OK vets, thinking up my second cycle.

[Spidey]

Alright. I just ended my first cycle which was tren ac 50 mg ed weeks 1-3, tren ac + test prop 50 mg ed each weeks 4-8 and test prop 50 mg ed weeks 9-11. I started nolvadex at 10 mg ed on week 9 and continued through week 11. Followed up with Clomid 100 mg ed week 12 and 50 mg ed week 13. I weighed in yesterday at 161.5 lbs; I started at 137 lbs at 5'8". My diet included 300 g protein ed and about 3700 to 4000 calories. I'll try to eat more next time .

I didn't really get much from the added test except acne on my shoulders and an overactive sex drive. I probably will cut the dose down on test prop next time. I got nothing in the way of sides from the tren: no hairloss, acne, or aggression. Just big muscles .

I have tendonopathy (sp?) in my shoulder which is really hindering my workouts right now. I just acquired 360 IU's of Humatrope and a buttload of tren ac and I still have ~4 grams test prop left. I figure my next cycle will be around February. Tell me what you think:

weeks 1-13: humatrope 4 iu per day (6 days on 1 day off?)
weeks 1-4 or 1-6: DBol 25 mg ed split dose (5 x 5 mg)
weeks 1-8: tren ac 50 mg ed

If I can't get a hold of the dbol, I'll throw in test prop weeks 1-8 at 25 mg ed just to keep the sex drive up.

I'll start my clomid therapy three days after last shot of tren (test prop) and continue two weeks. Nolvadex on hand.

I will take the hgh for 90 days. Is it better to start it 5 weeks BEFORE the aas or continue it 5 weeks AFTER aas?

-Spidey

 

[Spidey]

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[raider2124]

First off how old are you and what is your previous training experience. By the looks of it you should not even think about using HGH at your weight and this being your second cycle!. You need to research more or you will end up fucking yourself up my friend. This is not a flame it is me being concerned with what could happen to you if you don't know what you are doing. HGH is for advanced cyclers and is nothing to play around with!

 

[Spidey]

First off how old are you and what is your previous training experience. By the looks of it you should not even think about using HGH at your weight and this being your second cycle!. You need to research more or you will end up fucking yourself up my friend. This is not a flame it is me being concerned with what could happen to you if you don't know what you are doing. HGH is for advanced cyclers and is nothing to play around with!

I appriciate your concern. I am 34 and have trained off and on for over ten years. I am a classic ectomorph and have a really hard time gaining weight. The reason I am going with HGH is because of my tendon problems. HGH can strengthen and thicken tendons which is just what I need. I am not some foolhardy kid who rushes in to things. I do my research. I did my first cycle to help with some muscle problems in my back. It worked like a charm; problem solved. The tendon problems require something different though and I don't want to have to resort to surgery. 4 iu's a day isn't a humongous dose anyway and it has a short half life so if problems arise, I can always quit.

-Spidey

 

[Juicy-R6]

use test in your cycle.
use the gh for longer than 3 months. i would say (5-6)
GH by itself is not very effective so i don't see the point in starting it 5 weeks before aas.

Just my 2 cents...godd luck bro.

 

[Spidey]

use test in your cycle.
use the gh for longer than 3 months. i would say (5-6)
GH by itself is not very effective so i don't see the point in starting it 5 weeks before aas.

Just my 2 cents...godd luck bro.

Thanks for the advise. I will have enough to go maybe 4 months with a 5/2 split.

OK, good point. HGH isn't very anabolic by itself. I should run it after the aas. What about then though. I can't cycle steroids for 4 months. What's the point of running the GH alone for that extra 2 months if it's not going to be anabolic?

-Spidey

 

[Juicy-R6]

see what i would do is 5 months of gh, the fisrt 2 months use it along with a moderate cycle of aas, the 3rd month bridge it with primo and maybe it up some clomid, then re-start another weak to mild cycle of aas on the 4th and 5th month. finish everything after 5 months with some more clomid if u need. its like doing 2 mimi cycles in one big cycle with a month in between of giving ur body a rest a bringing up ur htpa levels. have arimidex or nolvadex on hand just in case.

 

[Spidey]

see what i would do is 5 months of gh, the fisrt 2 months use it along with a moderate cycle of aas, the 3rd month bridge it with primo and maybe it up some clomid, then re-start another weak to mild cycle of aas on the 4th and 5th month. finish everything after 5 months with some more clomid if u need. its like doing 2 mimi cycles in one big cycle with a month in between of giving ur body a rest a bringing up ur htpa levels. have arimidex or nolvadex on hand just in case.

Thanks again but I only have enough for 4 months if I split it 5 days on 2 days off. I got this for a song but can't get anymore. This was a special deal with a good friend of mine.

I have some time yet to think on this. I won't be starting anything until February. Right now I have the GH, a lot of tren, and about 4 grams test prop. I am leaning toward doing a 8 to ten week cycle with the tren, mild dose test prop, and HGH; maybe some dbol in the beginning. Then continue the GH for the remainder to cut. I don't know yet. I still need to do some more research.

-Spidey

 

[Spectre]

Your gains are awesome in proportion to your size. Good work.. Your body has some serious adjusting to do. You did so well do the same damn thing over again and add the GH. That way you will know if it works for you or not possibly saving you some cash down the road.