oral vs injectible

[JLowe]

i know injectibles are more effective but to what extent?

 

[blut wump]

There are so many variables involved that you need to be a bit more specific.

 

[digimon7068]

i know injectibles are more effective but to what extent?

For starters, most injectables are a lot less harsh, particularly with regard to liver toxicity. Therefore, you can generally use a WHOLE LOT more. More juice = more muscle.

 

[Apexx]

More juice = more muscle.

Sometimes, more juice just equals more side effects.

You want to use the least amount possible in order to see gains. You don't need a cannon to kill a mesquito.

 

[slat1]

Sometimes, more juice just equals more side effects.

You want to use the least amount possible in order to see gains. You don't need a cannon to kill a mesquito.

EXACTLY!
The majority of you gains are from a proper bodybuilding diet, a proper routine, a good amount of sleep and educated AAS use.
AAS alone is not the answer. Its just a small part of the equation!

 

[digimon7068]

Sometimes, more juice just equals more side effects.

You want to use the least amount possible in order to see gains. You don't need a cannon to kill a mesquito.

Agreed. But wouldn't you also agree that mg-for-mg, 40mg per day of dbol (280mg per week) has more sides, is less effective (overall cycle, not just up front) and is more expensive than 500mg per week of sust or test-e??

 

[Apexx]

Agreed. But wouldn't you also agree that mg-for-mg, 40mg per day of dbol (280mg per week) has more sides, is less effective (overall cycle, not just up front) and is more expensive than 500mg per week of sust or test-e??

Not at all. Contrary to what a lot of people claim, a dbol only cycle can yeild quality results. If you take something to keep down the bloat and a liver protectant along with extra potassium, the sides are pretty minimal.
Plus muscle is muscle! It doesn't matter if it came from dbol, test, var, or naturally. It doesn't just go away like water weight.
Also, dbol is very inexpensive.

Now which would I prefer, test. However, that doesn't mean that dbol (if taken correctly) is necessarily an inferior choice.

 

[digimon7068]

Not at all. Contrary to what a lot of people claim, a dbol only cycle can yeild quality results. If you take something to keep down the bloat and a liver protectant along with extra potassium, the sides are pretty minimal.
Plus muscle is muscle! It doesn't matter if it came from dbol, test, var, or naturally. It doesn't just go away like water weight.
Also, dbol is very inexpensive.

Now which would I prefer, test. However, that doesn't mean that dbol (if taken correctly) is necessarily an inferior choice.

Actually, I like dbol only. Gonna do it for 6 weeks here in the near future. However, if you're paying 50 cents a tab (or there abouts. . .as many of us are) and using 40mg per day, the weekly price (.50 x 8 tabs x 7 days) is $28. Where as the weekly price for 500mg of omnadren (including pins, etc.) is only about $20. And, the end result (at least for me) is no comparison. Test wins. Plus, it's not as harsh on my system. I think it's safer and the results are more retainable.

 

[sweed]

no posting prices bro. and if you are paying that much, u getting ripped off.
i agree with all that Appex says, ( finally i get to ditto you! ,lol)

 

[digimon7068]

no posting prices bro. and if you are paying that much, u getting ripped off.
i agree with all that Appex says, ( finally i get to ditto you! ,lol)

Sorry. I was merely speaking in generalities. I'm a numbers guy, can't help myself sometimes. Won't happen again.

 

[Ross]

You can't say ORALS are more/less effective than injectables, or vice versa.

Orals half shorter HALF-lives, which confers the bodybuilder CERTAIN advantages.

Injectables have LONGER Half-lives (Except the Prop and undeconate esters..and suspension), which confers the bodybuilder other CERTAIN advantages.

They both have there use.

 

[Apexx]

LMAO

no posting prices bro. and if you are paying that much, u getting ripped off.
i agree with all that Appex says, ( finally i get to ditto you! ,lol)

 

[criffer]

Each persons reaction to different AAS (inj or oral)is going to be different, from my personal experience and what Ive read, you just have to really pinpoint what your goals are to decide on certain compounds (inj or orals or combo), then dial in the right dosages for YOU to get the best ratio of gains to side effects.....
BTW, the more I read and educate myself on here the more im convinced that PCT is key...rather make small gains and keep them , than blow up like a balloon for 6-8 weeks than shrink back down to nothing afterwards.....all IMO

 

[bigmann245]

i use both, they compliment each other. but orals are harsher on the liver than injectibles. but i take milk thistle as a precausion. but i do use both due to the fact that orals work quickly and injectibles take a few weeks to kick in.