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one dumbass article

I think the points about the Olympics are valid. I would like to see PLing as an Oly sport with only a belt and wraps. Would be very interesting to watch.
 
Cuthbert said:
I think the points about the Olympics are valid. I would like to see PLing as an Oly sport with only a belt and wraps. Would be very interesting to watch.
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ok..just on that point i do agree with...but the other shit it talks about is just dumb!! tb
 
The different gear and the different rules make it all so confusing :confused:

It would be nice to have a standard that everyone could agree on.
 
thebrute said:


ok..just on that point i do agree with...but the other shit it talks about is just dumb!! tb
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I agree brute. The rest of the article was pretty pointless and crap everybody has heard before.
 
I'm not sure I understand why you think it's such a bad article. What do you disagree with?
 
I think the only problem would be what is considered an overhead press, i.e. could you jerk it? Or would no leg drive be allowed? I guess making it seated would eliminate that factor.
 
Debaser said:
I think the only problem would be what is considered an overhead press, i.e. could you jerk it? Or would no leg drive be allowed? I guess making it seated would eliminate that factor.
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Just like strongman: get it up by any means necessary.
 
Mike_Rojas said:


Would that include a clean, or could you take the weight off a rack?
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that is a good call; i would say rack, just like the bench press, we need to stay true to powerlifting somehow :)
 
Then it would pretty much just be a jerk, which the olympics already has covered :)
 
Mike_Rojas said:
The different gear and the different rules make it all so confusing :confused:

It would be nice to have a standard that everyone could agree on.
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this is true but as long as their is so many PL orgs and different views, i don't think everyone will get to a point where they'll agree on the same shit. sad though too!! :bawling: tb
 
thebrute said:


see the first five posts.....tb
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Hmm...all the posts seem to be in agreement over the article except for

I agree brute. The rest of the article was pretty pointless and crap everybody has heard before.
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Just because some of us have heard it before doesn't make the article crap. If Dave Tate rehashed the finer points of squat technique, would we say it's a bad article because everybody has heard it before? I thought it was an interesting read, and I can't say I disagree with any of the points.
 
Debaser said:


Hmm...all the posts seem to be in agreement over the article except for



Just because some of us have heard it before doesn't make the article crap. If Dave Tate rehashed the finer points of squat technique, would we say it's a bad article because everybody has heard it before? I thought it was an interesting read, and I can't say I disagree with any of the points.
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i figure you would agree with an article such as this...but that's a different view. here's mine, i have no issue of the fact of gettin PL in to the olypmics RAW & clean, although raw lifting is rough on the joints. but the point that i'm arguing about is the writer not accepting what powerlifting is..which makes his points "pointless". he says that the big 3 should be bench, deadlift and leg press...come the fuck on!! and the suggestion that powerlifting should be to three organizations like the USAPL(which xtremely strict), USPF(which i deal with) and AAU would suggest "policitial free" is naive. those three orgs WILL have issues comin together because of the rules/regulations each represent and one is not going to give one for the other. the equipment issues...please don't get me started on that..if your a powerlifter..then you know what the dilly is on that issue...equipment is here to stay..deal with it(not to you). yes..it will make you strong and safe..i do agree with that. i mean..come on...no org would allow triple-layer gear...its illegal. he's trying to make a point on something he obviously has no clue about. and his "doomed" attitude about the sport really sucks..but that's his opinion. powerlifting is starting to get some credit now so his issue on that is pointless as well. and lastly, sandbaggin garry frank because he used equipment to go past 2500 in my opinion is doing what he has to do to do it..that's it!! to me..he and eddy coan are on a completely different level and if eddy coan beats garry franks' total just as he did with 2500..mad props to him. no hatin here!! but don't take anything away from frank...he's a powerlifter just like coan..no difference at all. now, this is just my say about it and its coming from someone who is knee deep in the sport. oh and about cuthbert saying that the points in the article have been heard before..you have to be a powerlifter to understand the issues he's harping about have been "rehashed" in previous articles before his and makes the article an "eye-sore" for a powerlifter. i've seen articles like his in the past about the orgs, equipment and lifters and its tedious. this is what cuthbert meant by that. tb
 
its the same reason bodybuilding will never be in the olympics..... hell the oly committee has told joe weider that they can be in the olympics, just clean up the contest,

which joe wont do......... why??? becuase people would be confused if ronnie, jay, gunter, kevin and company, suddenly dropped 50lbs between contest.........

i have always thought that a powerlifting contest should have a 2nd pressing event. and overhead one. standing, no leg drive.

the reason, becuase you have to start with the bar in the bottom position, just like the deadlift. so the bench would be to the squat, what the standing strict press would be to the deadlift.

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thebrute said:
i figure you would agree with an article such as this...but that's a different view.
There's no need to figure anything. There is such a thing as simple disagreement--no reason to make it personal.

he says that the big 3 should be bench, deadlift and leg press...come the fuck on!!

I think you ENTIRELY misunderstood his point--maybe you should read the blurb about Ed Coan again

you have to be a powerlifter to understand the issues he's harping about have been "rehashed" in previous articles before his and makes the article an "eye-sore" for a powerlifter.

It's not his business to create new material. He wrote an opinion piece. He doesn't have to cater to you, and perhaps there might be many others who HADN'T heard his points before? Also, how do you know that many of the articles that you've read weren't rehashing what THIS guy said?
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PolishHammer1977 said:
how about a gearless competition?

any takers?
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Id compete if I didnt have to learn the bench shirt and other equipment, or have to pause on the bench. But Im not much about competition anyway. Im not one for following other's set rules. I compete with myself. I respect those who compete and put themselves out there though, That takes alot!
 
Overall Id say the article is shit IMO. Seems like its written just to bash powerlifting, without any solid basis. The concept of PLing interests me greatly, even trying the various equipment, but competing is something I dont really have a worthy reason to do. What would be my purpose in obtaining a trophy? Confidence is something I can obtain thru lifting in a gym and getting strong without going on a stage. If I were to compete though Id compete in PLing over BBIng any day.
 
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