NPP dosage amounts

[SlimJim300]

Right but the blood level of this repeated dosing would not be the same. That's my point. By the 6th week your blood levels would be nearly twice as high with deca as with NPP.

I disagree. Even though NPP levels stabilize fast, and deca levels continue to rise for several weeks, you have to remember -- blood levels of each start at zero. If you inject 700mg/week of something, blood levels cannot become greater than (the equivalent of) 700mg, no matter how long you let them build up. In this case, by week 6 you have injected a total of 4200mg of either NPP or deca. Just because most of the NPP has dissolved into the blood, and more of the deca has "built up" -- it doesn't mean the deca has built up in the BLOOD. The portion that is "building up" is still esterified, and waiting in the muscle for release. Eventually, the rate that the esters break down equals the rate that you inject more steroid. At this point, blood levels are stable, and blood concentrations will be equal, whether using NPP or deca. This is assuming the weight of the esters is equal, in which case more mg of deca is actually needed to equal the same amount of base steroid in NPP (because the weight of the ester in deca is greater than the weight of the ester in NPP, more is needed to provide the same amount of base steroid). Also, you can't dwell on the fact that fewer mgs of deca can potentially produce more size gains than NPP. Because the ester waits around in the muscle longer, it has more time to artomitize than NPP. The additional size gains from deca are due to estrogen.

 

[jagerbombme]

I disagree. Even though NPP levels stabilize fast, and deca levels continue to rise for several weeks, you have to remember -- blood levels of each start at zero. If you inject 700mg/week of something, blood levels cannot become greater than (the equivalent of) 700mg, no matter how long you let them build up. In this case, by week 6 you have injected a total of 4200mg of either NPP or deca. Just because most of the NPP has dissolved into the blood, and more of the deca has "built up" -- it doesn't mean the deca has built up in the BLOOD. The portion that is "building up" is still esterified, and waiting in the muscle for release. Eventually, the rate that the esters break down equals the rate that you inject more steroid. At this point, blood levels are stable, and blood concentrations will be equal, whether using NPP or deca. This is assuming the weight of the esters is equal, in which case more mg of deca is actually needed to equal the same amount of base steroid in NPP (because the weight of the ester in deca is greater than the weight of the ester in NPP, more is needed to provide the same amount of base steroid). Also, you can't dwell on the fact that fewer mgs of deca can potentially produce more size gains than NPP. Because the ester waits around in the muscle longer, it has more time to artomitize than NPP. The additional size gains from deca are due to estrogen.

good post. makes perfect sense

 

[Bilwil]

Good post, but I am still confused. I know I have to run Deca at a lower dosage than test, but what about with NPP? If I want to run 600mg a week of cyp on my next cycle how much NPP should I run with it?

This current cycle is

1-12 Cyp 250mg twice a week
1-10 Deca 200mg twice a week
1-4 DBol 37.5mg ed
8-12 anavar 50mg ed
long term HGH 4IU ed

I am planning on going back to 200mg week of cyp for at least 12 weeks when this is over and then starting another cycle. I would like to repeat the cycle, but try it with NPP, just not sure about dose. I may also try using TBol instead of the DBol.

Thanks!

Bill

 

[acneman]

I disagree. Even though NPP levels stabilize fast, and deca levels continue to rise for several weeks, you have to remember -- blood levels of each start at zero. If you inject 700mg/week of something, blood levels cannot become greater than (the equivalent of) 700mg, no matter how long you let them build up. In this case, by week 6 you have injected a total of 4200mg of either NPP or deca. Just because most of the NPP has dissolved into the blood, and more of the deca has "built up" -- it doesn't mean the deca has built up in the BLOOD. The portion that is "building up" is still esterified, and waiting in the muscle for release. Eventually, the rate that the esters break down equals the rate that you inject more steroid. At this point, blood levels are stable, and blood concentrations will be equal, whether using NPP or deca. This is assuming the weight of the esters is equal, in which case more mg of deca is actually needed to equal the same amount of base steroid in NPP (because the weight of the ester in deca is greater than the weight of the ester in NPP, more is needed to provide the same amount of base steroid). Also, you can't dwell on the fact that fewer mgs of deca can potentially produce more size gains than NPP. Because the ester waits around in the muscle longer, it has more time to artomitize than NPP. The additional size gains from deca are due to estrogen.[/QUOTE]
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eventually yes but few will run those steroids long enough
however as i stated before the amounts will be close within 6 weeks

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i dont believe this is accurate
i think the hormone must be out of ester to aromatise

overall pretty good post and in support of my position
still waitin on a spread sheet or an admission of a mistake made