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once you read this it may change your mind about vials, cancer, dan duchaine toxicity article

georgie24

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%99 of multiuse vials in market at this time are UG regardles of what lable says as anyone can import oils or raw materials and rebottle vials with $200 investment, with nice lable it can be pased on as human grade but the downside is :

UG produced in normal room so pyrogens , dust mites and contaminant are inside vial already regardless how carefully filtered or boiled your vials afterward , killing bacteria will not remove its pyrogen , strelity is more the filtering and adding BA so even on pharmacy multiuse ones , after first use ur vial nolonger sterile as you must inject air into vial to draw the oil out each time , out side air contain germs and contaminant and various pyrogens , dust etc

thats why most human use injs come in ampouls , one time use units lessen chance of contamination

multi use vials only meant for hospitals or animal farms where subjects lined up to get shot so they go through vial quikly before germs get chance to grow

the rubber in vials are magnet to germs as its porous -pours means small microscopic holes thats germs seek refugee

its common practice to load up ug vials with BB or BA to stop the germs

but BB/BA desolve the rubber both in vial and plunger , just add a drop of BA or BB to stoper and see it melts , then you inject that into your body , used often body infected with silicon ruber result in cancer in long run , nore kiling bacteria remove thier pyrogens

regardless of what powder factories asay tells you purity on ug powders/oils is often %97 or below so not safe for human use

noone knows what the rest of %3 is , its common for raw material used to make ug oil smell like acetone or other chemicals , colours of every batch vary while they show you same good assay

after all your source paid $**k for raw materials ,would he throw it away ? its like there is any other option to source better ones or he can order his powders from europe ? besides everyone else useing same powers as his , so answer is : it end up going into your body regardless of purity , even if its %90 it goes into ur body and you think its real pharmacy stuff too because lable dsays so

how about testing ? guys just test for steroid , if tested to contain correct steroid then its good and goes into your body regardles of it contain harmful impurities, noone cares what impurities in there so never test for .. and even impurities detected still it go into your body

what about powder factory assay ? often powders suppliers assay is not to that batch or barrowed so allways show good ! even when each batch visually look and smell different ! still you get same good assay !

Compare to ampouls made according GMP have to use %99.9 purity reprocessed purified material thats cost lot more and takes months to get preped , tested , produced)

ampoule are free of pyrogens and air , germs dont grow where there is no air also 600 degree heat to melt the glass kill them , this done in sterile room in multi milion dollar facility as one can not make amps in his apartment like multiuse vials , try making one amp in basement then you know the difference beween a vial and amp

compare to 10ml rebottled with air inside already , and you injecting more of contaminant such as dust and pyrogens each time into it and back into your body ,loaded with BA so you inject silicon rubber into your body each time and God know what impurites the raw material had to begin with

bigger vial means you stick needle in out more so is chance of contamination , but guys think injectables are like a pepsi bottle , bigger ones are better deal !

min run to make amps is 100,000 amps per type so its big investment, so a full line need a half a milion dollar compare to multi use vial anyone can rebottle and lable with $200 equipment , one can not do same with amp so if you want to make sure its not ug get amps ..

we have nothing against bulk oils and offer it too and thats what %99 of guys injecting in thier body anyways and that will only increase as customs and law geting more restrict daily , but beware there is huge difference in safety and nice lables can not turn ug to human grade

================================ hard truth about BA/BB that all UG stuff contain :


4 of our customers diagnosed with cancer , one is a IFBB and my friend , cancer ended his career

thier doctors all diagnosed same thing :

thier body infected with rubber from syrenge plunger and vial stopper which desolved by BB/BA

just add few DROPS of %3 BB + %15 BA you recomanding on plunger rubber and leave it for a short while and see it get stuck ,take rubber out and inpect it , you see it desolved ,then you inject that rubber into your body day after day , week after week

thier doctor all said same thing : that lead to cancer and there is no cure for it

maybe thats why according to FDA max safe limit for either or combined BB/BA is only %1 ,any higher do not exist as medicine aproved for injection to human body

we used to make up to 400 mg oils with BB/BA before anyone else but the stuff killing my friends , i can not do this again to anyone ,test our oil , its free of BB and BA

all UG useing BB and BA , they either dont know or dont care ,we only use Paraben / methyl paraben to strelize the bulk oil ,paraben is like salt crystals so its not a solvant like BA so can not bring up the dose

because of all this we invested $***k to produce human grade ampouls , i sell them as low as $* per amp so more guys use human grade

Cyp needs BA to get even close to 200mg , guys want higher dose will end up rubber injected into thier body ,same goes for many other steroids ...

enanthate same as cyp in real life and dont need cancer causing solvants , so i removed cyp from site

as for tren go , few of my guys kiney failed on tren , kidney do not regenerate like liver so there is no cure

Dan duchaine died because of tren , he choose death rather then going through painfull daily dialysis for rest of his life , dialysis is machine with 2 hoses and 2 huge nail size needle into your sides , then all your blood go into machine to be cleaned , the huge daily IV needle pain and hours it take and get infections after a while with all the hosses and needles going in and out , thats your life to be atached to machine ,if rich you buy machine and keep with you , if not you move near hospital and hope you have good insurance , thats what they tell me ..

tren is worlds most toxic steroid , its not like test which you can inject 1000 mg and only get water ,tren will kill your kidney , thats why it designed to be used at low doses only , if you need more efects from tren stack it with winy or test

steroids can kill you directly like tren or indirectly through all the rubber you injecting into your body

also tren needs BA to go over 75 mg so you get kidney poisen and cancer in one bottle , you want to see emails of MY CUSTOMER with Failed liver

now we only make oils without BB/BA , that limits dose , it may crystalize and crush in cold but i will not cause cancer we use paraben as preservative , know what BA/BB did to guys

guys asking for high dose short acting steroids , like high dose prop or tren acetate

with short acting ones you must inject it daily regardless its 50 mg or 200 mg so what is the point of adding cancer causing solvants ? ,

guys say ug stuff better and dosed higher , have you seen how much is 500 mg ? its tea spoon of powder , now have you seen how big is 1ml of oil ? ,that much powder dont desolve in 1ml of oil unless cancer causeing BA /BB added ,its been said pain caused by alchohls Ba but thats not only cause , too much powder and not enough oil so it crystalize in your ars , powder are tiny crystals which are sharp object and oil gone so turn to a knott in ars cause pain , .. so after first batch they hear complaints and water it down but that 500 mg lable stays so you be sucker .. first batch tested high so sales not efected but at the end you are sucker , guys crying in pain dont help sales.. as for test anything over 285 mg is asking for it so we dont .. tren , primo etc all have low solibility below 100 mg .. we dont use cancer causing alchohls and no superdose cancer bottles

we aproched chinese pharmacuetical companies for human grade amps , suprised at what they told us , the powers in china are not fit for human use ! only 2 powers were ,prop and nandrolone phen-prop , only because they already made for this perpose as there been already huuman grade prop amps in human grade produced in china for human use , only in 50 and 25 mg dose ..the rest of powders were not fit ! new batches of powders and purification process had to be employed to produce our amps so we paying lot higher for raw material , same none-fit powders in use for all ug .. ..

we see so many misinformation on boards ,with any substance that has been creminalized there is rumors and lies spread on boards , take it with a grain of salt , the truth missings is health problems caused by steroid creminalization : users forced to use unstrelized homebrewed and UG products made of chinese raw material which are not up to pharmacuetical standards to begin with , heavy metals , oil soluble impurites that can not be filtered , unconverted intermidiates and other chemicals used in various stages of synthesis still there , guys just add BB and call it sterile , you see EQ from china thin and smell like acetone with as low as %70 purity with thier fake Assay which not from same batch they selling , the ones we used to get 10 years ago from italy was thick as honey and didnt even needed filtering with true %99.7 purity , due to tightening regulations it become impossible to get european raw material,athelites forced to use short acting orals to clear doping tests , the very law to save health did the oposite.
 
georgie24 said:
pretty scary that it actuallt makes sense, ive gone thru alot of vials in my time
yea that part makes sense ... I have seen it first hand... 6 years ago I used some rsoc gear i loaded all the syringes and put them in abag to travel with on vacation..

I came home and started using from the vials again .. A year i was going on vacation agian I looked inside and found one syringe still full with 2 cc in it....

i was shocked to see it was tuning black and had swirls of black silicon from the stopper mixed in with the oil.. It was disgusting site

I keep all my vial straight up during storage becuase I read something like this years ago about the rubber...but even then trace amounts still dissolve of the stopper each injection...
 
now with the introduction of ethyl oleate wich is a stronger solvent id keep an eye on the vials and syrenges much closer!

i hear within a week the pluger swells with EO

i have a few vials of cyp laying around too, im about to make sure none of them are on its side and they are all upright
 
soo.. um... ya human grade might sound a little better to me now.. why arent more body builders comin down with cancer though.. multiuse vials have been around forever.. everyones using human grade in the pros or what
 
Re: once you read this it may change your mind about vials, cancer, dan duchaine toxi

well this is all fine and dandy, but it doesn't really or prove anything conclusively. No sources are sited, many spelling/grammatical errors, some other silly logical inconsistencies. These all make me question the validity of the argument.

I'll do as the article recommends...take it for a grain of salt.
 
How does the bb/ba cause cancer? They have said efore that cell phones cause brain tumors. alot of these studies go in with an idea of what they want the outcome to be. I find a lot of studies like this to be questionable.
 
this is just a pro human grade rant...
oh now i get it, so this is why HG gear is so expensive, they are trying to help us stay healthy and not get cancer, :rolleyes: so they figure we'll go the extra dollar to live longer and not get sick by using their anabolics filled in amps...

:lmao:
 
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