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Now that SARS has reached US soil what does the Gov/CDC have in store for you?

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It's almost as if SARS and The State Emergency Health Powers Act are from a bad movie! And the bad movie was Outbreak! 9/11 sure did open a Pandora's box! Will SARS, Anthrax, West Nile, Ebola be the trigger! Or will it be another virus or biological weapon altogether! I'll spare you of the frightening details! Proceed at your own risk, if you dare!

The State Emergency Health Powers Act!

http://www.cdc.gov/

Like this is going to work! Here we come Health Powers Act! Homeland Security or Keystone Cops?
Health Alert Notice for International Travelers
 
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Not going to worry....

The forces of Hell are about to break loose. Coincidene it all happens at the same time (more or less) as our going into Iraq?

I don't think so.

In any case....most of what's going to happen is beyond our control. I'll just beat the heck out of the next jerk to sneeze on me. :FRlol:
 
given the 4% fatality rates, probably quarintines and prosecution for those that break it. if the fatality rate wa higher you can guarantee there would be a soldier that would own your ass if u broke quarintine

nice to know the maners of society have been ebbed away stateside and that everyone seems to think coughing and sneezing on others is A.O.K. as well :mad:
 
China's Solution! Will the US, Europe do the same?

Hong Kong sends Sars victims to isolation camps

By Nigel Hawkes, Health Editor
timesonline
April 02, 2003


HONG KONG moved more than 200 residents of a block of flats into isolation camps last night after an outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome (Sars).

The rapid spread of Sars through Block E of the Amoy Gardens housing complex in Kowloon has sent alarm around the world because it suggests that the virus responsible can be spread by air or water.

The World Health Organisation (WHO) said yesterday that “bodily secretions” containing the virus might somehow enter common systems that link rooms or flats.

Of the 213 Amoy residents found to be infected by Sars, 107 live in Block E, most of them in flats that are one above the other.

A link is being made to the pattern of transmission at the Metropole Hotel, also in Kowloon, where people on the ninth floor were infected, in turn spreading Sars to Toronto and Singapore and starting the outbreak at the Prince of Wales Hospital in Hong Kong. Leung Pak-yin, the Deputy Director of Health in Hong Kong, said that putting Amoy Gardens residents into isolation camps would protect them and enable health officials to investigate the cause of the infections in the building.

A Health Ministry spokeswoman said yesterday that 108 flats were subject to the original isolation order, but that the authorities had little information on the whereabouts of tenants from another 156 flats who are thought to have fled, prompting fears that the quarantine action would have little effect in slowing the epidemic’s spread. The Government is looking for the missing tenants.

The syndrome continues to spread. Indonesia announced its first three suspected cases yesterday, while others were also reported in Australia, Malaysia, Thailand and Sweden. Sixty-six people have died from the disease worldwide, and almost 1,900 people have been infected in 22 countries.

Two more people have died in Canada, bringing the total to six and making the country the hardest hit by the outbreak outside of Asia. Margot Geduld, a Canadian Health Ministry spokeswoman, said a total of 129 probable cases had been detected.

Hong Kong is one of the worst hit areas, with 685 cases, 75 of them reported yesterday, and 16 deaths.

The nearby Chinese province of Guangdong, where the disease is thought to have originated, possibly from animals, has reported 800 cases and 34 deaths.

“We have no plan to declare Hong Kong an infected area,” Margaret Chan, the Director of Health, told reporters. “We have adequate supplies to provide the needs of Hong Kong citizens and there is no need for any panic run on food.”

In Australia, health officials said that a man who had recently returned from Singapore had become the country’s first likely case but had made a full recovery after being admitted to a hospital in Sydney.

In Malaysia, Mohamad Taha Arif, the Director-General of the Health Ministry, was quoted as saying that eight people with suspected symptoms had been admitted to hospital.

Advice to those planning to travel to the Far East remains contradictory. American health authorities advised citizens planning non-essential travel to mainland China, Hong Kong, Singapore or Hanoi to postpone their trips. The State Department said that the Government would pay for US diplomats and their families to leave China and Hong Kong, The Foreign and Commonwealth Office was yesterday recommending no restrictions on travel, saying that all travellers should be aware of the symptoms and should seek urgent medical advice if they developed them.
 
Re: Not going to worry....

Baby Gorilla said:
The forces of Hell are about to break loose. Coincidene it all happens at the same time (more or less) as our going into Iraq?

I don't think so.
You've been watching too much CNN.
 
they hve used immonglobulins from recovered patients serum to treat sick ones

hope yet! :)

and some say this won't be a global epidemic.....thouh we have been due an bad-ass influenza for a while now
 
If you're from Singapore, wear a mask

straitstimes.asia1.com

BANGKOK - Thailand yesterday ordered all foreigners from Sars-hit countries to wear masks at all times or face a fine of 10,000 baht ($417) or up to six months in jail.

Public Health Minister Sudarat Keyuraphan told a news conference that visitors from Singapore, mainland China, Hongkong, Taiwan and Vietnam would be screened on arrival and anyone with Sars symptoms would be deported immediately.


'Those without symptoms who are allowed to enter must wear masks at all times,' she added.

Thai residents returning from Singapore, Vietnam, Hongkong, mainland China and Taiwan must stay at home for 14 days, cannot go to school or work and must avoid close contact with friends and relatives.

At Changi airport last night, Bangkok-bound travellers approached by The Straits Times did not know about the new rules and had not been told when they checked in.

'I am quite surprised that you have to wear a mask for the whole day, but I am prepared,' said engineer Ang See Lin, 33, pointing to the masks in his bag.

Thailand's new measures came as Sars claimed a second victim, a 78-year-old man from Hongkong who died in Haadyai, near the Malaysian border, on Tuesday night.

He was visiting relatives, and 20 of them are now quarantined.

One quarantine unit has been set up at Bhumibol hospital near Bangkok's international airport. Another hospital has been designated exclusively for Sars patients.

-- Nirmal Ghosh, Thailand Correspondent, with additional reporting by Sherwin Loh in Singapore
 
DcupSheepNipples said:


Two more people have died in Canada, bringing the total to six and making the country the hardest hit by the outbreak outside of Asia.



probably died while waiting in line...

socialized medicine...:rolleyes:
 
If you think about how many Chinamen there are it was only a matter of time before mother nature tried to control a population the excedes the carrying capacity.
 
Am i the only one that thinks that this SARS issue is exaggerated?

Possibly, but the power grab(Exective Order, False Quarintines) and economic damage (Travel, Airliners, Hotels etc) is for real!


Bush Order Allows Quarantine of Pneumonia Cases

Reuters
Friday, April 4, 2003; 4:26 PM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush issued an executive order on Friday allowing the forced quarantine of patients with a mysterious new illness that has killed 80 people, as well as patients with other diseases such as Ebola.

The order allows the Health and Human Services secretary to decide when such a quarantine is needed.

It calls for the "apprehension, detention or conditional release of individuals to prevent the introduction, transmission or spread of suspected communicable diseases."

It names Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, which has affected a suspected 115 people in the United States and 2,400 worldwide, killing around 80.

The order also names cholera, diphtheria, infectious tuberculosis, plague, smallpox, yellow fever and viral hemorrhagic fevers such as Ebola, Lassa and Marburg.
 
Heard of the news this morning that there was a case of it in Weschester, NY. About 1:30 from me... which is kinda nuts. The lady who had it was a 75year-old lady who recently came from china.
 
DcupSheepNipples said:


Possibly, but the power grab(Exective Order, False Quarintines) and economic damage (Travel, Airliners, Hotels etc) is for real!


The order also names cholera, diphtheria, infectious tuberculosis, plague, smallpox, yellow fever and viral hemorrhagic fevers such as Ebola, Lassa and Marburg.

SARS does not even come close to any of these diseases as far as i have heard so far. There was exactly one case so far over here and this guy survived.
It´s probably more dangerous than the average lung infection, but it´s nowhere close to being a threat.

The media just found something that was easily turned into a good headline, something like "the killer disease is out to get you and everyone you love" and "is it a biological terrorist attack?" .

I´m not going to let myself scare by this kind of media reporting, everydays traffic is a much bigger threat to my life than this disease.
 
SARS is scary

I'm writing from Singapore and dare say tt this SARS epidemic is totally out of control.....be prepared, it'll probably spread to USA soon...

Juz a cough will do..

cheers
 
Inspectors Admit Asian Travelers With SARS Symptoms
No SARS Safeguards At US Airports For Incoming Passengers

By Paul Sperry
WorldNetDaily.com
4-8-3

WASHINGTON -- U.S. health officials have advised airport immigration inspectors to admit foreign travelers from Asian countries hit hard by a deadly new pneumonia bug ö even if they show symptoms of infection, U.S. inspectors complain.

"A good 90 percent of all passengers arriving from Asia are wearing face masks during the flights that arrive here," said a Bureau of Customs and Border Protection inspector at Los Angeles International Airport, which gets heavy Asian traffic. "Yet there are basically no safeguards set up at the airport to safeguard against the spread of germs here."

He told WorldNetDaily that LAX, the nation's fourth-busiest airport, has no quarantine area set up at any of its four international terminals to detain and isolate passengers with symptoms related to Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, or SARS, which has now killed more than 100 people and infected some 2,600 in 20 countries. China's southern Guangdong province, which includes Hong Kong, is believed to be the source of the virus, which has about an eight-to-10-day incubation period.

"We are not detaining any persons and requiring them to submit to any test prior to being admitted to the United States," said the officer. In a meeting last week, he and other inspectors were briefed about the fast-spreading virus by Health and Human Services Department officials assigned to LAX.

Travelers from Asia with signs of the illness, such as fever or breathing difficulties, are asked by federal health officials at the airport to fill out a form with their name and the address where they will be staying, as well as other information, he explains. They are then simply advised to see a doctor for testing, and allowed to enter the U.S.

The information is forwarded to the federal Centers for Disease Control.

"The are doing a numbers game only," the LAX inspector said.

CDC personnel have inspected certain flights from Asia after passengers have deplaned, he says.

"But there has been no instance where anyone has been detained or isolated due to any symptoms," he said.

An HHS spokeswoman here referred questions to the CDC in Atlanta, which did not immediately return phone calls.

A U.S. immigration officer at O'Hare International Airport in Chicago, the nation's busiest, says a Chinese passenger recently was detained there after exhibiting signs of SARS, but was released after health officials determined that she was not infected with the virus. <http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30903>O'Hare over the past year has seen a surge in undocumented nationals from mainland China.

"She apparently just had a cold," the officer told WorldNetDaily.

He says public health officials have met Asian passengers at the gates to quiz them about symptoms they may be experiencing, while handing out information about SARS and local clinics.

Authorities in Thailand, in contrast, have subjected all foreign travelers, including Americans, to medical examinations upon entering airports there, while imposing strict quarantines on travelers diagnosed with SARS.

Airport authorities there and in other Asian countries have started wearing surgical gloves and masks.

Federal inspectors at O'Hare are wearing neither protective gear, but LAX inspectors have been advised by federal health officials to wear gloves while handling passports and other documents.

"We were told to wash our hands frequently and to wear gloves in the handling of documents," he said.

However, "we are not allowed to wear face masks during an inspection," based on orders from immigration supervisors, he added.

The SARS virus is believed to be spread by air, through coughing and sneezing, as well as by contact.

"We were told under no circumstances would we be allowed to wear face masks while in uniform," he said. "If someone coughs or spits up, we were told to call the floor rover or supervisor and have that person escorted to Public Health."

In lieu of the masks, a few inspectors have purchased small table fans to direct air away from their booths, he says.

Though still a medical mystery, SARS has a relatively low death rate of 4 percent. By comparison, at least a quarter of a million people around the world die from the common flu each year.
 
Who to believe? Cover up by China and the WHO? Or Mother Nature thining out world population?

The Atypical Pneumonia Virus Has Been Created
Artificially Says Scientist Sergei Kolesnikov

By Alexander Batalin
RIA Novosti correspondent
4-10-3

IRKUTSK --The virus of atypical pneumonia has been created artificially, possibly as a bacteriological weapon, believes Sergei Kolesnikov, Academician of the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences.

He expressed this opinion at a news conference in Irkutsk (Siberia) on Thursday.

According to him, the virus of atypical pneumonia is a synthesis of two viruses (of measles and infectious parotiditis or mumps), the natural compound of which is impossible. This can be done only in a laboratory, the academician is convinced. He also said that in creating bacteriological weapons a protective anti-viral vaccine is, as a rule, worked out at the same time. Therefore, the scientist believes, a medicine for atypical pneumonia may soon appear. He does not exclude that the spread of the virus could have begun accidentally, as a result of "an unsanctioned leakage" from a laboratory.
http://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm
 
why the low fatality rate? if its a weapon its a shit one, unless you wanna just make everyone walking wounded....

the chinese government has recently released info showing the first infected were bird handlers and chefs/kitchen staff (who work with dead birds presumably)

and a chinese scientist alledges that the chinese givernment has lied about the infection and fatality rates in china :mad:....that government seems more concerned with saving face
 
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