Oral-only cycles for a newbie

[Mattblack]

hey guys,

Another newbie here (I know, loads of us).

I really need your help and advice because I've hit a wall in my training.

I've spent a few days researching steroids after a friend told me "they're not as bad as the media make out". I'm happy to know he was right, from what I've read.

But, he also told me I could run some short oral-only cycles to start with.

Looking online, I can't find any cycles that don't include injections. I simply cannot bring myself to inject at all, really I can't.

So, please can someone tell me if oral-only cycles really are A) unnecessarily harmful for you vs injections and B) If they are pointlessly ineffective for long/short term use?

To give a bit of info about me, I'm 26, been training on and off for about 10 years, of average height and build (not in body builder scales, just a normal, average bloke - 87kg). This year I've really worked very hard, lost 14kg of fat, work out 4-5 times a week... but just cannot get much more muscle mass (no matter how many books and websites I read, workout regimes I try, etc).

If oral-only cycles aren't as bad as some forum posters make out on the net, what would you advise to start with? I want something that has minimum impact on my health/liver and I'm not looking for giant increases... just a boost.

Thanks very much in advance for your assistance.

~Matt

 

[FLEX4USML]

First of all dont put shit in your body after "a few days of research",this is your body and life long health your dealing with and you olny get one.Secondly,yes orals have a much higher toxicity level than imjects because of the filter and delivery process(research it!)If you want to do a good mild beginners cycle w orals get you some dbol and do 30 mg a take for 6-8 weeks with proper diet and work you can see 10-15 lbs of gain witch ull retain 60% of.My advise is nut up and inject(after propper research)trust me if u dont have the stomach to do it yourself your girl would love nothing more than to jam a needle in your ass.

 

[C.K.]

I used to be terrified of needles my first 2 cycles (dbol only and oral tren) we're a waste because I didn't know about pct check out www.spotinjections.com have a buddy do it your first time and you'll be good to go it really only feels like a pinch...

 

[Juiced91]

First of all dont put shit in your body after "a few days of research",this is your body and life long health your dealing with and you olny get one.Secondly,yes orals have a much higher toxicity level than imjects because of the filter and delivery process(research it!)If you want to do a good mild beginners cycle w orals get you some dbol and do 30 mg a take for 6-8 weeks with proper diet and work you can see 10-15 lbs of gain witch ull retain 60% of.My advise is nut up and inject(after propper research)trust me if u dont have the stomach to do it yourself your girl would love nothing more than to jam a needle in your ass.

Or even some tbol but i agree with the above post. Also make sure ur diet is in check and ur getting all the necessary protein carbs fat and ur not still on that "cutting" diet. post up ur diet maybe we could help you out more

 

[Mattblack]

Thanks for the mega-prompt reply guys.

I'm not scared of needles, I have a real phobia. I pass out like a little girl (literally, I'm not exagerating). Last time the doc put a needle in my arm I woke up in a friend's arms who caught me as I blacked out lol. I felt like a right tool. The missus is no better either. I have some friends who are nurses and would do it, but I don't want to tell people I'm getting into this as I'll have to explain myself to everyone then.

I have done research this week and know about the pills affecting the liver, which is why I don't wanna take them. Though I read about taking supplements to help with the side effects of taking pills (Liv-50 was it called?).

I am kinda still in a fat-burning diet at the moment. I've had a hernia in my back so had to stop working out for a long time. I'm working hard to get all the fat off now. My BF% is about average for a normal guy, but I should get it lower before I take any roids.

I'm still in the research stage, weeks (if not months) away from beginning any program/cycle. I'm going to use the time wisely and hopefully tap into the wealth of knowledge here from you guys.

I also want to avoid any pills that will cause hair loss.

Thanks again so much.

Matt

 

[C.K.]

Wait till you get so much scar tissue build up you have to jab repeatedly hahaha but yeah read up on pct a lil hcgenerate is the bomb and you should be gtg

 

[Juiced91]

Liv-52. And you could also take stuff like propecia/finpecia which will prevent hairloss if you go read a thread here its called lets talk baldness and some people get sides from it luckily i dont. But yeah when you ready post up ur proposed cycle and people can critique it and help you out. There is a ton of knowledge here just read everything.. Cheers

 

[Mattblack]

Forgot to add more info about my diet, which might be why I'm not gaining any muscle. I just feel like I'm trying to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time and it's not working.

I don't have a particular diet, I just mix it up a bit. I basically live on fish, fruit, salads and cereals. Always take vitemins & minerals, protein and creatine supplements (n.o. xplode & cell mass).

Do the injections have to be in the muscle you want it to work in? Or would an injection in your arse work for your whole body? How deep does the injection have to go? The vids/pics I've seen look like an inch or longer!!

 

[Juiced91]

Yes you cant cut and bulk at the same time its either cut or bulk. And the injection in ur ass would be for the whole body and yes an inch is right.. And the diet you need to be eating meals 2-3 hours apart and make sure you know what ur goal is. cut or bulk, not both

 

[moya]

Forgot to add more info about my diet, which might be why I'm not gaining any muscle. I just feel like I'm trying to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time and it's not working.

I don't have a particular diet, I just mix it up a bit. I basically live on fish, fruit, salads and cereals. Always take vitemins & minerals, protein and creatine supplements (n.o. xplode & cell mass).

Do the injections have to be in the muscle you want it to work in? Or would an injection in your arse work for your whole body? How deep does the injection have to go? The vids/pics I've seen look like an inch or longer!!

you need to eat more to grow... i know you may want to burn fat, but this can still be accomplished by eating more, just clean foods...
cereal is the only carb you listed... you need more carbs to grow muscle... yams and brown rice should be everyday eats... and fish isnt the best at building muscle, chicken and even better- red meat is much better...
you need to plan out your meals in advance and keep track of what you are eating, that way you know what works and what dosnt... when to eat more when to eat less etc...