Oil Spill - another NYT article

[billfred]

Here is another NY Times article on the current spill status. Once again, not even slighty conservative reporting here.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/28/us/28spill.html?_r=1

Let's see, we are 2 weeks into the well being capped and spill is almost already all gone.

Sure seems like it is going to clean up a lot faster than the 100 million year ezekiel was predicting.

 

[RottenWillow]

The readily apparent "surface" oil always disappear quickly. The action of the tide, the porous sand, and the absorbent plant life disperses it. The longterm ecological impact is going to be a clusterfuck for another generation though.

 

[billfred]

The readily apparent "surface" oil always disappear quickly. The action of the tide, the porous sand, and the absorbent plant life disperses it. The longterm ecological impact is going to be a clusterfuck for another generation though.

I can see where most people could think that but I really don't think the general populations realizes how much oil natrually seeps in the oceans on a daily basis.

Check out these sattelite images.

Natural Oil Seeps in the Gulf of Mexico

In fact, a lot of times when doing international exploration on frontier basins, this is where you strat. Mapping seeps. All oil producing basins have them.

 

[billfred]

The readily apparent "surface" oil always disappear quickly. The action of the tide, the porous sand, and the absorbent plant life disperses it. The longterm ecological impact is going to be a clusterfuck for another generation though.

Here is an article in 2003 that calculates the amount of oil that seeps into the gulf yearly to be about equal to the amount that was released by BP.

This is why the Gulf has an environment that is going to take care of most of this naturally.

Interesting note for you Californians the amount that seeps on the west coast is quite significant as well.

 

[billfred]

You know I'm a tree hugger, I readily admit it. And I've been trying to do some reading on this issue, looking for objective opinions. You're absolutely right, oil seeps all the time, it's a natural process. And in areas where there is significant seepage, organisms have evolved that love oil almost as much as we do. Ain't nature frigging AWESOME!

The problem is the frigging dispersants they dumped. Thanks to that chemical concoction, there are untold thousands (I shudder to think millions) of gallons of "dispersed" oil that's just hanging out in the middle of the ocean, between the surface and the bottom. If they'd just left the stuff alone in its natural state and skimmed like mad muthers things would have been much better. They contaminated the oil and made things much worse.

We agree 100% on the dispersants issue. Can't believe they let that go on.

 

[musclemom]

Here is an article in 2003 that calculates the amount of oil that seeps into the gulf yearly to be about equal to the amount that was released by BP.

This is why the Gulf has an environment that is going to take care of most of this naturally.

Interesting note for you Californians the amount that seeps on the west coast is quite significant as well.

You know I'm a tree hugger, I readily admit it. And I've been trying to do some reading on this issue, looking for objective opinions. You're absolutely right, oil seeps all the time, it's a natural process. And in areas where there is significant seepage, organisms have evolved that love oil almost as much as we do. Ain't nature frigging AWESOME!

The problem is the frigging dispersants they dumped. Thanks to that chemical concoction, there are untold thousands (I shudder to think millions) of gallons of "dispersed" oil that's just hanging out in the middle of the ocean, between the surface and the bottom. If they'd just left the stuff alone in its natural state and skimmed like mad muthers things would have been much better. They contaminated the oil and made things much worse.

 

[Ezekiel]

Here is another NY Times article on the current spill status. Once again, not even slighty conservative reporting here.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/28/us/28spill.html?_r=1

Let's see, we are 2 weeks into the well being capped and spill is almost already all gone.

Sure seems like it is going to clean up a lot faster than the 100 million year ezekiel was predicting.

Could you at least pretend to not work for BP!!

The oil is:

almost already all gone

Just like magic I suppose?

So I guess what your saying is the spill is no big deal... It will all be gone in another couple weeks, life as we know is all grovy.. That sound about right? Don't worry everybody, the fishing and wild life will all be back to normal in a few weeks folks. It's not what we see in our drinking water the kills us, it's what we don't see.

I doubt there are many Marine Biologists or enviromental scientist (they don't work for BP) that believe the long term effects of this spill wont be huge...

There are many examples of wildlife not being back to normal after many years or an oil spill....

As you have stated in the past you are "in the industy". therefore your opinion is tainted and bias... Might as well have a pharma. company tell us that Thalidomide has no side effects.

Are you getting paid to post this shit on a bunch of forums or what?

 

[billfred]

Could you at least pretend to not work for BP!!

The oil is:

Just like magic I suppose?

So I guess what your saying is the spill is no big deal... It will all be gone in another couple weeks, life as we know is all grovy.. That sound about right? Don't worry everybody, the fishing and wild life will all be back to normal in a few weeks folks. It's not what we see in our drinking water the kills us, it's what we don't see.

I doubt there are many Marine Biologists or enviromental scientist (they don't work for BP) that believe the long term effects of this spill wont be huge...

There are many examples of wildlife not being back to normal after many years or an oil spill....

As you have stated in the past you are "in the industy". therefore your opinion is tainted and bias... Might as well have a pharma. company tell us that Thalidomide has no side effects.

Are you getting paid to post this shit on a bunch of forums or what?

I don't work for BP and don't get paid to post this stuff.

Based on your nut case predictions and the 100 million years to clean this up, can we assume you are the leader of the Sierra Club or just a nutcase in general?

 

[Ezekiel]

I don't work for BP and don't get paid to post this stuff.

Based on your nut case predictions and the 100 million years to clean this up, can we assume you are the leader of the Sierra Club or just a nutcase in general?

lolz.... that's it?

The BP quip was clearly a joke bill. Hence the grinny face...

I never said 100 million years, I said easily 100 years... Big Difference...

You should learn to dabate better Bill... Attack my arguments, not me... It will make you seem more credible.

Come on Bill, the least you could do is use Google and find some other BP execs to back up your "don't worry everyone, half a million gallons of oil never hurt anything" diatribe. Perhaps something about how fish and birds really like oil and that it's possibly good for their skin or something like that.

 

[-SD-]

If the NYTimes is posting a pro BP article i would say its probably not pushing an agenda and is credible because NYTimes is a liberal newspaper in general. i.e. they are very pro-environment and down with big oil.

 

[-SD-]

Oh... Good enough for me then!

gee that was easy.

 

[Ezekiel]

If the NYTimes is posting a pro BP article i would say its probably not pushing an agenda and is credible because NYTimes is a liberal newspaper in general. i.e. they are very pro-environment and down with big oil.

Oh... Good enough for me then!

 

[Ezekiel]

gee that was easy.

ya, I don't think it's suppose to be hard....

Nice post order eh?

 

[mrplunkey]

Here is another NY Times article on the current spill status. Once again, not even slighty conservative reporting here.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/28/us/28spill.html?_r=1

Let's see, we are 2 weeks into the well being capped and spill is almost already all gone.

Sure seems like it is going to clean up a lot faster than the 100 million year ezekiel was predicting.

This is the NYT's way of reminding you that Barry didn't mess up that badly and we should re-elect all the libs this fall.

I'm sure they'd be cutting Dubya some similar slack if he were in this position.

 

[billfred]

USA today - love the headlines of this article

Missing oil in Gulf baffles officials - USATODAY.com

Like it is hard to baffle officials.

 

[billfred]

So did the media's sensationalism hurt tourism and hotel operators more than the oil spill??


Gulf spill has not fouled most beaches but hurts tourism - USATODAY.com