opinions on one long cycle

[cranny]

Was considering a 20 weeker.
1-20 test e @ 700/wk.
1-10 deca @ 400/wk.
1-4 tbol @50/day
16-20 tbol @50/day
HCG toward end of cycle
nolvadex for PCT
Shitty idea? Would like your thoughts. I've tried bulking, then time off, then cutting after that. I'm sure my diet had alot to do w/ it but damn I lost alot b/n cycles. I felt like my calories were up and was consistant w/ training. So this 20 weeker is the lastest greatest idea. I figured hit it hard this winter and then cut around late spring ending around the first on June. Let that be it for the year. Could I be setting myself up for a bad crash and recovery?
Stats:
36 yrs old
5'-9 1/2"
190 lbs.
3 cycles to date
been training for approx. 12 yrs.
13-15% BF at the moment

 

[anal itch]

Throw some HCG in around week 6 then again at week 13. Do around 500iu's ED for 10 days each time. That should help with your PCT at week 22.

 

[muscleup]

I love long cycles........ I Usually go for 24 weekers.....you will be fine.

 

[tzan]

Here's my next planned:

wks 1-4 50mg tbol
wks 8-12 50mg tbol
wks 16-20 50mg tbol
wks 1-18 500mg test e
wks 1-18 600mg eq

This will be my first cycle longer than 12 weeks. I always run an oral(var, tbol, etc..) two weeks past the longer acting compounds, then immediatly go into pct. I suggest eitther cutting the test back to 18 wks and keeping the tbol where it is or keeping the test where it is and running the tbol wks 18-22.

 

[cranny]

This will be my first cycle longer than 12 weeks. I always run an oral(var, tbol, etc..) two weeks past the longer acting compounds, then immediatly go into pct. I suggest eitther cutting the test back to 18 wks and keeping the tbol where it is or keeping the test where it is and running the tbol wks 18-22.

Interesting. Why the orals longer than the test?

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Was considering a 20 weeker.
1-20 test e @ 700/wk.
1-10 deca @ 400/wk.
1-4 tbol @50/day
16-20 tbol @50/day
HCG toward end of cycle
nolvadex for PCT
Shitty idea? Would like your thoughts. I've tried bulking, then time off, then cutting after that. I'm sure my diet had alot to do w/ it but damn I lost alot b/n cycles. I felt like my calories were up and was consistant w/ training. So this 20 weeker is the lastest greatest idea. I figured hit it hard this winter and then cut around late spring ending around the first on June. Let that be it for the year. Could I be setting myself up for a bad crash and recovery?
Stats:
36 yrs old
5'-9 1/2"
190 lbs.
3 cycles to date
been training for approx. 12 yrs.
13-15% BF at the moment

enjoy

 

[bilter]

Interesting. Why the orals longer than the test?

orals longer that the test due to the short half life of orals. theory being you can start your pct the day after your last intake of orals. if still on the test you would have to wait a week to 10 days depending on the ester. Are you planning on having any blood work done during this extended cycle? just curious. I would be interested in the results

 

[tzan]

orals longer that the test due to the short half life of orals. theory being you can start your pct the day after your last intake of orals.

He pretty much summed it up for me right there. Ideally you want to go into pct when everything is at the same point.

 

[krishna]

I would go with EQ instead and run it for 20 weeks alongside the test.

 

[boops]

I would go with EQ instead and run it for 20 weeks alongside the test.

always a good choice and pretty simple....after alot of thought i have decided 2 compounds will be it MAX if i decide to get back on at some point...

 

[cranny]

Krishna, bro I've run EQ along w/ test and didn't notice any difference than a test only cycle. It was 600/wk. for 13 wks. I was slightly more vascular but I think that was due to my diet. I guess everyone is dif. Have you ran cycles 20 or more wks?