Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I've been on 800mg of Prop/wk and 800mg Eq/wk, both QV, for 8wks, and am only up about 9lbs.......strength is up a little....It's just getting depressing.....it's not like the cycles I've did before where I've used 1gm of Omnas and 600mg Deca/wk and 50mg Dbol/day.....I know it's not going to be the same, but on a cycle before when I used Ttokkyo Eq the gains and strength were unreal!! This QV Eq is the fucking worst! Anyway, just a little rant, I'm positive it's real, just pissed off. Gonna add some Denkall Anadrols soon to give me a little boost for the last 4-6wks of this cycle. Thinking about trying some Denkall Suspension/Supra Eq for my next cycle.....any Ideas? What have you heard about British Dragon Eq? What is the best Eq out there right now???
Not getting SHIT from QV Eq/QV prop.!!!
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First off, thanks or replying V-SHAPE2.
I know I'm not taking in enough calories, about half that actually, maybe 3k.... I've gained 90lbs in the last 18mths, my appetite isn't that great now plus I can't think of 5000 clean calories that I can take in each day. I'm lazy on my diet....I'm currently 252lbs approx. 18%bf, I would like to get to 255-260lbs and get down to 11-13%bf.....I've been up to 272 lbs, but ended up losing some due to personal matters. Can you help me out on my diet? Give me a regimen to follow? I'd really like to nip this in the bud, it's fucking killing me mentally! But I still say this QV Eq is bullshit, I've heard a few others say this also....so I know I'm not the only one....also, what is another Eq that is readily available and very potent? Thanks bros and V-SHAPE! Oh yeah, I train hard as hell 4x per wk, that goes without saying though. I really need to get on a eating schedule and follow it....please post some diets that would be helpful to gain only quality mass.
I know I'm not taking in enough calories, about half that actually, maybe 3k.... I've gained 90lbs in the last 18mths, my appetite isn't that great now plus I can't think of 5000 clean calories that I can take in each day. I'm lazy on my diet....I'm currently 252lbs approx. 18%bf, I would like to get to 255-260lbs and get down to 11-13%bf.....I've been up to 272 lbs, but ended up losing some due to personal matters. Can you help me out on my diet? Give me a regimen to follow? I'd really like to nip this in the bud, it's fucking killing me mentally! But I still say this QV Eq is bullshit, I've heard a few others say this also....so I know I'm not the only one....also, what is another Eq that is readily available and very potent? Thanks bros and V-SHAPE! Oh yeah, I train hard as hell 4x per wk, that goes without saying though. I really need to get on a eating schedule and follow it....please post some diets that would be helpful to gain only quality mass.
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Ttokkyo Jack
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There is some fake QV stuff going around.... But if you gained 90lbs in the last 18 months, I think you may be reaching your limits and the 9lbs that you have gained is not all that bad.
V-SHAPE 2
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Im on clomid now and just ended my cycle. I eat 4000 cals perday. So basically try to eat 500 clean cals with 40 grams of protein in every meal 8 times a day. Its tough though. I just did qv eq at 400mg per week and it worked pretty good.
Maybe you shit was fake or something, I bet youll never fuck with QV ever again
Maybe you shit was fake or something, I bet youll never fuck with QV ever again
Lift Chief
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My 2 friends and I also thought the QV EQ sucked... got almost no strength/weight gains to mention.
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DaddyX
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I think QV sucks big dick. i dont care what anyone says there products are extremely hit or miss. i used recently there enanthate 50ml bottle and that was the worst shit i have ever taken. i would have rather spent my money on creatine and protien and i still would have been able to walk. me being stupid am giving it another shot. ive been using the prop w/dbol and i think the prop sucks too. fuck them. i was gonna use their EQ but now im not sure seeing what u have to say about it. the first bottle of my prop lasted like a week (sharing w/ my bro) and on the second bottle and already has lasted 2 more shots each............so not only is alot of their stuff ineffective but underfilled as well. blah blah,its real shit too. i dont know bros about QV
pitbullstl
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I am currently running 500 mgs of QV Enantat, and 400 mgs of QV EQ.....2.5 weeks in and I am up 9 lbs. appetite is through the roof....strength...ahhhh...so so......but I have already been as strong as I will ever be at 297....so at 250-260....I'll take what I can get.....anyway....I know it's a fair amount of bloat.....but I am positively gaining.....as far as the pain from the test goes.....I have found if the eq goes in first, then there is no pain......otherwise it hurts worse than Denkall test 400....and I didn't think that was possible.....I will agree that QV is hit and miss.....but it look like this one will be a home run.....PEACE
ichabodcrane
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Man, I just don't get what is going on with QV lately. So much negative, yet just as much positive. I am running prop at 500mg/wk + EQ 400mg/wk and am up 10 lb's by wk 3. I can tell it is real cuz I get bloated when I run this much prop. I really don't know what to say. There are always so many variables that go into the entire equation of gaining weight/mass it is hard to single any one thing out. But I do know that you should always "feel" something if your gear is real. I can't tell you to give it more time cuz 8 weeks is plenty to tell if prop is real or not. There was a pretty good thread at fitnessgeared.com:
http://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=6419
I don't know if this will help or not. But it seems there are definately fakes going around. Also, let me pre-warn you about that young dude that keeps calling everyone "kid", and is also dyslexic (you'll see what I mean).
Maybe some other advice is to taste your gear (Yeah go ahead and give me that freak fetish shit ) But I know all of my legit QV has a distinct taste to it. After you inject, just leave a tiny bit remaining and drop it onto the tip of your tongue. Mine always has this very distinct, numbing, chemical taste to it. The prop even tastes diff from the EQ. I don't know if this helps, but maybe it gives some clue that there is "something" in there. It seems if someone was to recap, they wouldn't even bother with adding anything but straight oil, and you know what that tastes like. Although now days, you really never know what these sick people would put in their recaps.
I hope QV is not pulling a Tt, cuz I thought we had a real "gold mine" going on for awhile. Maybe the only thing left to do is make your own damn gear. It's cheap as hell, and at least you know what you are putting in your body (so at least if you get an abcess, you have no one else to blame but yourself).
I know when I heard such great remarks about Tt, I stocked up on it. It was the newer lots, and IMO, every one of them totally sucked. I got absolutely nada from them. So I just use them to dilute my QV. Now that I heard such great things about QV, I did the same thing and stocked up. I have lot #'s from 1 to 7, but have only used the older lot's, ie. 1-3 (but so far so good).
So I'm sorry if you got bunk QV. The shit is so cheap to make, it makes me sick to think we can't buy gear without having to worry about if it is fake or not. Good luck bro!
http://www.fitnessgeared.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=6419
I don't know if this will help or not. But it seems there are definately fakes going around. Also, let me pre-warn you about that young dude that keeps calling everyone "kid", and is also dyslexic (you'll see what I mean).
Maybe some other advice is to taste your gear (Yeah go ahead and give me that freak fetish shit
) But I know all of my legit QV has a distinct taste to it. After you inject, just leave a tiny bit remaining and drop it onto the tip of your tongue. Mine always has this very distinct, numbing, chemical taste to it. The prop even tastes diff from the EQ. I don't know if this helps, but maybe it gives some clue that there is "something" in there. It seems if someone was to recap, they wouldn't even bother with adding anything but straight oil, and you know what that tastes like. Although now days, you really never know what these sick people would put in their recaps. I hope QV is not pulling a Tt, cuz I thought we had a real "gold mine" going on for awhile. Maybe the only thing left to do is make your own damn gear. It's cheap as hell, and at least you know what you are putting in your body (so at least if you get an abcess, you have no one else to blame but yourself).
I know when I heard such great remarks about Tt, I stocked up on it. It was the newer lots, and IMO, every one of them totally sucked. I got absolutely nada from them. So I just use them to dilute my QV. Now that I heard such great things about QV, I did the same thing and stocked up. I have lot #'s from 1 to 7, but have only used the older lot's, ie. 1-3 (but so far so good).
So I'm sorry if you got bunk QV. The shit is so cheap to make, it makes me sick to think we can't buy gear without having to worry about if it is fake or not. Good luck bro!
Lift Chief
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My stuff wasn't fake... just wasn't good 
Lift Chief
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nuh_mizer said:
What would be realistic gains then for 400mg EW for 10 weeks?
In terms of weight/strength gains... generally speaking and obviously assuming 300gms protein ED and training in check.
I honestly felt like i was basically natural while on was on the QV EQ... although i did get slightly better strength gains.
Thanks for the responses fellas....
I've also used QV Cyp with no great results.
nuh_mizer,
I've taken Eq before like I stated in my first post, don't just skim through the posts, read all of it. It was Ttokkyo and I've also taken Tornel Eq, and the Ttokkyo was by far the best. I know what it feels like to be on good Eq. I've ALSO been on it 3 times. Obviously it doesn't feel like test/deca/dbol cycle, but it shouldn't be this fucking bad either!
I'm wondering how the British Dragon Eq and Supra Eq is compared to all others? I'm definitely never using QV Eq again, I think the only gains I've gotten so far is from the Prop. QV is shit to me and will not be using anything besides the prop.
Anyway, I'm going to start a thread on the best Eq out right now. Later.
I've also used QV Cyp with no great results.
nuh_mizer,
I've taken Eq before like I stated in my first post, don't just skim through the posts, read all of it. It was Ttokkyo and I've also taken Tornel Eq, and the Ttokkyo was by far the best. I know what it feels like to be on good Eq. I've ALSO been on it 3 times. Obviously it doesn't feel like test/deca/dbol cycle, but it shouldn't be this fucking bad either!
I'm wondering how the British Dragon Eq and Supra Eq is compared to all others? I'm definitely never using QV Eq again, I think the only gains I've gotten so far is from the Prop. QV is shit to me and will not be using anything besides the prop.
Anyway, I'm going to start a thread on the best Eq out right now. Later.
nuh_mizer, no problem bro. I can honestly say I'm not taking in enough calories or protein, but I should still feel some strength and see a difference in size...it's been 8wks! I've done plenty of cycles to know what it feels like when something is working or not. I need to get 4500 Calories in per day and at LEAST 250gms of protein! I'm trying to put together a diet right now, but just can't seem to get enough clean meals in to make it where I'll only gain lean mass, and not get bloated.
Throw me some different diets bros, to gain only lean mass. I'm 252lbs right now....I'd like to end up at 260 and 15%bf, that's attainable within the next 6wks or so.
POST SOME DIETS or places I can find some to ONLY gain LBM..Thanks. I need 4500 CLEAN Cals/day.
Throw me some different diets bros, to gain only lean mass. I'm 252lbs right now....I'd like to end up at 260 and 15%bf, that's attainable within the next 6wks or so.
POST SOME DIETS or places I can find some to ONLY gain LBM..Thanks. I need 4500 CLEAN Cals/day.
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