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Report: Bonds Admitted Using Substances
Friday, December 03, 2004

•Giambi's Reported Steroid Use May Cost Him •BALCO Head: Marion Jones Took Steroids•Giambi Told Grand Jury He Used Steroids•BALCO Founder: Marion Jones Used Steroids•Testimony Could Cost Giambi Millions•Judge Won't Dismiss BALCO Steroid Charges


SAN FRANCISCO — Baseball player Barry Bonds (search) told a federal grand jury that he used a clear substance and a cream given to him by a trainer who was indicted in a steroid-distribution ring but denied knowing they were steroids, according to a report published Friday.

Bonds, the San Francisco Giants slugger, testified last year that Greg Anderson (search), his personal trainer, told him that the substances he used in 2003 were the nutritional supplement flaxseed oil and a rubbing balm for arthritis, according to a transcript of his testimony reviewed by the San Francisco Chronicle.

Click to read the San Francisco Chronicle report.

The substances Bonds described were similar to ones known as "the clear" and "the cream," two steroids from the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative (search), the lab at the center of the steroid scandal.

Grand jury transcripts are sealed and the newspaper did not say who showed it the documents. Bonds' attorney, Michael Rains, said the leak was an attempt to smear his client.

"My view has always been this case has been the U.S. vs. Bonds, and I think the government has moved in certain ways in a concerted effort to indict my client," Rains told the newspaper. "And I think their failure to indict him has resulted in their attempts to smear him publicly."


Calls to Rains' office from The Associated Press went unanswered Thursday night.

Tony Serra, Anderson's lawyer, said Anderson "never knowingly provided illegal substances to anyone."

The Chronicle story is the latest development this week in the more-than-yearlong BALCO probe. On Thursday, the paper reported Yankees slugger Jason Giambi (search) told the grand jury he injected himself with human growth hormone in 2003 and also used steroids for at least three seasons.

Giambi's reported testimony might lead the New York club to terminate his $120 million contract and allow baseball commissioner Bud Selig (search) to discipline him.

Before the Bonds story was even published, U.S. Attorney Kevin Ryan said his office was concerned about the leaks to the Chronicle and asked the Justice Department to investigate.

Also, ABC News and ESPN the Magazine released excerpts of interviews with Victor Conte, in which the BALCO founder admits to watching Olympic star Marion Jones inject herself in the leg with human growth hormone. Jones' attorneys denied she ever used performance-enhancing drugs. Conte's interview with ABC's "20/20" program airs Friday night.

The head of the International Olympic Committee (search), Jacques Rogge, said he was aware of Conte's allegations.

"I hope the truth will emerge," Rogge said Friday in Dubrovnik, Croatia, where he is attending a meeting of the European Olympic Committees. "We want the truth. We want to know what happened and the more we know the better."

Dozens of elite athletes testified before the grand jury last year, including baseball stars Bonds, Giambi and Gary Sheffield, and track stars Jones, Tim Montgomery and Kelli White.

The probe led to some athletes being banned from the Olympics and left a cloud of suspicion over others, such as Jones, who were allowed to compete despite the investigation.

But Bonds is the biggest star of all, the holder of baseball's single-season home run record of 73 in 2001 and the man who could break Hank Aaron's career homer mark of 755 as early as next year.

Bonds ended last season with 703 homers and won his record seventh Most Valuable Player award. It is uncertain whether these admissions will taint his legacy.

It is uncertain what punishment, if any, Bonds could receive from baseball, which didn't have penalties for steroid use until last year.

While discipline is spelled out for positive tests and criminal convictions from 2003 on, admission of illegal steroid use is not addressed, possibly giving Selig an opening to punish Bonds.

Selig repeatedly has called for year-round random testing and harsher penalties, but management and the players' association have failed to reach an agreement. The contract runs through the 2006 season.

"I've been saying for many months: I instituted a very, very tough program in the minor leagues on steroids in 2001. We need to have that program at the major league level," Selig said Thursday in Washington, D.C. "We're going to leave no stone unturned until we have that policy in place by spring training 2005."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,140378,00.html
 
WHO CARES???????????????????????????

People saying his records are now tainted..........horseshit............AAS did not turn him from a no-one, to one of the top 5 ever.........just doesnt work that way....he STILL hand to train and work his ass off...........I feel for Giambi....he will burn for this......
 
I know guys...there's so much bullshit behind those laws...it could be different. But there are some interests behind all this steroids propaganda
 
satchboogie said:
pete rose got the short hand of the stick..
bonds wont!
different ballpark bro......ROse bet on baseball, when he had the power to control games.....he should have been banned for tarnishing the game, however, it doesnt take away from the GREAT player he was.......
 
pete rose was a legend..
i still dont think its justified to not allow him in the hall of fame.

my point is..
bonds wont get more than a slap on the wrist even if he's found to have used 10g test per day.
 
This is so "late to the party" that the points they make are moot. If you're going to talk about taking away titles and stats from players that may have used steroids how far back do they want to peel this. Are they going to go back 14 years and take Conseco's MVP away? Steroids have been a part of baseball for over 20 years. It's not like it just snuck up on anyone. It's just something to fill the headlines with and it's stupid.
 
PLUS, they have no idea if Mays used.........who knows............Rose was an asshole, but he was a legend and should be in the Hall...........Bonds will get nothing except for a bruised eye from all the fans that think AAS is soooo evil, which is a good majority. Giambi will attempt to be sanctioned by Selig, but it'll never fly........if they only knew how many pro athletes used, their jaws would drop............
 
JKurz1 said:
if they only knew how many pro athletes used, their jaws would drop............

i would say no less than 90% of baseball players have used steroids at least one time.

jump to football and that number is about 98%.
 
gotta give giambi credit for growing some balls os stell to come straight out and sya what he did I mena it doesn't make any os this crap lokk any better still in MLB there is so fine or penalty for being caught using steriods becasue they ahve not renewed the players agreement it might not help giambi but he will still play baseball but bonds will never come out and admit it he is going to have the greatest thing in the world records I mean who the hell in ther right mind would say umm ya actually i did no one he still by far is one of the greatest people to ever ever play the game
 
damn I hate the media, always making a big deal about something they have always known for years, in order for you to become better you need to train, eat right, get proper rest, AAS is not a miracle cure to become a better athlete. AAS been in sports FOREVER!

Most of AAS usage is misunderstood.... Besides, wtf cares about Bonds using AAS, not me! More power and props to him!!!

Latin
 
ya now victor conte is giving names in this 20/20 interview, i expect there will be a big shit storm in the near future, he has already mentioned marion jones....and im sure there will be more. what an asshole for blowing them in, its just going to cause more problems and further our beloved steroids bad rep with the public.
 
Funny how doctors have no problem doping guys up with painkillers so they can go out and play another down. Hypocracy.

And I din't see the media making this big of a deal when Lernard Little killed a mother drunk driving. Then got another dui the next year.
 
Who doubts that George Bush put steroids back on the front page of the news papers? I'm amazed to see how many people that surf these types of boards couldn't get enough of GWB. You reap what you sow.
 
the media always feeds on negativity, Bad news sells, just look at where I am in Iraq, you never hear the good shit that happens here, just the bad shit. most pro athletes have used, or are using. who cares....I dont, I still like going to football games, I still like watching baseball, even if the yanks blew a 3 game to nothing lead in the ALCS. this media coverage will eventually die down.
 
xsylancexx said:
the media always feeds on negativity, Bad news sells, just look at where I am in Iraq, you never hear the good shit that happens here, just the bad shit. most pro athletes have used, or are using. who cares....I dont, I still like going to football games, I still like watching baseball, even if the yanks blew a 3 game to nothing lead in the ALCS. this media coverage will eventually die down.
Good luck to you in Iraq. Come home safe. I have to tell you though, watching the Yanks blow a 3 game to nothing lead was priceless.
 
The worst part of the Bonds situation is him saying he didn't know he was using Steroids. I guess being the average size that he was for so long and then jumping up to the size he is now was credited to just a good diet? C'mon, what a joke. Look at this rookie card and compare it to his current cards, it doesn't take a genius to figure out what was going on, but it obviously takes an idiot to deny it! And BTW, props to Satch.......Rose is undoubtedly one of the top 10 and maybe top 5 talented players of all time and should be in the Hall no matter what!!!
 
JKurz1 said:
WHO CARES???????????????????????????

People saying his records are now tainted..........horseshit............AAS did not turn him from a no-one, to one of the top 5 ever.........just doesnt work that way....he STILL hand to train and work his ass off


True, but despite being an all star player, Bonds was at best a 30 homerun hitter nearing the end of his career. Then out of nowhere he's belting out 60-70+ a year. And its not just Bonds, you can look at Sosa, Mcguire, and many others.

Not that it even matters, cause there has never been a steroid testing program in baseball. You cant penalize people for doing stuff that wasn't against the rules.
 
WolfPack Charlie said:
The worst part of the Bonds situation is him saying he didn't know he was using Steroids. I guess being the average size that he was for so long and then jumping up to the size he is now was credited to just a good diet? C'mon, what a joke. Look at this rookie card and compare it to his current cards, it doesn't take a genius to figure out what was going on, but it obviously takes an idiot to deny it! And BTW, props to Satch.......Rose is undoubtedly one of the top 10 and maybe top 5 talented players of all time and should be in the Hall no matter what!!!

He had the deny it to keep face with the public.
 
i think there all pussies for opening there mouths they all knew what they were doing and the consiquebces now that the shit hit the fan everyone wants to point out the other person rather than face the consiquences
 
wellbilt said:
i think there all pussies for opening there mouths they all knew what they were doing and the consiquebces now that the shit hit the fan everyone wants to point out the other person rather than face the consiquences
they were under oath bro........I know, I know.....but still...........they woulda got nailed for purgy, as their "source" ratted them out anyways...........
 
The Greatest said:
He had the deny it to keep face with the public.

Bullshit, he denied it to save his bank account. Do you think that Barry gives a rats ass about anything other than not being allowed to play. His admission of ignorance is a blatant attempt to keep himself in the game. It was just a matter of time before he was named, why not beat them to the punch by saying "Duh...I didn't know that i was using! i just thought that flax seed oil made me this big!"
 
easy said:
I started drinking 4 gallons of flaxseed oil a day..lol...
I almost fell out of my chair when I heard that....umm...he told me it was flax seed oil, so I took it............umm Barry..........they fucking sell flax seed at the grocery you idiot......check the price.....it doesnt cost $500-600 for 6 weeks you idiot............just suck it up and say I used roids....who the fuck cares.....you're still the greatest or one of...........hands down.
 
If steroids don't help athletes then why do they risk the side-effects if It doesn't help them become better??? Winstrol for example, makes your fast twitch muscles faster so you can run to the side easier and do other training easier, they definetly help! Steroids help the guys drive the ball farther cause they have more power also.
 
Steroids help them. Bonds was a good player. Right. But then, one day the guy started hitting homeruns like never before. Same with Sosa. They went from A- to A+ players. Otherwise, why waste time, money and risk your health just for remaining the same player ?
 
WolfPack Charlie said:
The worst part of the Bonds situation is him saying he didn't know he was using Steroids. I guess being the average size that he was for so long and then jumping up to the size he is now was credited to just a good diet? C'mon, what a joke. Look at this rookie card and compare it to his current cards, it doesn't take a genius to figure out what was going on, but it obviously takes an idiot to deny it! And BTW, props to Satch.......Rose is undoubtedly one of the top 10 and maybe top 5 talented players of all time and should be in the Hall no matter what!!!

He has gotten bigger, but his rookie year was '86; that was nearly 20 years ago! Lots can happen in 20 years from a good diet:RADAR . But yeah, you can tell his is on the juice! :inflate:
 
as a sidenote...

short and light bat = bat speed.
bat speed = more time to see the ball before committing to the pitch.
more time to see the ball before committing to the pitch + strength = home runs.
 
I think it should all come out the ones that have been tested and caught in the olympics are called cheats....is not far for them all that hard work they are doing the same as everyone else.... but if they could really stop the steroids....completly it would be fun to see how people react when all the athelets become smaller...slower...and boaring to watch......
 
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