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if you were a chick and someone hit you up to run a log for them but gears would you abuse?
assuming it was ladies choice
 
a ph, seriously??


I asked someone else their first response was GH
which is an interesting idea..but then what else? its fairly limited if I dont want a penis and a stache no?
 
Gh would be great because it's expensive but would be a long, boring log because you need a period of time to really notice much.

Would depend on the goal of the log really and what they have access to
 
whatever could be desired

and as long as they want to fund it for
 
GH is great, but you do need a solid 6+ months to start seeing the benefits. And for the longest-term benefits, I'd guess more like two years.

Isn't anavar a choice drug for wimmins? I'm asking btw, not saying.
 
yeah, var is an obv choice
but if one were to abuse someone elses joose

npp? gh for the fuck of it because someone else is paying for it?

seems rather limited
 
yeah, var is an obv choice
but if one were to abuse someone elses joose

npp? gh for the fuck of it because someone else is paying for it?

seems rather limited

any test or test analogue will cause sides...vocal chords lengthen , clit gets, well, kinda scary, hair grows, and if the abuser is still in the market for kids I would never screw with anything but var--and even them the sides are not known
 
For some reason, I remember reading somewhere that women should never do deca.

But no, I don't have citationings.
 
Im considering frankenshirlz

I could accessorize with neck plugs

idk...tbol barely causes a hiccup on my radar..I have to go up to 20mg of var to see any real sides...and even then they aren't bad unless you consider hard as hell bad
test prop was a failure but only because of cystic acne and didn't do what I was looking for
npp is pretty low in androgenic scale.....



have I said too much?
 
idk, chris, what say you to a progestin for someone thats perimenopausal?

I had no idea it was used to treat osteoporosis in women at one point...50mg every three weeks
 
Primo/var

If I'm going to abuse someone for free joose it would be primo and var.

yeah see I'm seeing a lot of women say they preferred the npp over the primo


I really have no idea....like I said, I'm looking for maximum abuse potential here
did I actually say that?
 
npp prob less likely to cause hair loss but I'd start really low if I were you

I loved npp. felt great on it
 
yeah see I'm seeing a lot of women say they preferred the npp over the primo


I really have no idea....like I said, I'm looking for maximum abuse potential here
did I actually say that?

problem with NPP is it can cause milk duct cysts (plus all sorts on menopause issues like calcium and K+ uptake issues)--so if you plan to use them as feed bags someday skip the NPP
 
Fuck all you talk about is gear...nice life


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problem with NPP is it can cause milk duct cysts (plus all sorts on menopause issues like calcium and K+ uptake issues)--so if you plan to use them as feed bags someday skip the NPP

36, four kids, utterly done having the childrens



(I hope)
 
here what I found for crappy sides for female rats (only thing I found fast that had citationings and "female")

Effects of the anabolic steroid nandrolone phenylpropionate on craniofacial growth in rats - Noda - 2005 - Journal of Morphology - Wiley Online Library

The effect of nandrolone decan... [J Gerontol A Biol Sci Med Sci. 2005] - PubMed - NCBI

ND increased BMD, hemoglobin levels, and muscle mass, and reduced the vertebral fracture rate of elderly osteoporotic women.
 
The effect of nandrolone decan... [J Gerontol A Biol Sci Med Sci. 2005] - PubMed - NCBI

ND increased BMD, hemoglobin levels, and muscle mass, and reduced the vertebral fracture rate of elderly osteoporotic women.

the article makes good points but it is for post menopausal wimmins and therefore the complications with concomitant natural pre-menopausal levels of the 3 estrogens/progest are still valid--

what i neglected to mention was winstrol maybe a possibility--depending on goals...though I hate the stuff as it makes my joint hurt like nothing else.
 
In my very limited experience with nandrolone use by a female; sides were minimal, libido was definitely increased, but orgasms became very wimpy. Those last two make a frustrating combination. Her body tightened up nicely though; didn't add a lot of bulk.
 
the article makes good points but it is for post menopausal wimmins and therefore the complications with concomitant natural pre-menopausal levels of the 3 estrogens/progest are still valid--

what i neglected to mention was winstrol maybe a possibility--depending on goals...though I hate the stuff as it makes my joint hurt like nothing else.

winny makes my arthritis scream so bad I can barely move

for me I'm workin with perimenopausal hormone levels

test is mid range
estrogen is in the bottom third of the bottom third range
progesterone was below normal

all ran based on date/timing within cycle

BUT when those tests were run my thyroid profile was also terrible. Not disease terrible but not optimal.


TSH was fairly low..good number
but T4 was low normal and T3 was a hair below normal..not ideal

RT3 was not a high enough value to be considered a factor but was present

antibodies test was good, again present but below being considered a "positive" test.

I take a prescribed dessicated thyroid

I was prescribed progesterone supplementation but never remember to take it and honestly really noticed not too big of a difference with it which is probably why I never remember to take it.

so there..you have more info to go on
 
winny makes my arthritis scream so bad I can barely move

for me I'm workin with perimenopausal hormone levels

test is mid range
estrogen is in the bottom third of the bottom third range
progesterone was below normal

all ran based on date/timing within cycle

BUT when those tests were run my thyroid profile was also terrible. Not disease terrible but not optimal.


TSH was fairly low..good number
but T4 was low normal and T3 was a hair below normal..not ideal

RT3 was not a high enough value to be considered a factor but was present

antibodies test was good, again present but below being considered a "positive" test.

I take a prescribed dessicated thyroid

I was prescribed progesterone supplementation but never remember to take it and honestly really noticed not too big of a difference with it which is probably why I never remember to take it.

so there..you have more info to go on

You're a fucking disaster


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oddly enough I'm finding I have almost no tolerance for alcohol anymore

either my liver is shot or its in my head
 
oddly enough I'm finding I have almost no tolerance for alcohol anymore

either my liver is shot or its in my head

That would scare me. I'd bet you've got a good metabolism from working out, so you would also burn-off alcohol fairly fast.

As long as I space-out my drinks, I can drink tons and not even be slow the next day.

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yeah, I've been thinking about that one lately because it has weirded me out a little bit

I also have noticed I respond very poorly to any sort of sugar or highly processed food.
Obviously one should try to avoid large amounts of alcohol and a diet high in processed food but it seems strange to me that I went from avg to almost no tolerance practically overnight.
It seems like I've had a sudden hard shift towards aging quickly and I'm not sure why.

but I also tend to be an anomaly with a lot of stuff and find that if I wait things usually pass
at one point I had ultra high test but perfectly normal ovaries..well before I ever started dabbling in anything hormonal

I haven't taken very good care of myself diet-wise over the years so I'm taking a harder look at micronutrients lately ... not to be new age-y but I'm certain the answer lies in there somewhere.
 
Shirl...purely anecdotal but most women I know and myself included, would prefer npp over primo. Not all but most.

Being peri is a bitch. I feel like a super hero on cycle but the aftermath isn't fun. It takes that much longer to even out hormonally and the "crash" seems worse.

I was thinking more about this last night and I'd definitely get on the GH wagon if someone else was footing the bill. :)
 
yeah, every woman Ive talked to says npp over primo

and thats what I was thinkin about the gh as well...lol

you think being peri makes the ride worse? I dont have a comparison because I didnt have a whole lot of aas abuse prior to being peri
 
Shirl...purely anecdotal but most women I know and myself included, would prefer npp over primo. Not all but most.

Being peri is a bitch. I feel like a super hero on cycle but the aftermath isn't fun. It takes that much longer to even out hormonally and the "crash" seems worse.

I was thinking more about this last night and I'd definitely get on the GH wagon if someone else was footing the bill. :)

jesus christ you take gear? lol i wasnt even sure if you worked out.
 
jesus christ you take gear? lol i wasnt even sure if you worked out.

I know that means I don't fit it in but I may have seen the inside of a gym a time or two.. Have maybe even set foot on a stage once or twice ;)
 
That would scare me. I'd bet you've got a good metabolism from working out, so you would also burn-off alcohol fairly fast.

As long as I space-out my drinks, I can drink tons and not even be slow the next day.

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Yeah I'm the same way. I can have two bottles of wine and be completely functional in the morning but my wife is a disaster. I have a strong ass liver.
 
yeah, every woman Ive talked to says npp over primo

and thats what I was thinkin about the gh as well...lol

you think being peri makes the ride worse? I dont have a comparison because I didnt have a whole lot of aas abuse prior to being peri

It's been about 18 months since I've been on anything but just found the period after to be a challenge... Almost that post cycle depression. Is probably stay on all the time if sides weren't an issue!
 
English please. I cant even decipher what you wrote

thats what you get when im typing on my phone and making a pb&j sandwich


everyone else got it
you must be failing in your old age
 
Cali for Mod!! of C&C and the womens forums (are they still alive?)!!
 
but i thought they had Dr's help put them together, and they are the only ones who have access to true tribulus and milk thistle
 
I actually just had an amazing bowl of chicken breast ripped up and mixed with a tablespoon of texas pickle juice for a little kick and flavor

not keto friendly..bit of sugar in the juice but pretty fricken awesome none the less

and got a homemade chicken pot pie in the oven all set for the family peeps to cook while I'm at work
I made three dinners for the fam and one lunch for me from one chicken

go roasted chicken leftovers!
 
I actually just had an amazing bowl of chicken breast ripped up and mixed with a tablespoon of texas pickle juice for a little kick and flavor

not keto friendly..bit of sugar in the juice but pretty fricken awesome none the less

Cool story, made me feel like i was in Texas

oh wait...
 
I actually just had an amazing bowl of chicken breast ripped up and mixed with a tablespoon of texas pickle juice for a little kick and flavor

not keto friendly..bit of sugar in the juice but pretty fricken awesome none the less

and got a homemade chicken pot pie in the oven all set for the family peeps to cook while I'm at work
I made three dinners for the fam and one lunch for me from one chicken

go roasted chicken leftovers!

Nice Betty-Fuckin-Crocker life!
 
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