OMEGA teach me more

[HighIntensity]

bout gear. Now some might say take it 2 the Anobolics boards...but im just haveing a simple chat and conversation...

now lets say I want to hit a cycle...but am afraid of SIDE EFFECTS

is deca my best bet...or maybe HGH even though its $$$

right now after dropping some weight due to a depressed state im 5'10 180 with bout 6' percent bf...

ill hit gear or GH in Jan...by then ill be up to 190 ripped...

I want to keep my Mens Health look and just add some size to it without large amounts of water weight,,,

any sugg. perhaps winny...

 

[OMEGA]

i am working on it.

be back in twenty.......

 

[HighIntensity]

Vidlak don't make me kill you

 

[HighIntensity]

yea im a self made millioner


what gains can I expect with anavar...and what about the losses after getting off...

 

[HappyScrappy]

self made millionaire?

anavar has few sides, lots of strength and any gains you make you will retain as long as you maintain a good clean diet.

primo as well, but many people will disagree there.

gh is expensive and will cut you, but you won't grow much without it and test together.

when taking test, take liquidex with it and you can raise the doses moreso.

 

[HighIntensity]

happy...what can I expect to pay for a cycle of anavar...

the millionaire part was an attempt at sarcasim...it wasn't self made anyway

 

[HappyScrappy]

anavar is made by many people.
there is an underground (sort of) lab that makes them quite cheap.
and then there are the real things which are quite expensive.
there are many discussions as to what is good and what isn't.

as for winny - the oral and the injectible versions are the exact same thing - the injectible is just in a suspension.

 

[68GT350]

IP IP is the man for me.
His stuff is cheap
and with a lot of purchases,
Shipping is free.

IP IP is the man for me.
His selection is great,
and when bought in bulk,
your wallet won't shrink..just your wee wee.


Sorry, feelin a little stoopit today.

 

[HappyScrappy]

what about dbol tabs? same?

same what?
you can get an injectible version of that as well as the tabs.
those tend to bring on more bloat, where as winny and anavar are for cutting.
winny is treated like a benzo in the brain and so when you get off of it, there is a chance of depression.
anavar gets rid of stomach fat and makes better used of creatine in your body.
dbol makes you bloated and hungry and strong.

 

[68GT350]

Seriously though...Anabolic boards guys. You people sound dopey. Just do some research. I can't stand ignorant newbies that are looking to just jump into AS. Omega may know his stuff, but he don't know everything. Read read and read some more.

 

[OMEGA]

VIDLAK thanks for the non gay hugs


High I

what i propose will surly be rufuted, and people will say it's too weak......well fooey

a "freind" finished his first cycle about 3 months ago.

he did this........and gained 15 pounds initially, and kept 12. permament.

if he had it to do over agin he would of done it this way and with these dosages.............he probably would have gained 7 more pounds.

so here it is, and don't worry that dbol is included, you make great increases quickly, and you'll enjoy the whole cycle, and the results after............. the dbol will give no sides, at this level, and duration,

when the PRIMO kicks in....after 4 weeks, you will be able to retain the gains maid, while ceasing the dbol, thus letting your test level, (if surpressed to come back)

note my "freind" did PRIMO at 10 weeks at 300 mgs, a week, and needed no test stmulating or anti E drugs......for that is the buety of PRIMO.

PRIMO has a half life of 5 days so I recommend 200 mgs of PRIMO, every 5 days for 9 weeks........

this will be pricy, but worth your needs.

run the dbol, for 5 weeks,.

do 3 dbol a day even ly spaced out at 3 -4 hour intervals.

after the dbol runs out load up on creatine at 15 grams a day,,,,,,,,and ride out the rest of your cycle on the primo only.


again you will lose a little after the half life of the primo runs out, but your own body will kick in and almost all gains will be kept.


if water retention becomes a problem, esp post cycle, when estorgen could rbound, have some nolvadex, and eat 10 mgs a day for 3 weeks or so, after the 5 day of the last shot.

nolvadex, is will block the estorgen, and you be set.


again there will be disagreements.....

 

[68GT350]

It is your job to read many peoples' experience and decide on your own. Remember, it's your body. Weigh the pro's and con's and make a guesstimate as to what you think will help you attain your "ideal" phsyique.

 

[HighIntensity]

see this is why i have refrained from as...and just done prohormones and supps...it's just not as simple as popping a pill or injecting...

o.k. ball park...how much $$$ for that cycle....and could I just pump high grade anavar for a month...

68GT350---sorry to sound like an as virgin...ill go round for round with anyone on training...just looking an effective one time cycle

 

[OMEGA]

it looked kind of choppy,

so here

200 PRIMO every 5th day for 9 weeks

5 mg dbol 3 pills a day every 4 hours

discontinue dbol after the 4'th or 5'th week.

switch from dbol to 15 grams of creatine till cycle is over.

then take 2 weeks off to give your self, a break.


this cyle will get you 10-15 if you train right, sleep right.

this will give you an edge



good luck

 

[HighIntensity]

one more thing---I am very happy with my current phsyique...just want to enhance it by 10-15 pounds...definition is perfect except for the wheels

 

[OMEGA]

AND>>>>>>>>>?????

 

[HighIntensity]

THANKS OMEGA looks good...you knowledge is well appreciated.

for your time and effort I will give you karma for the next 15 days..

 

[HappyScrappy]

hmmmm what about a fina/winny cycle then? i hear you can gain 10-15 on that and its easy to fallow

it is awesome - but not so great for beginners - at least read through the AS board for awhile, get to know the stuff in and out.
most importantly the sides - the cost/benfit ratios.

 

[68GT350]

HI,

I'm sorry but if you think you are going to do one cycle, think again. It may not be addicting as say...crack, but it is definitely easy to make a habit of.

Don't sweat it though, everyone is an AS virgin at one point and time. If you have a good physique already, just concentrate your efforts on your "wheels" instead of the other body parts. I don't think you'll need Juice to do that.

What the hell do I know, though. Keep in mind, though...everyone disagree's cuz everyoen's body is different. Thus, you may react differently to one type of AS compared to the guy giving you advice. That's my experience.

 

[OMEGA]

HIGH I

good luck....I GAURANTEE you will be happy, and safe.

anytime you need help say the word.........GOOD NIGHT.


and VIDLAK

a "freind'' liked the instant results of the orals, but favors the gradual coming off effect of oilbased injectables, the thing with injectables, too........is that they take 3-4 weeks to kick in, before you feel the effect.......you see its like time release.

orals start your cycle right away, and when blood levels of the oil based injectables accumulate to a favored level......this is when you would want to discontinue usage of the orals.


a "freind" of mine is not hardcore, nor will ever be.....and he has conceptualized oral only cycles. but you have to be more on top of things with that......popping pills every couple hours, could get too you.

 

[HighIntensity]

yea I know ill probley get addicted...but I really need to look good for a certain reason...

like I was saying im looking to take my 180..190 5'10 frame and add 10 pounds to it...going up 2 say 198-200 but stay very cut...


thanks for all the advice ill hit you all up with karma...when i get reloaded...

 

[68GT350]

I appreciate the offer of Karma but don't kill yourself. I say these things cuz I don't want you to harm yourself by jumping into something.

 

[HighIntensity]

bump for FRAC