Official 1st Cycle Log of Test E and Tren E

[PharmaDoc]

My current stats are 5'11'' 182lbs prior to my cycle and am looking to bulk up in both size and strength from this cycle. I am 28 years old and am about 9-10% BF. I stay this way year round and eat cleanly throughout the year as well. I've competed in several Bodybuilding competitions in 2008 and 2009. I placed 1st in my first competition and 3rd in my second. I have been lifting for 10 years now and stated at 5'11'' 135lbs.

I've been a long time reader and researcher and finally decided to give it a go. I also have a Bachelors in Biology with a minor in Chemistry. Currently, I'm in school for my doctorate in Pharmacy so Im no stranger to this material.

Cycle
Weeks 1-10 600mg Test E
Weeks 1-10 200mg Tren E
Sun: 1ml Test E (300mg/mL) + 0.5mL Tren E (200mg/mL)
Wed: Same thing

Diet - I eat cleanly year round but am stepping up the cals for this. Trying to get at least 3500/day.

Workout - I alternate abs and calves everyday
Mon: Chest
Tues: Back
Wed: Legs
Thurs: Arms
Fri: Shoulders

I have clomid and tamoxifen on hand but don't need to worry about any gyno bc I've had surgery for that in the past and can't get it again.

Can get an aromatase inhib and Caber if need be and am actually looking for suggestions on this.

I know some individuals think that Tren on their first cycle is overkill but I am keeping the dose low. I just want to maximize my first cycle as it tends to be the best for gains.

I will try to post as often as I can about workouts, sides, and gains.

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

I wouldnt recommend tren for a first time user.... And if you dont listen to the multiple users that are also gonna tell you not to use tren, you should atleast use the acetate so it can clear faster in case you are prone to sides.... Doses look great though for an introduction.... Whats your pct gonna look like?

I would run the test only and should net you great gains.... Good luck bro..
Johnny

 

[Judo Tom]

your first cycle produces the biggest gains because you are still under your genetic limit.. thats all.. you dont need a ton of drugs to do it.

now your cycle isnt crazy but if you are in this for the long haul there is no need to run tren just yet.

if you are in a rush drop the tren and add dbol or beastdrol at 20-30mg for a kick start

if you have competed before you obviously have a good understanding of diet, training and dedication so if you run a nice simple safe cycle you will get good results.. dont risk that by throwing in tren at this point.

 

[PharmaDoc]

So I am just starting my 3rd week but I will recap the previous two. I wasn't planning on posting thats why I'm a little behind.

Week 1: No strength or weight gains yet. Did notice energy levels were up and I wanted to start my next set right after I finished my previous one. No sides except a little insomnia/sweating, most likely from the Tren. Was able to fall back asleep but definitely covered in sweat in the morning.

Week 2: My workouts were getting better and energy was still increasing. The weight I use for each exercise is still the same as when I started but my reps are going up. Insomnia still a little bit of an issue as well as the sweating but otherwise no real sides.

Week 3: Starting to see some size in the mirror. Shoulders are filling out big time and the veins in and around my chest and shoulders are starting to pop out. I am pretty vascular as it is but even without a pump I have veins all down my arm. Also, the hardness of the muscles is becoming more apparent. I can see striations in my chest and the definition all over is more prominent. If this is any indication of what to expect the next 7 weeks are going to be epic!


I will post more often now that I've committed to this.
Starting weights:
DB Bench - 115lb x 3
Deadlift - 365 x 3
Squat - 315 x 6

 

[PharmaDoc]

Ive heard it both ways about the Tren and it still is early enough to stop so Ill let this week ride out and make a decision.

PCT clomid 100/100/50/50
If I continue the Tren I wouldn't use Nolva but if I stop Ill do 40/20/20/20

Not sure if I should use HCG during or after...I've heard it both ways so any advice would be appreciated.

 

[charomid]

here is some advice for your med school expertise. Have a PCT built and ready to go BEFORE beginning your cycle bro. its not a good idea to start and then say "hmm, im 3 weeks in, i wonder if i should be thinking about what to take when i come off" because then you will basically lose so much that u worked so hard to get. not trying to be rude, but this is peanuts compared to what the other big guys on here are gonna do to u when they read this thread.

 

[training700]

Should've done tren a if were going to, but probably fine hopefully no progesterone sides either.

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[PharmaDoc]

Sorry about the confusion earlier...I do have a PCT planned out I was just referring to an earlier post about the Tren and not using Nolva for PCT.
My PCT for this cycle:
Weeks 11-12 - HCG 1000 IU's E4Days
Weeks 13-16 - Clomid 100/50/50/50
Weeks 13-16 - Unleashed
Weeks 13-16 - Post Cycle

While On
Arimidex 0.25mg ED
Milk Thistle 1000mg BID
Saw Palmetto 450mg BID
Vit C 2g/day

So Day 1 week 3 - Did legs today and crushed them. I am starting to see the strength gains definitely. Legs are my least favorite body part to work as I have never been able to do very impressive weight but on my 5th set of squats did 315lbs for 5 reps no problem. Followed that with leg press starting at 4 plates for 15...then 5 plates...then 6...and finally 7 plates for 10 reps. For me thats pretty good and Im usually cooked at 5 or 6 plates for a handfull of reps.
Legs were super pumped and tight to the point of not being able to bend them hardly. Not complaining though and hopefully this keeps up!

 

[charomid]

yeah ur PCT is really good bro!!! didnt know u had it planned out, my fault. but like others have said, Tren for a first cycle is pretty rough since the sides that come with it. I have yet to run it but i probably will this year. and im pretty sure Tren Ace is what first timers should be running because it leaves ur system really quick instead of Tren E which stays in. correct me if im wrong on anything bros.

 

[Judo Tom]

that is a very very high dose of clomid.. do some research on guys who have used 12.5 or 25mg a day... 100 is really gonna mess with you..

 

[PharmaDoc]

Updates:

Starting with the clomid advice...I have seen PCT done both ways, some as the way I've posted and others who have gone with the lower dosage range. Since I am only running clomid and not Nolva, I figured maybe a slightly higher dosage would be beneficial but I will certainly look into it and adjust accordingly, if some of the veterans agree.

Pinning: I've gotten the hang of it and have been strictly alternating glutes. When I first started it felt like I was mule kicked and I could hardly walk lol, but now (after 2 weeks) I don't notice any pain at all. I am thinking of trying the outer quad but don't want to be limping around for days on end.

Workout: Doing arms today and looking forward to it. The pumps I've been getting are insane! I'm not to the point where I look like I'm "on something" but I'm sure in the next week or so when these esters start to really kick in, I'll be turning heads.

Energy/Sides/Mood: Love the energy that comes with this! I can't wait to lift everyday and once I am there it is all work and no play. I am flying through my workouts which normally take 1-1.5 hrs in like 45 min...I finish up and feel like I could keep going so I usually bang out a couple sets of pullups to get a good back pump before I leave.
No sides at all noticed yet and hopefully it stays that way. I know the esters are longer and take a while to achieve steady state but the only thing I see is my face is a bit oily at times but zero acne, zero aggression, and zero gyno. Maybe a little trouble sleeping and def sweat but those are minor things to me at least.

So I know this was a long one and I will try to keep them a bit shorter and include a pic or two in the future. Thanks for all the help so far!

 

[PharmaDoc]

Its the end of my 3rd week and things are starting to take off. I finished my week with shoulders and def killed them. I find that I don't want to leave the gym and just want to keep working whatever muscle I'm working that day! I know this isn't advised bc it leads to overtraining but the energy and strength make me want to keep going.

My weights haven't gone up like I stated earlier, maybe just a little but the reps are increasing and even the last few feel solid, unlike normally where I have to cheat to finish them out.

Shoulder day went like this: These are my typical weights so this will serve as my baseline, so hopefully after 10 weeks the weights will go way up!

1) Hammer strength Milt Press: Set 1 155lbs x 15; Set 2 175Lbs x 12; Set 3 195 x 8; Set 4 215lbs x 5 then drop set 125lbs x 10
2) Arnold Press: Set 1-55lb x 8; Set 2-55lb x 7
3) BB Upright Row Set 1-135lb x 12; Set 2-135lb x 10; Set 3-145lb x 8; Set 4-145lb x 6
4) DB Side Raises superset DB with Front Raises: 25lbs x 10 for all 3 sets
5) Smith Shrugs: Set 1-225lb x 30; Set 2-275lb x 20; Set 3-315lb x 10;
Set 4-315lb x 10 drop set 225lb x 20
6) DB Rear Delt: 25lb x 12 for 3 sets