Once and for all - What is the best testosterone drug?

[Nelson Montana]

Good post IJ. However, I feel you're missing one very important point. You mention the impotance of having "even " levels of testosterone, but that is never really the case. Every time you take a shot, blood levels rise dramatically. Within days, it drops dramatically. So the best way to get "even" blood levels would be to take a small amount serveral times a day. Of course, this isn't practical. But that's essentially what sus does. It provides a more "even" release. When cyp drops down after 5 days, sus is still pretty even. So I manintain, that sus is superior, exactly for the reasons you are espousing.

 

[Immortal Juicer]

Good post IJ. However, I feel you're missing one very important point. You mention the impotance of having "even " levels of testosterone, but that is never really the case. Every time you take a shot, blood levels rise dramatically. Within days, it drops dramatically. So the best way to get "even" blood levels would be to take a small amount serveral times a day. Of course, this isn't practical. But that's essentially what sus does. It provides a more "even" release. When cyp drops down after 5 days, sus is still pretty even. So I manintain, that sus is superior, exactly for the reasons you are espousing.

The fast acting esters in Sus do provide a slightly higher initial peak the first day, but then Enanthate takes over as king test from day 5-25, at which they both pretty much leave your system evenly the last 7-10 days. Right on schedule for the next shot

According to the graph, Sus and Enanthate provide essentially the same amount of steady test levels.

ICN is still the king in my book. But comparing it to Sustanon isnt really fair since each ICN amp has about 1 and 1/3cc in it

Damn those overfilled amps.

 

[little chris]

Test is test the only real difference is that some tests are a little more painful to inject than others, i.e prop, sust and some tests aromatize a little stronger than others.

 

[blingbling211]

Chris I am gonna have to respectfully disagree with you.. Theres a very noticable difference in differents tests. For example, if I ran 500mg of sustanon for 8 weeks and 500mg of test suspension for 8 weeks, the results would be QUITE different. According to your theory, both tests would ellicit the same results which is not the case. just my 2 ccs.

 

[little chris]

Ok 211 there is difference but all be it a small one, like I said some tests (depending upon the person) aromatize alittle different. Suspension and prop have been considered the better or at least more popular tests to use if your gonna use a test during a cutting cycle. This is not to say people won't use enth or sust to cut but for some reason susp and prop don't aromatize as much as enth or cyp do and I'm sure more people will tell you that prop, susp, and sust are for some reason more painful to inject than cyp or enth are. Bottom line is that unless you are a serious bodybuilder and are competing at a high level most people taking a test get pretty much the same results. My partner (training partner) used sust and he put on good size but his ass was killing him so he switched to testoviron depot and put on close to the same amount of size as did he when he later used cyp, his exact words were " They all work great for me but from now on its testoviron or cyp cause sust hurts too much." I respect your opinion but there is very little difference in the results that tests produce.

 

[blingbling211]

I respect yours as well.. but the guys I have seen use test suspension at the gym and what many have said on here is that they put on quite a bit more water retention and fat with suspension.. on the other hand, sustanon usually makes one hold less water, at least it did for me anyways... but at any rate, all tests have their pros and cons and like you said, the avg. joe would be happy with any real testosterone no matter the ester.

 

[little chris]

I agree maybe it justs depends on the person taking it,their age,, and the dosage we should be takin into consideration on this topic and I think then we could evaluate what that person may achieve.

 

[little chris]

Oh and not to mention their diet and training program.

 

[HULKSTER]

T-250 from Jeff Summers at anabolics store.com You get just as much quality test as from sust, but it has a delivery system that makes it legal in the U.S. Also, due to an oversight they discovered and corrected, this oral test tablet is NON-TOXIC to the level. All you do is place the tab under your tongue and let it dissolve.

 

[Mad Max]

Mike- did you ever here "if it sounds to good to be true it probably is" well I think that applies to what your talking about. Unless its your product I don't know why your promoting it. If anything is as potent as injecting test that only has to be swallowed and isn't toxic come on we must not respect us to think we believe this.
---PEACE---Mad Max