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Ok guys..appreciate the help and have takin all your guys advice into consideration..As you all know, I am 20 years of age and have done 4 cycles allready (wouldn't include first one because i wasn't on elite yet which meant i didn't know anything)
I am ready to do my 5th and was really planning on hitting it hard for BIG GAINS.....I have decided that I really dont want to use Dballs because I hate the sides so i am ganna use a killer front load if possible...well not a killer but here is the cycle and I hope you guys agree with this!!!

Weeks***Sust***Deca***Winny*******Clen***HCG
1--------1250mgs--600mgs------------------------------------
2--------1250mgs--600mgs------------------------------------
3---------750mgs--400mgs-------------------------------------
4---------750mgs--400mgs-------------------------------------
5---------750mgs--400mgs--50mgs EOD---------------------
6---------750mgs--400mgs--50mgs EOD---------------------
7---------750mgs--400mgs--50mgs EOD------------10,000IUS
8---------750mgs--400mgs--50mgs EOD---------------------
9---------750mgs--400mgs--50mgs EOD---------------------
10-------750mgs--400mgs--50mgs EOD---------------------
11-------------------400mgs--50mgs EOD---------------------
12-------------------400mgs--50mgs EOD---------------------
13---------------------------------------------------on------------
14---------------------------------------------------on------------
15-------------------------------------------------------------------
16--300mgs first day / 100mgs clomid---------------5,000IUS
17----------100mgs clomid ED------------------on-----5,000IUS
18------------50mgs Clomid ED-----------------on-------------
19------------50mgs Clomid ED---------------------------------
20-------------------------------------------------------------------
21---------------------------------------------------on-------------
22---------------------------------------------------on-------------
23-------------------------------------------------------------------
24-------------------------------------------------------------------
26---------------------------------------------------on-------------
27---------------------------------------------------on-------------
28-------------------------------------------------------------------
29-------------------------------------------------------------------
30---------------------------------------------------on-------------
31---------------------------------------------------on-------------
32----Can i please start a cycle around this week?-------
33-------------------------------------------------------------------
34---------------------------------------------------on-------------
35---------------------------------------------------on-------------
 
Looks like a damn good cycle bro! I'd cut out the hcg post cycle. I'd also cut a week off of the clomid, run it for 3 weeks not four.

And why are you stopping the sust before the deca? why not just run the sust 12 weeks also?

I'd go with either 50mg/ED or 25mg/ED for the winny depending on how much you have. But definately go with ED doses.

Are you gonna run an ECA in between clen weeks?

Other than that everything looks well planned! Good Luck Bro!


B-10
 
what bulldog said especially the part with winny, I hope your last cycle was close to this big cycle, you should only jump up around 200mg more a week each cycle to see how your body responds, you may be using too much gear.
 
wow!! I actually finally planned something right!! but guys, how come I shouldn't take the HCG post cycle? also, considering I am not going to take Dballs, thats why i was going to go for the front load for a nice kick...can i take hcg during the cycle also to maintain somewhat natural levels and keep my balls at a nice decent size considering they are all ready shriviled up enough. (if this makes sense)..Also when can i start a CUTTING cycle within those weeks?? sure, i'll take some ECA between the clen weeks..

Thankyou very much for your time and effort and will use your knowledge to benefit myself.

instead of doing a bridge actually, is there any natural supplements from GNC that would help? or would it just help there company by draining my wallet?
 
HCG in the middle of the cycle is fine. Clomid should be fine by itself for post-cycle. If you were running arimidex the whole way through that would be even better. I'd say you can start a cutting cycle like you planned (week 32).

Maybe get some creatine for in between cycles. Other than that, I think you're all set Bro!
 
why thankyou very much bulldog, you have put a big smile on my face knowing that i finally did something right...well forget about the HCG now post cycle, but how about if i took the hcg The last week of taking androgens and in the middle of the week? also, how much HCG do i take in the middle of the week with the split and the last week if i can take it? yes i am taking ECA between clean and i will defenilty take your offer on the creatine idea..anyways..does this look better? HCG split up of course..and I will move up to 50mgs ED if you think i need it? and by the way about the arimidex...I am taking 1 tab of proviron and 10mgs of nolv starting day 1 till first day of clomids!!!



Weeks***Sust***Deca***Winny*******Clen***HCG
1--------1250mgs--600mgs------------------------------------
2--------1250mgs--600mgs------------------------------------
3---------750mgs--400mgs-------------------------------------
4---------750mgs--400mgs-------------------------------------
5---------750mgs--400mgs--25mgs ED---------------------
6---------750mgs--400mgs--25mgs ED---------------------
7---------750mgs--400mgs--25mgs ED------------10,000IUS
8---------750mgs--400mgs--25mgs ED---------------------
9---------750mgs--400mgs--25mgs ED---------------------
10-------750mgs--400mgs--25mgs ED---------------------
11-------500mgs--400mgs--25mgs ED---------------------
12-------500mgs--400mgs--25mgs ED------------10,000IUS
13---------------------------------------------------on------------
14---------------------------------------------------on------------
15-------------------------------------------------------------------
16--300mgs first day / 100mgs clomid-----------------------
17----------100mgs clomid ED------------------on-------------
18------------50mgs Clomid ED-----------------on-------------
19-------------------------------------------------------------------
20-------------------------------------------------------------------
21---------------------------------------------------on-------------
22---------------------------------------------------on-------------
23-------------------------------------------------------------------
24-------------------------------------------------------------------
26---------------------------------------------------on-------------
27---------------------------------------------------on-------------
28-------------------------------------------------------------------
29-------------------------------------------------------------------
30---------------------------------------------------on-------------
31---------------------------------------------------on-------------
32----New cycle starts whatever it will be------------------
33-------------------------------------------------------------------
34---------------------------------------------------on-------------
35---------------------------------------------------on-------------
 
Thank you Big Andy, is there anything that should be changed or am i set to go? by the way i am taking 1 proviron and 10mgs of nolv starting day 1!!
 
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