Not Going To Failure??

[SquatPukeSquat]

I find training to failure pointless and dangerous for myself. On heavy compound lifts my stabilizers will fail before my core muscles, by going to failure I take out all the supporting muscle and leave myself open to injury, muscle pulls, and dislocation. I mean who here hit failure on squats above 315, not many I know of, it would be too dangerous IMO. ALso all the microtrauma cause by failure takes a lot of time to heal and causes a lot of scar tissue. The build up of scar tissue will slow down contrction speed and hinder smooth muscle contraction. Honestly I think progressive loading is a great tool for growth, by alway going slightly up in weight you can let your body adapt to weight with ease with no breakdown in form.

I fail every squat workout, and last week I failed at 425 after 7.
I've failed on high reps (up to 75) for squats, and as low as one. why does everyone think it is so dangerous? if you keep your form, you will eventually fail. everyone erroneously assumes that as you get more tired, this precludes one from keeping good form. Judging by the precedent set down in the past few weeks regarding failure, I must be a daredevil, or one of those people who are "crazy" and take freaky risks. I just thought I busted my ass.

 

[lavi]

you crazy man! Some of us don't have a cage/spotter though...

 

[collegiateLifter]

Agreed, many powerlifters train to failure or very close.

Olympic lifters would be a better example.

even OLers i suspect get the 'strain' to a degree, though it is a much different manifestation.

 

[Debaser]

I define failure as the point where you can no longer make a rep with good form. So if you're doing a set of 5 deadlifts, but have to heave it up poorly after the 5th rep, the 5th rep was the failure rep in my opinion.

 

[Lord_Suston]

SPS- maybe you are a Daredevil but training to failure is not need for myself. I get more results by progressive loading. Trust me I bust my ass, but I don't failure on compounds I got a injury on bench doing that. But this is my opinion for strength athletes

 

[muscledog95]

Hey suston..how do you do your progressive loading.....shoot for 5lb each workout or one extra rep? I know some that shoot for like 10lb a week...just not gonna happen

 

[muscledog95]

I try and get 5lb each week.......but im learning fast that 5lb a week is real hard to do

 

[Lord_Suston]

I go for 2.5 or 5lbs a week, I actually own 2--1.1/4lbs plates. But I add reps on some working sets or weight depending on where I am at in training or what I am going for. Example if I need more power endurance I might do clean and jerk with 135x8 one week and next week try for 10, and maybe the week after go for 12. From there I know how many reps is target goal, so if I get up to 20 reps with 135 and that is goal reps then I start adding weight each session if I can get all 20 reps. So both methods combine sometimes

 

[wtlftr]

IMO. If you train close to failure you will get some kind of gain. Don't you think. I mean how do you set your weights, you set them at a percent of your 1rm. If you train close to failure you can achieve more, because you are taxing the muscle more. Some might disagree with volume training and overload (reps or sets as oppossed to weight). My opinion. Worked for me and my clients. Too many variables, weights, reps, sets and speed. what is absolute failure. Always learning and trying new things. What is the consensious

 

[Dorian'sDisciple]

gays and girls don't but real men train to failure (and sometimes beyond )