ok, i think all this clomid hype is b.s.

[AlPhASiLvErBaCk]

WTF?
does anybody feel they loose more of their gains when they use clomid than when they don't?
i do, and it is pissing me off.
any info appreciated

 

[drrman]

im no clomid fan either

 

[bigdelt69]

clomid is most commonly used in post cycle therapy. Its not the clomid that makes you loose your gains, its the fact that your body is shut down. I believe the issue of using anti-e's DURING the cycle is what is in question.

 

[humanoid]

clomid is most commonly used in post cycle therapy. Its not the clomid that makes you loose your gains, its the fact that your body is shut down. I believe the issue of using anti-e's DURING the cycle is what is in question.

I agree! Another big factor in losing gains is that post cycle many people let their caloric and protein intake slip. Training also becomes less structured. When the juice is gone, so is the motivation for some people.

 

[gilly6993]

I agree! Another big factor in losing gains is that post cycle many people let their caloric and protein intake slip. Training also becomes less structured. When the juice is gone, so is the motivation for some people.

Yep.....Clomid combined with proper traing and exceptional nutrition are the keys.....

 

[Nutrient-Nut]

clomid is most commonly used in post cycle therapy. Its not the clomid that makes you loose your gains, its the fact that your body is shut down. I believe the issue of using anti-e's DURING the cycle is what is in question.

Clomid DURING a cycle will not reduce gains at all. I know, I've cycled with and w/o it. Now, Nolvadex and Arimidex to some degree will diminish gains if used during the entire course of a cycle.

NN

 

[bigdog20]

After my first cycle i did not use clomid. after my last cycle i did use clomid. I did not notice much of a diffance.

 

[Themachine01]

to be totally honest, I have used clomid post cycle for about 3 years now, except for my last cycle. My last cycle was 500mg test enanthate and 400mg of EQ for 10 weeks, I did not use clomid post cycle and noticed that I kept more gains without it.

 

[Sigmund Roid]

Clomid DURING a cycle will not reduce gains at all. I know, I've cycled with and w/o it. Now, Nolvadex and Arimidex to some degree will diminish gains if used during the entire course of a cycle.

NN

Nutrient-nut,

Be careful with your avatar, Arnold might sue you for 20 mils!

 

[musclebones]

All I know is when I do clomid my nuts go back to normal in no time. To me thats reason enough to use it.

 

[Shoot Me Up]

how long since your last shot within your cycle did you start noticing that you are losing gains? in other words, after a cycle, how long can you enjoy your muscle growth before you start normalizing again?

 

[cdownie927]

after my first cycle i didn't use any post therepy because i really didnt know any better and after a couple of weeks i got depressed and didnt want to train anymore so i took a week off, boy was that a mistake because i lost most of my size. i decided next cycle i would do it right because i dont want that to happen again, i just finished my second cycle of 600mg enth and 450mg deca a week i went from 150-180lb now im about 175 and 5'7 because ive been watching what i eat but i dont want to lose much more just want my bottom abs to come out. Just started clomid yesterday so in 3 weeks ill let u know if it worked im hoping it will because i dont want the same thing to happen again. clomid runs like this 200mg day 1,100mg2-7,50mg 8-21

 

[augastes_stiranko]

I have haven't used clomid for 2 years when off. I really hate the way clomid makes me feel and I also believe it's not as effective as hyped. I instead use high doses of MACA with high doses of FUZU. Works just as well as clomid if not better . It also keeps your libido high while off a cycle.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

dopamine therapy may be as effective.. if not more in combinations with a aromatase inhibitor..

 

[Vectork39]

i've heard that clomid is old school and no one really uses it anymore, is that true? personally i think i'll keep taking it

 

[Enock]

coming off soon BUMP

 

[bigdelt69]

i can promise you that many people still use clomid.

 

[AlPhASiLvErBaCk]

i don't know guys, my firsy cycle i did not use, kept about 15 of 23 pounds, second cycle, used clomid, put on 20pounds lost it all. this cycle i put on 20 pounds, i've been off of prop now for a week and i have dropped about 4 pounds. i'm still eating like a pig and training hard and will continue to do so. i also used hcg post cycle 10 days 500iu/day.
i'm gonna wonder what the fuck is up if i loose it all again

 

[macDbol]

clomid may suck, but dont compare your first cycle without clomid to your second cycle with clomid,,,most ppl keep alot of their gains off their first cycle clomid or no clomid

 

[latinus_spicticus]

Take this with a grain of salt, as I am not a true "bodybuilder".

I hate clomid. I think that it sucks. Yes, it will help alleviate gyno and it will return your nads to normal size. However, the emotional effects (for me, at least) negate any benefits of its use. I think that as long as you stay motivated (which, admittedly, is hard to do when discontinuing AAS), keep training hard/regularly, and eating/resting correctly, you will keep as much muscle/strength as possible, whether or not you are taking an anti-e.

I base this opinion primarily on performance. I am not the kind of person who stands in front of a mirror 24/7. I base my results on numbers in the weight room. Clomid has not, in my experience, made any difference in the amount of weight/work I can do after a cycle. I usually recover within a few weeks regardless of whether or not I use clomid. And when I don't use it, I do not break down and cry to my girlfriend. When on clomid...well, that is another story. Arimidex seems to be the best option WRT fighting the estrogenic sides after a cycle in my experience. I don't really use anti-e's during a cycle unless my h20 retention gets out of hand. To each his own, I guess. But on a strictly performance-based level, clomid does not do anything for me. I am sure it is individual though.

 

[ROAD DOG]

The thing I like about clomid is after a week or 2,I start shooting big loads again.That makes it worth it to me.

 

[AlPhASiLvErBaCk]

any other opinions?

 

[f4209211]

This is the kind of thread that really confuses me. I finished my first ever SUS 500 week cycle 3 weeks a go. I started clomid yesterday by taking 6 tabs the first day. 2 tabs for the next 10 days and then a tab each day for another 10 days. I gained 17 pds and have lost only 2 so far in 3 weeks but my strength is still very much up.

Funny thing is, i'm not eating like pig but just very clean and high protien. Also running Clen 2 tabs a day with it. Have a friend that said he ran DECA by itself for 8 weeks without any Clomid and kept all his shit.

 

[Sigmund Roid]

I think using clomid directly after the cycle will speed up loss of water bloat, and therefore give you the impression that you loose 'muscle' faster.