortalis]

I just injected for the first time...I cannot stress how small of a deal it is...
It's safer and more effective.

That's what im talkin about. Injections are honestly no big deal. I swear to god, pulling a nose hair is 500 times more uncomfortable to me than giving myself an injection.

On my first cycle, I really didnt think I had the goods to do it. I had a team mate of mine do the shots for me. For my second cycle... I didnt have anyone around to do it for me, so I sucked it up and did it myself. I was SO nervous the first time... it took quite a while before I finally slid that pin into my ass, lol. But once I did the first one I was like "Wow, that was easy as hell!"

Once you get the first one under your belt, you will see how much its NOT a big deal by any means.

And plus its much better on your body, simple.


Hope that helps!

 

[SlimJim300]

To emphasise how easy injecting is, I am considering running only injections for my future cycles just because I'm getting tired of the daily practice of popping pills. Of course I still have a good supply of dbol and var to use, and one day I want to try winny, but you get the point

 

[ur2insecure]

If worried about injecting try practicing on an orange or pop to your local butcher and get some pig skin and try that. Thats what some nurses do.

Or ask a close friend or your partner to do it for you, its not as bad as you think.

But id try to avoid the orals, but if you insist on orals try Dbol

 

[d_o_c_]

Tbol or Var.

 

[black sheep]

At your age Test will do wonders. Try 10 weeks of 500mg / week Test - You won't be disappointed.

 

[thelion2005]

I'm a 44 year old man who want's to start using. Work out 4x a week, diet is great, plenty of sleep, yadda, yadda. I've just never used gear of any kind.

I'm 210 and 6'. Got a pretty good base and have been lifting for about 5 years consistently.

I want to know if there is an oral I can use that will give me the gains I'm looking for. I know the benefits of depot test, but would rather not inject. Is there a good oral that will help me gain muscle mass effectively?

I hear dbol is good.

Please let me know. Reply here or email me at

Thanks everybody.

I hope you have read this:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=441371

 

[mr. snakes]

Big Burt:

Nothing wrong with a oral only cycle, alot of newbies do it. Dbol will give you the gains your looking for. My first cycle was Dbol 50mg for 8 wks, but i would recommend Dbol 20mg-25mgs 8 wks for you.