No Test Cycle!?!

[rosco141]

Sup guys

Need some advice and opinions on a running a cutting cycle but with no test at all. Why i have choose this is because i am gyno prone. Staying away from aromatizing gear so thinking of running something like this

Cycle
Weeks 1-12 EQ 400mg/week
Weeks 1-4 Winstrol 50mg/ED
Weeks 9-12 Winstrol 50mg/ED
Weeks 1-12 Proviron 50mg/ED

PCT
Week 13 40mg Nolvadex & 100mg Clomid ED
Week 14 30mg Nolvadex & 50mg Clomid ED
Week 15 20mg Nolvadex & 50mg Clomid ED

I am 23 yrs old
6'4
220
16% BF

Going to be using Trex 1-6 weeks and have some AIFM on hand as well.

Cheers any and all advice will be much appreciated

 

[SwolK]

looks good. maybe run some tbol and var instead of the winny for weeks 1-4. then use the winny weeks 8-12.

just a thought. but if you already have the gear, what you outlined above is fine. many peeps will tell you that you need to run the eq longer and at a higher dose, but i think you have it perfect

 

[georgie2006]

you will eventually feel like shit W/out the test..... trust me

you may need to add just a little bit if you start getting lethargic or depressed

 

[SwolK]

ask bruce410 about it. he runs eq with no test and gets great results

 

[Knights2]

just remember sicne its a cutter...cardio and good clean diet bro!!! otherwise everyhtign looks good...i never run without test and georgie is right...you might end up needing it. Ever run a cycle without Test yet?

 

[hanibal]

if u are gyno prone, u can use test WITH letro. u will have no problem. if u are set on running no test, u should be ok w/ the eq and proviron, but may have a problem w/ win w/ no test. i was gonna do something similar but now will add prop 300/wk w/ letro, switching over to AIFM after 10 weeks. i would use the T rex longer than 6. i'm on 4 months now, and at about end of month 2 is when it really kicked in good. use YES too for spot BF reduction...works well after about a month for most...

 

[solidspine]

Looks great, just add test, aifm,


over

 

[rosco141]

Cheers guys... yeah 1st time running no test cycle 3rd cycle tho. Just gyno prone and have bit left over from last cycle. Wasnt as educated as i was now about sides & PCT etc. Didnt think or realise about sides til i actually got them. Just want to run cycle with no aromo gear minimise sides. Thought about running tbol with cycle but heard still aromos just not as much as dbol. Dbol what gave my gyno last cycle. 1st cycle was sus & deca with no sides. Ran BD Dbol strong shit but got gyno. Going to run this cycle may extend EQ to 14-16 weeks just restricted by cash like most. Will keep yas updated with results and progress.

 

[OMEGA]

no Test = not so good idea

 

[bmcadoo44]

i was doing something similar with winstrol and anavar for 8 weeks. But the guys on EF convinced me enough to get on some test prop at 100mg eod.

Get some prop with that cycle and you will keep mostly everything.

My AI's and Anti E's are AIFM, Proviron, Nolva, Clomid for my cycle.

Good luck

 

[rakasha681]

ask bruce410 about it. he runs eq with no test and gets great results

Krishna also enjoys his testless cycles.

 

[krishna]

Krishna also enjoys his testless cycles.

Sure do!

I'd bump the eq to 600-800. What about tren or masteron instead of orals?

 

[rosco141]

well i can either do 12 weeks @ 650mgs ( rounded down ) or 16 weeks @ 500mgs. What would see better results?

 

[drrman]

I have had quite a few "test-less" cycles that i have had some great results from.

i'd go 16 weeks instead of the 12 also

 

[blut wump]

I've never run Eq but I'm concerned that you're going into PCT the week following your final week of Eq. Being a long ester (undecylenate), it's suppression is going to be lasting a long while. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[SwolK]

I've never run Eq but I'm concerned that you're going into PCT the week following your final week of Eq. Being a long ester (undecylenate), it's suppression is going to be lasting a long while. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

you are right. i just noticed it too.

wait 2-3 weeks to start clomid after EQ

 

[OMEGA]

I have had quite a few "test-less" cycles that i have had some great results from.

i'd go 16 weeks instead of the 12 also

libido?

 

[blut wump]

you are right. i just noticed it too.

wait 2-3 weeks to start clomid after EQ

2 - 3 weeks would be fine for a moderate-length ester like cyp or enan but Eq is undecylenate, ie longer even than deca.

 

[drrman]

libido?

thats one side i have never had any issues with at all. I can't remember but one time i have ever had libidio issues in my life and that was a deca/winny stack i was on back in college, and even then i got hard just couldn't get "rock" hard. My sides i have to deal with mainly are gyno and water retention.

So i don't recommend testless cycles to people but if they have some years of cycling and want to try one to see how their body reacts its not a bad idea