Novice Cycle--Help!?!?

[pith]

Ok, guys. I've been researching doing my first cycle. I'm 26 and optimally, would like to gain about 20-25lbs. I'm thinking of doing a Sust/D-Bol cycle that runs like this:

Weeks 1-8: Sust/500mg a week
Weeks 1-8: D-bol/25mg a day
Week 7: Clomid/100mg
Week 8: Clomid/50mg

Any criticisms/alterations or ANY advice for a first cycle???

 

[muscleup]

If I were you i would run the test with some deca at about 400mg a week and d-ball the first 4 weeks at 30mg a day, I think this would be a more solid cycle+get some arimidex or nolvadex in case of titties

 

[Ryvor]

you're also running the clomid too early. it should be after your cycle, once the AAS have completely left your body.

 

[o`boy]

you're also running the clomid too early. it should be after your cycle, once the AAS have completely left your body.

I agree, wait 3 weeks after your last shot with the clomid......

 

[TxLonghorn]

I like muscleups advice on this one. First off, stop the dbol at week 4-5, not week 8. Secondly, for you to gain that much weight, AND KEEP IT, you are going to need something else besides the dbol. I would go with deca (300-400mg/week) or eq (600mg/week) for 8 weeks.

And of course, the clomid 3 weeks after your last sust, deca, or eq shot.

If you are content with lesser gains, then what you are taking will be fine. Just stop the dbol around week 5.

tx

 

[manny78]

Agree, Dbols after 4-5 weeks is a waste since most of your gains will be during this period of time. Run Deca for 10 weeks with sustanon too for 10 weeks. With a good diet you should reach your goal.

 

[badazzwhitedude]

Many will recommend starting Clomid about 3 weeks after your last shot of Deca or Sust, but I would recommend waiting 4 weeks. The Decanoate ester in the Sust and Deca is so long lasting that there are still fair amounts of blood levels of Test and Nandrolone in your system after a month. Even the graph in Andy's post on "A comprehensive look at modern AAS cycling" shows this. Even in countries where Sust is legal and perscribed, I have read that it is often only given to patients every 4 weeks.

 

[B-legit]

Run the D-bol no longer than 4 weeks. Frontload the sos for a good kick. I'd throw in 400mg of deca to work synergystically with the sos. Clomiphene 3 wks after last shot due to the long ester. If winny is accessable, then throw in last 4 wks to harden up your bloat and keep gains. Good luck