Oly lifting bad for sport ?????

[Protobuilder]

Might be of interest: http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/coachsci/csa/vol21/bell.htm

Bell, G. J., Petersen, S. R., Quinney, A. H., & Wenger, H. A. (1989). The effect of velocity-specific strength training on peak torque and anaerobic rowing power. Journal of Sports Sciences, 7, 205-214.

This study failed to show performance benefits that are supposed to result from resistance training programs. It supports the absolute specificity of training principle and suggests that an emphasis on resistance training in high-level athletes is not useful for improving performance. Such programs may even restrict the volume of beneficial specific training that can be achieved because of the level of fatigue that results from their execution. Neither modern training theory nor the mounting evidence of the ineffectiveness of specific resistance training programs supports the continued emphasis on this type of training as a means of generating performance improvements in high-caliber athletes.

 

[LiftingDukkha]

Go take a visit to the Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs and you will see almost every sport and their mother doing Olympic lifts....Even the divers are doing it!

I grew up there, only reason I know!

I saw a video of Tommy Moe, Olympic gold-medal downhill skier, doing Clean & Jerk with 225 for reps. I paid attention to this since he's from Alaska and I am too, and Olympic gold medalists are rock stars up here. If clean & jerk, especially with such high weight (that he did so fluidly with ease) is good enough for him, I suspect it's not necessarily bad for everyone else.

Since Tommy Moe obviously was successful in his training, there must be something to it. I would guess that while clean & jerk is far from sport-specific for him, he as most elite athletes probably "periodize" their training year-round, going into "brute" physical development (pure running, weightlifting, etc.) in the early offseason, then gradually backing off unrelated activities & progressing back into sport-specific activities as their competitive seasons draw near. (Perhaps boxers don't have this luxury, since the pro boxers, at least, seem to compete year-round.)

 

[LiftingDukkha]

I need to correct something: I said Tommy Moe was doing clean & jerk, but he was doing power cleans only.

 

[Anthrax Invasion]

Might be of interest: http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/dept/coachsci/csa/vol21/bell.htm

Bell, G. J., Petersen, S. R., Quinney, A. H., & Wenger, H. A. (1989). The effect of velocity-specific strength training on peak torque and anaerobic rowing power. Journal of Sports Sciences, 7, 205-214.

Doesn't that say the study was done in 1989?

 

[musketeer]

My buddy is ignoring his trainer and coming oly lifting with me anyway! Seems his trainer's coming out with loads of wierd shit like:

Protein powders are bad for you - drink raw eggs!

Chinups are not weight training because there are no weights, but cleans will make you slow because they are with weights!

His knee pains will go away when he loses weight - stretching will just make the joints less tight (tight is apparently a good thing!)

Yada, Yada, Yada...

 

[Reakt]

My buddy is ignoring his trainer and coming oly lifting with me anyway! Seems his trainer's coming out with loads of wierd shit like:

Protein powders are bad for you - drink raw eggs!

Chinups are not weight training because there are no weights, but cleans will make you slow because they are with weights!

His knee pains will go away when he loses weight - stretching will just make the joints less tight (tight is apparently a good thing!)

Yada, Yada, Yada...

Unfortunately while there has been many advances in strength and conditioning in other sports, boxing is still rooted in "old school" tradition and the majority of trainers are full of bad advise in terms of strength and conditioning.

i've gotta run but:
www.rossboxing.com <-send your friend here for good info

 

[pgsam]

Protein powders are bad for you - drink raw eggs!

i am in disbelief. how old is this guy? kids on the bb.com teen forum know better than that

 

[putrefied_dead]

My buddy is ignoring his trainer and coming oly lifting with me anyway! Seems his trainer's coming out with loads of wierd shit like:

Protein powders are bad for you - drink raw eggs!

Chinups are not weight training because there are no weights, but cleans will make you slow because they are with weights!

His knee pains will go away when he loses weight - stretching will just make the joints less tight (tight is apparently a good thing!)

Yada, Yada, Yada...

OMFG.... thats a riot... ROTFLMFAO