on first cycle what to do?

[musclestang]

i have the d-bol but not sure on what to take, deca or test?

also i dont know on how i should pyramid it and when to take clomid. i am 5-11" 190lbs.

thanks in advance.

 

[Prune Taker]

Classic first cycle:

D-bol: 30-50 mg/day for 3 or 4 weeks.

Test: 500 ml/week for 8 to 10 weeks.

Deca: 400 ml/week for 8 to 10 weeks.

Start clomid two weeks after last injection.

 

[musclestang]

would it better to pyramid or to take a constant mg a day? also when is the appropriate time for taking and how much. is it also good to take creatine?

 

[TxRugby_8]

sustanon would be good base with dbol if you just want to pick test or deca

 

[swoldier]

Go ahead and take dbol and deca. The two D's combination is one of the best you can take. I would recommend a pyramid stack. But keep the dbol constant. Change the deca every week to a different dosage

 

[Axe]

would it better to pyramid or to take a constant mg a day? also when is the appropriate time for taking and how much. is it also good to take creatine?

You should run a constant dosage throughout. Doing a pyramid is old school. In terms of your timing of your post cycle therapy (clomid) it depends on what type of test you are taking. I personally think that you should run no more that 1/2gram of gear per wk as a first cycle. I do not know your stats or experience so it is tough to give a real good answer.

Do a search under the name REALGAINS and newbie cycles. He has a great thread with some examples and reasons behind them. Good Luck!

 

[2new4juice]

Do a search under the name REALGAINS and newbie cycles. He has a great thread with some examples and reasons behind them. Good Luck!

yea its a sticky at the top of this page. lots of great information.

REALGAINS ROCKS!!!!!

 

[buffdawg10]

As a first cycle I would recommend this:

D-bol; 25-30mgs/ED Weeks 1-5

Test Enan 400mgs./Week Weeks 1-12

Eq 500mgs./Week Weeks 1-12

Post Cycle: Hcg 500iu's ED for 2weeks after last shot, then start clomid cycle.

 

[CanadianBro]

As a first cycle I would recommend this:

D-bol; 25-30mgs/ED Weeks 1-5

Test Enan 400mgs./Week Weeks 1-12

Eq 500mgs./Week Weeks 1-12

Post Cycle: Hcg 500iu's ED for 2weeks after last shot, then start clomid cycle.

IMHO, this is way too much gear for a first cycle.
Why is this board so famous for these HUGE cycles for newbies?

Anyone that is recommending to stack anabolics as a first cycle has been on gear WAY TOO long to remember how it was to be a newbie.

RealGains has a GREAT thread on "Cycles for Newbies" which will illustrate the types of first cycles that newbies should use.


If you already have the DBol, use 10-20mgs/day for the first 3-4 and add 250-500mg Sustanon per week (1-2 amps per week) for weeks 1-8.

Take Arimidex/Liquidex 1mg/EOD if you are concerned about Gyno, Water Bloat of both.


A newbie will EASILY gain 15-20 pounds of Lean Muscle on this type of a cycle and with proper post-cycle therapy, can keep up to 90% of it.


Let's not get ahead of ourselves and start recommending a gram of gear per week for newbies. That is simply insane!

 

[Texas Ranger]

Now, you just got some good advice!!

 

[icelandic]

I'd skip the dbol if your a newbie, but you already got it.... Something mild like 400mg of test and 400mg of eq will blow you up if you hit the gym and the dinner table hard.

 

[musclestang]

thanks

thanks for the reply guys real helpful!!

 

[65_High]

Since it's your first stack, you don't need to be very heavy with the gear. If I were you, I would use:

weeks 1 - 6: dbol @ 30mg/day
weeks 1 - 10: enanthate or cypionate (to help with any deca-dick)
weeks 1 - 10: deca @ 400mg/week
weeks 1 - 10: liquidex @ 1mg eod

with proper nutrition, training, and sleep, you can have a great first-cycle. Just remember your post-cycle clomid therapy. Deca tends to shut down some bro's pretty hard.

 

[Leite]

Newbie listen up

This is your first cycle, so try just taking test @ 400 to 500mgs per week split the doses. take this for 10 weeks nomore noless, also 30mgs a day for the first 4 weeks would be great to kick start the test. Now with this small cycle you can adjust your next cycle accordingly,because you know how certain drugs can effect you. D-bol for short term you can see how you feel, and when the test kicks in you know a different feel cause the dbol will be out of your system in 24hrs. Start low and slow you will grow. And you better have your post recovery ready and waiting