Oral tren half life and cardio

[D-gunn]

Hey there im about to start a cycle

Week 1-4 M drol 30mg ed
Week 1-12 test c 500mg
Week 8-12 oral tren 500-750 mg ed
Week 14-18 clomid 50mg and nova 20mg ed

Taking liver support and multi vit threw out

Diet is in check with about 350 g of protein a day

Im 27 6 foot 2 240 pounds and about 15% bf....ive been lifting for 7 years on and off ive gained and lost 100 pounds 2 times!!!

My question is with the oral tren i read that it makes cardio alot harder to do while on it...
I plan on doing a 16 mile trail hike at about week 10 of the cycle... Because it has about a 6 hour half life.... If i dont take the oral tren the nite b4 and the day of the hike or wait to take it til, im back at camp will i still feel the negative effect it has on ur staminna during my long steep hike? Or will it have been clear out of my system till my next dose....will this effect my gains much if any?


Thanks!!!

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[Arabian]

If your going to do Tren for the results, then shoot it. I am against the tren tablets. Just FYI for your next cycle. Now, Tren is going to kill your stamina on cardio, and yes you are going to have difficulty with your steep hike. Tren is not for endurance or cardio training. Why not try Winny? just a thought for you. Best of luck to you sir.

 

[D-gunn]

I all ready have the tablets....so ill still feel it if i skip it the day b4?

Where are u from? Im from israel moved here when i was about 3

 

[Messor]

To be safe, you could stop taking it like 3 days before the hike.
If it were me, I'd take Ephedrine/caffeine on the day of the hike. Then resume the OT after recovering from the hike, whenever you're ready to return to the weights.

Just my opinion though...

 

[D-gunn]

To be safe, you could stop taking it like 3 days before the hike.
If it were me, I'd take Ephedrine/caffeine on the day of the hike. Then resume the OT after recovering from the hike, whenever you're ready to return to the weights.

Just my opinion though...

Do u know if 3 days off of it would have a major effect on my gains? Id most ikely be back at the weights just a day or 2 after the hike so thats no biggie

 

[Messor]

Today is my last day of a 6 week run of methyltrienolone. [ran it solo 750 mcg - 1mg per day] I'll let you know how my workouts go several days after stopping. In my past experience of using other orals, it's always taking weeks before I've noticed any decline in strength. The longer the cycle, the longer it's taken. I suspect it'll be the same with oral tren. You'll also still have the test cyp in your system, if I read your cycle and hiking timeline correctly. I'd be seriously surprised if you experienced any significant loss in gains in just 3 days. OT has been effective for workout strength and leaning out, but it's definitely not a feel good compound. I sure as hell wouldn't have wanted to have been on it while doing long distance speed marches when I was in the army years ago. I'm guessing those sides would be equally unpleasant during your steep hike, which is why I'd say give it at least 3 days.

 

[D-gunn]

Today is my last day of a 6 week run of methyltrienolone. [ran it solo 750 mcg - 1mg per day] I'll let you know how my workouts go several days after stopping. In my past experience of using other orals, it's always taking weeks before I've noticed any decline in strength. The longer the cycle, the longer it's taken. I suspect it'll be the same with oral tren. You'll also still have the test cyp in your system, if I read your cycle and hiking timeline correctly. I'd be seriously surprised if you experienced any significant loss in gains in just 3 days. OT has been effective for workout strength and leaning out, but it's definitely not a feel good compound. I sure as hell wouldn't have wanted to have been on it while doing long distance speed marches when I was in the army years ago. I'm guessing those sides would be equally unpleasant during your steep hike, which is why I'd say give it at least 3 days.

How was ur cycle?

i think its better for me to just delay my cycle for a few more weeks that way i start the ot the day i get back from the hike.... i wanted to see if i can get away with skipping a few days....after waiting for soo long for my package then getting it and not being able to sample it for a few more weeks... Oh the joys of being an adult lol jk


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[Messor]

How was ur cycle?

I was using it to cut, and liked the results. I got more lean muscle out of it than I was expecting, too. Was able to workout heavily and intensely on a big calorie/carb deficit. With such a diet combined with this toxic compound, there was plenty of lethargy but I was expecting it. If you work a regular day job, I would recommend not taking more than 250 mcg before work. Whenever I took more than that, I'd feel like the living dead at my job, so I would wait until after work to take the rest of the dosages. But then again, I wasn't taking test and was on a very low carb diet.

On arm day I usually do 5 sets of barbell curls before switching over to dumbell curls. By the time I got to the fifth set it was difficult to complete 10 reps, not because I was tired or my muscles were fatigued, but because the pumps were so intense that it was difficult to get a full range of motion. Also felt really strong on the negative motions. I definitely liked what I saw in the mirror while doing it.

Some comparisons to SD; My blood pressure was a bit more elevated on OT than SD but my joints didn't dry out as much as they would after 6 weeks of SD or a high Epi dosage. I usually get an increased sex drive on SD for the first few weeks. With OT, I seemed to lose interest in sex as soon as it kicked in about 10 days into it. So it was more suppressive than SD. Your body can overheat if you're not careful. I always had plenty of water on hand, even at my bedside.

OT is an individual thing. Some people like it, others say that they got nothing out of it. For what I wanted to do, I liked it. It is a harsh compound though.

 

[D-gunn]

I was using it to cut, and liked the results. I got more lean muscle out of it than I was expecting, too. Was able to workout heavily and intensely on a big calorie/carb deficit. With such a diet combined with this toxic compound, there was plenty of lethargy but I was expecting it. If you work a regular day job, I would recommend not taking more than 250 mcg before work. Whenever I took more than that, I'd feel like the living dead at my job, so I would wait until after work to take the rest of the dosages. But then again, I wasn't taking test and was on a very low carb diet.

On arm day I usually do 5 sets of barbell curls before switching over to dumbell curls. By the time I got to the fifth set it was difficult to complete 10 reps, not because I was tired or my muscles were fatigued, but because the pumps were so intense that it was difficult to get a full range of motion. Also felt really strong on the negative motions. I definitely liked what I saw in the mirror while doing it.

Some comparisons to SD; My blood pressure was a bit more elevated on OT than SD but my joints didn't dry out as much as they would after 6 weeks of SD or a high Epi dosage. I usually get an increased sex drive on SD for the first few weeks. With OT, I seemed to lose interest in sex as soon as it kicked in about 10 days into it. So it was more suppressive than SD. Your body can overheat if you're not careful. I always had plenty of water on hand, even at my bedside.

OT is an individual thing. Some people like it, others say that they got nothing out of it. For what I wanted to do, I liked it. It is a harsh compound though.

Right on... Thats kinda my goals....to lean out while on...is it smart / safe to switch diet plans mid cycle...as in eet a bulk diet while on test and sd but then switch to a cutting diet once i start with the tren?

I know alot of what i gail during a bulk will be water but i have some letro on hand also...ill be taking it e3d to keep things in check but not slow down my gains too much


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