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Orals and Painful Back Pumps.

snorkles

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Hello forum, I am 21 years old and i would like to ask a simple question but before that i would like to talk about my experience.

I have been training for 4 years and this bulk I have used THE ONE Prohormone and the results where great. The gains were great and my lifts went really well. The main problem I had is that after the 3rd week I had very painful back pains which forced me to stop the cycle (which lasted for 5 weeks). and here comes the question:

I am interested in doing an oral cycle as my first aas cycle. I am being guided by a person who has been in the businees for about 10 years and like you guys here suggest, also tells me that it is better to combine oral with a test as a base. But being my first cycle I want to just try out an oral, which I read in these forums, STILL gives you results if followed by a good PCT. But my main concern are the painful back pains,as it is not worth it to buy all the gear and then just stop the cycle because of this.

I read that milk thistle and taurine helps but when i took taurine for THE ONE Prohormones for the last day the pain didn't go away and in fact continued for 3 days into my PCT,despite me taking taurine.

So,forum,which oral gives the best results but gives you less back pains or no back pains at all. I heard that d-bol gives the worst back pain, and I would like to know what T-bol does since it is the oral which I am most interested in taking.

Thanks for reading and helping out.
 
I'm doing a tbol/var cycle right now. I'm only a week in but i'm noticing 2 things right now.. well 3.
1. Muscles stay pumped/hard all day. Looks like i'm flexing when i'm not :D
2. Lifts are starting to go up.. My bench usually starts 1st set @ 175 and by the 3rd set i hit 5 or 6 @ 190. Yesterday i started at 185 ended with 205 THATS A NEW PR! :D
3. I can feel the cramps comming on any day. When i lie in bed i just feel em comming. Plowin the ol lady last night i was worried... Didn't catch one but its only a matter of time.
.... A side note. I had night sweats last night. Its quite cool in my house but winny did the same to me but much worse than this. I sweated my balls off on winny. Good luck man.
 
So basically both of you had / or about to have my problem. iS this a problem with all orals? I mean how do you people workout with this back pain ?
 
i tried to find it for you but was unable. i'll pm radar and see if we can get him in here. there is a certain brand of milk thistle that will fix the problem of back pumps.
 
thanks guys.never had instant help like this in any other forum


ef is a great place full of great info. i gave you a free 7 day plat so you could see the full features of the site.
 
It should say on the bottle, however all manufacturers Milk thistle doesn't work ,it depends on the concentration & purity never replace this with other liver protectors like liv52.

So If its not linburg i don't know some are 250mg per capsule,others are 750 per capsule.

RADAR
 
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Those don't even give the purity or extract concentration on them,all it says is 250mg

Good call,i saw that also,some supplement companies are rip offs, the brand i use (and i have used a bunch) says 80% standarized extract. NOT ALL SUPPLEMENTS ARE CREATED EQUAL.


RADAR
 
I bought a bunch of Linbergs milk thisle and it didn't do shit for my back pumps. Took a little, took a lot. Didn't do anything. The pumps were so bad I couldn't do deadlifts, rack pulls, or even squats.
 
I bought a bunch of Linbergs milk thisle and it didn't do shit for my back pumps. Took a little, took a lot. Didn't do anything. The pumps were so bad I couldn't do deadlifts, rack pulls, or even squats.

Thats the strange thing about it, not everyone responds to it, i did a test on members at my gym (6) members only one said it didn't help..go figure.

RADAR
 
Some of the members on my old post said it didn't work for others it was a god send.

RADAR
 
Guys ive got an update for those who are interested:

I am on day 2 of Milk thistle during my PH cycle.

Day 1 i took 1gram (4 pills of 250mg) and had back pumps for about 10mins during deadlifts that's all.

Today i upped the dose to 1.25 grams (5 pills of 250mg) and NO back pumps whatsoever during my arms workout.

Hope all goes well. But until now, the product is working.
 
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