Ok..virgin first cycle!

[wrestler69]

After doing some research for about 1 year, i have decided to do my first cycle and figured out what im going to run. Im 22 and have been lifting for 11 years, and involved in competitive sports for the same.

weeks 1-8
sust. 500mgs/week
eq. 200mgs/week....kind of low, but i want to save a little cash
weeks 4-8
winny tabs. 50mgs/day
weeks 10-12
clomid
300mgs first day..150 next 3. down to 50 till end...1.5 weeks total
nolvadex on hand if gyno shows up. Also nizoral shampoo, but the 1% shit.

Im wondering if i should run winny all the way through from week one, but that might be a long time to be on it for me and the old liver. I always get mixed responses on that question, but i know im going to run it for the last four weeks at least so i could minimize bloating from the sustanon.

Oh yea...should i run winny by itself while on clomid? I want to get vascular and keep all gains obviously?
thanx

 

[gilly6993]

You've been lifting since you were 11?....what are your stats....if you're are going to run the winny do it weeks 6-11, then clomid on week 12...save even more money by leaving out the EQ and buy some liquidex to keep off the bloat as it sounds like you're looking to cut a little....

 

[robsatx]

Gilly, why should he leave out the EQ?

Please advise . . .
I thought EQ was good for good solid slow gains that are enhanced by Test.
P.S. I would not do Sust. I would do Test En or Test Cyp.

Just my .02.

 

[gilly6993]

Re: Gilly, why should he leave out the EQ?

Please advise . . .
I thought EQ was good for good solid slow gains that are enhanced by Test.
P.S. I would not do Sust. I would do Test En or Test Cyp.

Just my .02.

....200 is a waste IMO....I would suggest at least 400 or leave it out....

 

[wrestler69]

yea..i havve been lifting since i was 11, and im 5'9" 215 pounds. Im around 10% bodyfat. I could see my six-pack, but its not hard ass hell. My bench is 405, and the closest thing i have taken to a cycle is two bottles of 1AD at 6pills/day. My goal is to be 225 solid and then cut for a show in the spring. I then should compete well at 200 pounds hopefully.

I thought EQ would be great with sust for retaining some hard vascular gains? Im more concerned about gains than the bloat. Should i still dump the EQ.

 

[gwl9dta4]

Impressive bench.

 

[gilly6993]

Bump the EQ to 400......

 

[robsatx]

Re: Re: Gilly, why should he leave out the EQ?

....200 is a waste IMO....I would suggest at least 400 or leave it out....

Thanks Gilly! I was planning on running
400Mg per week 1-12
500 mg Test En week 1-9
25MG ED dbol for 4 weeks

I am waiting for my stuff and you had me concerned.

 

[gilly6993]

Re: Re: Re: Gilly, why should he leave out the EQ?

Thanks Gilly! I was planning on running
400Mg per week 1-12
500 mg Test En week 1-9
25MG ED dbol for 4 weeks

I am waiting for my stuff and you had me concerned.

Solid cycle but why are you stopping the test at week 9? I would run the dbol at the beginning to jumpstart things and run the test/EQ for the same amount of time, either 10 or 12 weeks.....

 

[robsatx]

I can do that.

I thought it was good to keep test under 10 weeks? I ordered 2 extra bottles of each. I will go 12 weeks with both. I am itching to see what kind of gains I can make. I am hoping for a solid 12 lbs of "keepable" gains.
Thanks for the input!

 

[robsatx]

Gilly

Some warm and fuzzy coming your way.
thanks again!

 

[gilly6993]

Re: Gilly

Some warm and fuzzy coming your way.
thanks again!

....back at ya ....

 

[Canuck4]

I agree. Either bump it to 400mg or dont use it at all. Its pointless at only 200mg per week. You're not gonna get anything from it.

Bump the EQ to 400......