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TheProject
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Well, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that he's talking about PS Financials, and whatever the comparable product is from Oracle.
My .02 is that PeopleSoft is a giant pain in the ass to deal with.
My .02 is that PeopleSoft is a giant pain in the ass to deal with.
MarthaStewart
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For starters you are only putting up the company names and not the products which you are using.
That is like me saying that my company is thinking of switching to Price Waterhouse Coopers, but some of us really like Delloitte (sp?) and Touche.
What product/service of their's are you using?
And what the fuck are you asking? You have no question - you just listed statements.
That is like me saying that my company is thinking of switching to Price Waterhouse Coopers, but some of us really like Delloitte (sp?) and Touche.
What product/service of their's are you using?
And what the fuck are you asking? You have no question - you just listed statements.
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revexrevex
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lol @ martha
MarthaStewart
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I know that I really like Oracle's database, but I don't know shit about their financial products.
I know that a company I worked for in the past was better at large scale university system back ends than PeopleSoft was - but again, I know jack shit about their financial stuff.
That said, always ask on an internet forum that is largely known for fitness and steroid use whenever you want to know more about a many thousand dollar a year finance application that will be used for a company.
Whatever you do - don't look in newsgroups where people that use it everyday will be arguing either one's merits - that shit is just crazy.
I know that a company I worked for in the past was better at large scale university system back ends than PeopleSoft was - but again, I know jack shit about their financial stuff.
That said, always ask on an internet forum that is largely known for fitness and steroid use whenever you want to know more about a many thousand dollar a year finance application that will be used for a company.
Whatever you do - don't look in newsgroups where people that use it everyday will be arguing either one's merits - that shit is just crazy.
Ok let me clarify then..
I'm talking about Peoplesoft and Oracle ERP systems.. the whole shabang.. manufacturing module, billing, finance, everything.
Of course all of our DBs have been running on Oracle forever.
We currently use Peoplesoft.. one division uses Oracle... and we have a legacy ERP.. its a nightmare. We do a ton of customization to Peoplesoft as well..
I'm talking about Peoplesoft and Oracle ERP systems.. the whole shabang.. manufacturing module, billing, finance, everything.
Of course all of our DBs have been running on Oracle forever.
We currently use Peoplesoft.. one division uses Oracle... and we have a legacy ERP.. its a nightmare. We do a ton of customization to Peoplesoft as well..
AustinTX
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I'd go with Oracle Financials vs Peoplesoft. PS projects are notoriously over budget (time and $) and a pain to customize w/o too many developers. Oracle ERP is better, esp. now that they do XML, but not a cakewalk...
If you're already on an Oracle DB, you can negotiate fairly hard on the price of ERP, esp. if you already are using MRP too, and Oracle's pricing is much better than a couple of years ago.
LOL @ supernav. I'm assuming their DB and app servers will be on Unix, kind of a waste on anything else. Not much in the way of enterprise resource planning on SQL Server though.
If you're already on an Oracle DB, you can negotiate fairly hard on the price of ERP, esp. if you already are using MRP too, and Oracle's pricing is much better than a couple of years ago.
LOL @ supernav. I'm assuming their DB and app servers will be on Unix, kind of a waste on anything else. Not much in the way of enterprise resource planning on SQL Server though.
SuperNav –
dude, you knock on Oracle? You must have had some true uneducated, untrained losers for DBA’s. Oracle is like Unix, if you don’t set it up properly and don’t know how to use it – it sucks.
Lestat-
I’m surprised that your company isn’t even considering SAP the industry leader in ERP programs.
Oracle Financials, People soft and SAP can run off of an Oracle database. Oracle as a database can NOT be beaten. Get competent TRAINED people for your DBA’s and MS SQL Server will be still be loading up when a mass update in Oracle has finished and had time to execute a 30+ table multiple outer-join select. Now if your database has less than a million records you could use SQL Server or MS Access to do the job, that or a pencil and eraser and it would be done at the same time.
Customization with PeopleSoft is a necessity, when/if you upgrade DO NOT use the PeopleSoft upgrade lab. They have a huge problem with highly customized apps and only give you a short time to tell them how to handle it, if you don’t tell them what to do they decide for you.
As with any ERP there are pros and cons to each. PeopleSoft’s version 8+ is entirely online and is currently adding instant messaging to it’s toolbox, not to mention full self service and the advantages of being a fully web based front end (ver 8). The arguments between server side and client side is making a roundabout again.
The problem for your company is that there is NO direct migration path from version 7 (which sucks really, really bad by the way) to version 8+. You are going to pay. But will that expense be more than a full implementation of Oracle Financials?
This is all moot depending on what Ellison does next on his bid to buy peoplesoft. If successful then anyone running it against DB2 or SQL Server is in for a BIG surprise.
As for your conferences Oracle likes to hold them in Hawaii and PeopleSoft moves them around, so if you get to go then… easy choice
dude, you knock on Oracle? You must have had some true uneducated, untrained losers for DBA’s. Oracle is like Unix, if you don’t set it up properly and don’t know how to use it – it sucks.
Lestat-
I’m surprised that your company isn’t even considering SAP the industry leader in ERP programs.
Oracle Financials, People soft and SAP can run off of an Oracle database. Oracle as a database can NOT be beaten. Get competent TRAINED people for your DBA’s and MS SQL Server will be still be loading up when a mass update in Oracle has finished and had time to execute a 30+ table multiple outer-join select. Now if your database has less than a million records you could use SQL Server or MS Access to do the job, that or a pencil and eraser and it would be done at the same time.
Customization with PeopleSoft is a necessity, when/if you upgrade DO NOT use the PeopleSoft upgrade lab. They have a huge problem with highly customized apps and only give you a short time to tell them how to handle it, if you don’t tell them what to do they decide for you.
As with any ERP there are pros and cons to each. PeopleSoft’s version 8+ is entirely online and is currently adding instant messaging to it’s toolbox, not to mention full self service and the advantages of being a fully web based front end (ver 8). The arguments between server side and client side is making a roundabout again.
The problem for your company is that there is NO direct migration path from version 7 (which sucks really, really bad by the way) to version 8+. You are going to pay. But will that expense be more than a full implementation of Oracle Financials?
This is all moot depending on what Ellison does next on his bid to buy peoplesoft. If successful then anyone running it against DB2 or SQL Server is in for a BIG surprise.
As for your conferences Oracle likes to hold them in Hawaii and PeopleSoft moves them around, so if you get to go then… easy choice
the nature boy
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how come you guys havent considered SAP? they're the market leaders.
Lestat said:
oh yeah, your question. Oracle ERP comes with GUI frontends similiar to peoplesoft... only better. Don't picture your SQL prompt, think of a program like people soft.
Stangfriik
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We use the ERP system and we're one of the top 10 largest software company's in the world if that says anything
As far as reporting goes, I would rather the company go Oracle.
Why?
Oracle Discoverer sucks and their financial reporting is weak.
Why do I like this?
I develop reports on top of ERPs using other 3rd party software, PLSQL, SQR, etc. It would mean some good work for me and my teams.
Why?
Oracle Discoverer sucks and their financial reporting is weak.
Why do I like this?
I develop reports on top of ERPs using other 3rd party software, PLSQL, SQR, etc. It would mean some good work for me and my teams.
SAP - It's an programmed overaly onto an oracle database system with an reporting language called ABAP/4.
You could develop and ABAP/4 cult and no one will really know that it is just a gussied up SQL because its called ABAP.
Plus its Germany's revenge for our kicking there ass in WWII.
You could develop and ABAP/4 cult and no one will really know that it is just a gussied up SQL because its called ABAP.
Plus its Germany's revenge for our kicking there ass in WWII.
hellorhih2o
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what does it matter, they'll be the same company shortly and their new product updates will eventually merge...
Stangfriik said:
What ERP? What Company?
Stangfriik
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CipherLock said:
What ERP? Not sure really. I know our internal guys created a Java based GUI that runs off of the Oracle ERP system. I know we're on Oracle 11 right now but that's about it. I am part of tech support, so we access some or oracle for verification of support and billing but no farther than that. As for company, I'm not too sure if I feel comfortable saying that. I'll think about it though.
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