numbness is hands

[xtreemrush]

hey bros, i am starting to get serious numbness in my hands. i wake up several times during the night with numbness and a fire feeling in my hands. They also go somewhat numb when i grip a pen or handlebars too hard.

Anyone experience this? Any ideas as to what it may be?

thanks 4 ur help!

 

[dirty]

what are you using?

 

[basskiller]

pinched nerve?????????

Get your doc to check that out......it can lead to some bad shit

 

[crimson coal]

Also are you using gloves when your pressin heavy weight? I have to use gloves or the same thing starts happening to my hands. I use to wake up every morning and couldnt feel my arms from the elbows to my palms in my ring fingers and pinkies. Some fucked up stuff it was.

 

[xtreemrush]

I finished last cycle at the beginning of May...Sus, Fina, D-bol, and ancillaries.

Also, my shoulder/lat area began atrophying real bad in April and has progressively gotten worse…feels like someone is trying to push down my arm when I raise it. Doc said I had some nerve damage to the Long Thoracic nerve. I don’t recall any injury, but…

Not sure if that is causing the numbness in the hands. I remember some other posts that bro’s had mentioning that happening. Related??

Has anyone ever heard or experienced this???

 

[MaxBiceps]

Symptoms are vague, but......

Could be poor circulation. happens to me when I'm on cycle. Maybe take an aspirin and see if that helps. Do some cardio too.

 

[RADAR]

I've got the same thing it comes & goes Carpel tunnel sympdrone! Read a paper i have to shake my hands to get the feeling back in them.....sometimes i have it bad..sometimes not!!! RADAR

 

[Rhinoceros]

Re: Symptoms are vague, but......

That happens to me occasionally and I' haven't done my first cycle yet! Only at night, sometimes I wake up 2-3 times and my hands are numb. I have no idea what it is.

Rhino

 

[MaxBiceps]

I've got the same thing it comes & goes Carpel tunnel sympdrone! Read a paper i have to shake my hands to get the feeling back in them.....sometimes i have it bad..sometimes not!!! RADAR

Could be that too. Do you do labor work for a living, like gripping heavy objects, (pulling your pud), etc??

 

[RADAR]

My job has gripping involved but its a 5 oz soldering iron(electronics) sometimes its bad then..other times painting or reading..but its not noticable lifting!!! RADAR

 

[ragin']

maybe poor circulation. are your hands cold while they're numb??

 

[DocJ]

I've got the same thing it comes & goes Carpel tunnel sympdrone! Read a paper i have to shake my hands to get the feeling back in them.....sometimes i have it bad..sometimes not!!! RADAR

It's not true carpal tunnel syndrome until you lose grip strength and I don't mean a little I mean can't grip a coffee mug without dropping it weakness.

Do you have any neck or upper back pain or stiffness?
If you do that could easily contribute to these symptoms.
Check for localized tender spots in your outer back area right where your rear delts start merging into your back. If you have some tender areas there that reproduce your symptoms you need to get someone to break up those adhesions in those muscles (massage therapist) because they could be causing nerve irritation.

Last thing this could be is thoracic outlet syndrome and if it is, yours isn't too bad yet so you should get checked out by a chiropractor soon.

Hope I helped....

 

[marky]

As I am typing this now, my hands are off and on going numb. Its 24/7 for me except when I'm training and slightly worse a couple of hours after. Reduction of water via diuretics help, but not completely. Its definitely
worse while cycling. My occupation and business involve
heavy use of my hands with lots of stress and torque on the wrists. So the problem is compounded by dumbell
lifting and pulling motions as my grip begins to fail. Thoracic Outlet Syndrome as well as Carpel Tunnel are possible diagnoses. Heres something I received regarding Thoracic:



Hey bros, the following is quoted from my post in response to the post re:arms falling asleep; "TOS results from the compression of the subclavian artery, vein, and/or brachial nerve plexus. This can happen as the neurovascular bundle passes through the scalene muscles. Another place is between the clavicle and the first rib. Chances are it is due to water retention or irritation in one of the muscles". It can also be trapped under pec minor. For most people it is mostly just an annoyance or discomfort, but I think for the Bros it could mean something else.
a) Since usually the subclavian artery is pinched. This means there is less blood getting to the arm muscles. This can result in increased rest times between sets, decreased muscle growth, and weakness due to the nerves of the arm not being able to fire as often.
b) It is usually aggravated by overhead work i.e. military press, incline press, skullcrushers etc. That's why people usually feel it after they have had their arms straight in front of them (like driving) or after doing stuff overhead (like hanging drywall on a ceiling, for instance). Sleeping on your side, or on your back with arms outstretched, often brings it on.
c) If it is caused by a misshapen clavicle, not much to be done for it. The causes that can be dealt with are tight pec minor and tight scalenus anterior muscles. A pec minor stretch can be found in most books on the subject. To stretch scalenus muscles, depress and retract your shoulders. Then, bend your neck sideways, like to make your ear touch your shoulder. Make sure not to "cheat" and let your shoulder elevate. Next, turn your head toward the same shoulder, keeping shoulders retracted and depressed, and bend forward at the neck like to touch your nose to your shoulder. Next, turn your head to the opposite shoulder and bend your neck back, like to look at the ceiling. All of these stretches should cause a tight stretching sensation in the muscles of the neck. Since you are trying to actually lengthen the muscles and not just reduce the tone, hold the stretches no less than a minute and do them several times a day
Here's my disclaimer; as with any medical concern, you should consult a medical professional (physical therapist in this case, since the pill pushers don't know jack about this). Stay huge. Peace!

 

[liftsiron]

You have carpel tunnel, get an emg to varify. Then go with the injections to take care of it. Hgh will really magnify the discomfort. Drugs that cause you to retain a lot of water will also make symptoms worse. There's little doubt as to what your problem is. See a doctor that is a hand specialist.

 

[DocJ]

You have carpel tunnel, get an emg to varify. Then go with the injections to take care of it. Hgh will really magnify the discomfort. Drugs that cause you to retain a lot of water will also make symptoms worse. There's little doubt as to what your problem is. See a doctor that is a hand specialist.

You need loss of grip strength to have true carpel tunnel syndrome. I'm 100% sure on this....

Also, injections don't do squat for 99.9% of my patients with CTS.

 

[liftsiron]

Doc you don't know what the hell that you are talking about. I had marked carpel tunnel syndrome in my right hand as varified by an emg. I recieved steroid injections per Mayo clinic recommendations, after the first injection I got amazing results, I got my fourth and final shot about four years ago. xtreemrush see a real doctor for your carpel before you try any of the voodoo that doc is running on about. And Doc no offense but you are either misinformed or a liar about steroid injections being ineffective. Do a little research on carpel tunnel before you start giving out misinformation, that is one of the reasons that people are often hesitant about going to chiropractors.

 

[SUST-MAN]

this happens to me every night.
i thought it might be bacause my muscles are too big and they are squeezing my veins....hehe
it always goes away when i am off...

 

[DocJ]

Doc you don't know what the hell that you are talking about. I had marked carpel tunnel syndrome in my right hand as varified by an emg. I recieved steroid injections per Mayo clinic recommendations, after the first injection I got amazing results, I got my fourth and final shot about four years ago. xtreemrush see a real doctor for your carpel before you try any of the voodoo that doc is running on about. And Doc no offense but you are either misinformed or a liar about steroid injections being ineffective. Do a little research on carpel tunnel before you start giving out misinformation, that is one of the reasons that people are often hesitant about going to chiropractors.

I could go into extreme anatomical detail about how you are absolutely incorrect in your "diagnosis" but I won't because I'm quite certain you wouldn't be able to follow along.

I've seen 100's of patients get no relief from these injections and in 2-3 treatments utilizing various active release techniques, their symptoms are virtually gone.

You may have had actual CTS but what I'm telling you is that this particular bro does not have CTS and that steroid injections do not work for patients the MAJORITY of the time especially ones that don't have CTS in the first place.

 

[xtreemrush]

Forgot to mention that I am having some severe "winging" in the scapula...when i raise my arms strait in front, the one blade grotesquely sticks out. This is what the doc (orthopedic doc) said was the Long Thoracic nerve damage. may or may not come back. This has resulted in the extreme atrophy of the lat. But there is relatively little pain. Only sometimes does the back muscles in that area hurt.

What I am really worried about is that the gear may have in some way caused this. There was not any injury per se, just one day noticed that I couldnt raise arm well and tiny lat.

I have been off the gear for 2 months. It has not gotten any better. In fact, it has progressively gotten worse. I am even afraid to do any type of upper-body W/O for fear of irritating it more.

I had an MRI and EMG done. MRI showed no impingement and rotater cuff fully in-tact. The EMG did show CTS (but that was not really that bad) and the Thoracic Nerve damage/injury.

Also, I really DO appreciate the help, advice, and support of all the Bro's!!

 

[liftsiron]

Xtreemrush you have the same problems with your hands that I had, I could not even sleep at night the fingers and hands always going numb. Writing with an ink pen became almost impossible. I will bet that your thumb and the first two fingers of each hand bother you the most. Try the injections from a hand specialist, you won't be sorry. They start to work in hours.

 

[liftsiron]

Well Docj it appears that xtreemrush does have cts according to an emg. As far as me being unable to understand extreme antomical detail, My meager education does include a B.S. in human biology, a M.S. in exercise physiology, NASM certifacation, an also I do have a P.H.D. but it is in an unrelated field.

 

[DocJ]

Well Docj it appears that xtreemrush does have cts according to an emg. As far as me being unable to understand extreme antomical detail, My meager education does include a B.S. in human biology, a M.S. in exercise physiology, NASM certifacation, an also I do have a P.H.D. but it is in an unrelated field.

My points were these:

a. that it was very unlikely that he had CTS and the EMG showing that he had it "not that bad" is completely subjective, one M.D. might say he has is and one might say he doesn't.

b. in order to have TRUE CTS you need grip weakness as it is anatomically IMPOSSIBLE to have CTS without that loss of strength.

c. that injections don't work the MAJORITY of the time. i see this everyday in my clinic. i'm curious, how many supposed CTS patients have you treated?.....that's what I thought.

If you're trying to discredit me somehow on this board, you are engaging in a losing battle my friend.......

 

[liftsiron]

I will post no more on this subject, Peace