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Nicotine for preworkout.

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i edited this into the thread . . read it, conclusions and all http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/par16.htm

Good effects of nicotine, not posting the bad because you already know them.



Analgesia
(ahn ahl gee shia), absence of pain while retaining the sense of touch, painlessness. One of the most promising uses of nicotinic drugs to date is as pain relievers.

Anti-psychotic
(ahn tee si kah tihk), literally, against psychosis (a type of insanity where the subject loses almost complete touch with reality). Interestingly, the correlation between a diagnosis of untreated psychosis and smoking is very high--it appears that somehow the psychotic person "knows" to self-medicate themselves.

Anxiolysis
(ang zee oh lie sis), lowering of anxiety levels.

Cognitive Enhancement
(cahg nih tihv ehn hahns mehnt), increasing/enhancing of the processes involved in thinking/knowing (cognition).

Cerebrovasodilation
(ceh ree broh vay soh dye lay shun), dilating (opening, widening) of the blood vessels (vaso) in the brain (cerebro).

Neuroprotection
(nyoo rho pro tek shun), as it sounds, protecting the cells of the nervous system from certain types of degenerative disease. No one knows for sure quite why, but a history smoking seems to be protective against some of the neuronal loss in Alzheimer's disease.



Believe it or not, slap a nicotine patch on for preworkout and it'll help.

The effects of nicotine on vasodiolation of the blood vessels in the brain

and on your thought process of thinking/knowing are a great tool for workouts.

Throw some aspirin and caffeine into this preworkout stack with some herbal

mood enhacements and you'll have one hell of a preworkout stack.


krbn08 :evilking:
 
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krbn08 said:
Good effects of nicotine, not posting the bad because you already know them.



Analgesia
(ahn ahl gee shia), absence of pain while retaining the sense of touch, painlessness. One of the most promising uses of nicotinic drugs to date is as pain relievers.

Anti-psychotic
(ahn tee si kah tihk), literally, against psychosis (a type of insanity where the subject loses almost complete touch with reality). Interestingly, the correlation between a diagnosis of untreated psychosis and smoking is very high--it appears that somehow the psychotic person "knows" to self-medicate themselves.

Anxiolysis
(ang zee oh lie sis), lowering of anxiety levels.

Cognitive Enhancement
(cahg nih tihv ehn hahns mehnt), increasing/enhancing of the processes involved in thinking/knowing (cognition).

Cerebrovasodilation
(ceh ree broh vay soh dye lay shun), dilating (opening, widening) of the blood vessels (vaso) in the brain (cerebro).

Neuroprotection
(nyoo rho pro tek shun), as it sounds, protecting the cells of the nervous system from certain types of degenerative disease. No one knows for sure quite why, but a history smoking seems to be protective against some of the neuronal loss in Alzheimer's disease.



Believe it or not, slap a nicotine patch on for preworkout and it'll help.

The effects of nicotine on vasodiolation of the blood vessels in the brain

and on your thought process of thinking/knowing are a great tool for workouts.

Throw some aspirin and caffeine into this preworkout stack with some herbal

mood enhacements and you'll have one hell of a preworkout stack.


krbn08 :evilking:
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I did a piece on nicotine awhile ago...I included it in a transdermal formula for a female figure contestant, and did some other stuff with the compound as well. Interestingly, it's also an anti-estrogen.
 
I heard of alot of the old time BBers smoking because of it's effect on diminishing your appetite esp. b4 a show
 
People will say it's bad, but they know very little about it.

Smoking has it's side effects of wrinkles around the mouth and yellow teeth, but

i'm not talking about smoking, i'm talking about nicotine patches.

Just like AAS, if you abuse it, you'll have problems.

Don't abuse, be smart, and remember to research what is going into your body.

Of course, too much of anything will cause problems . . :rolleyes:
 
nicotine patches can raise your BP to dangerous levels. it can be very toxic. and patches aren't cheap. the only benifit of using them is the wicked ass nightmares...
 
another ridiculous post--this site has gone down the tubes--this mornings posts were guys taking XANAX to curb their aggression from TRen--that was one of the stupidest posts ive ever seen
 
What about AAS? Safe?

blood lipids, gyno, raise bad cholesterol and lower good . . ect.

Last time i checked, ciggarettes are only age restricted . .

Talk about banned substances.

Xanax, loratabs, coke, weed, and AAS is in a completely different area.

None are OTC.
 
HumanTarget said:
nicotine patches can raise your BP to dangerous levels. it can be very toxic. and patches aren't cheap. the only benifit of using them is the wicked ass nightmares...
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wow that sounds cool. this happens to you regularly when using an nicotine patch?

i love nightmares!
 
digit0x said:
wow that sounds cool. this happens to you regularly when using an nicotine patch?

i love nightmares!
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the term that is actually used on the package is "vivid". and they were. like technocolor fricking horror movies. but you're the star.
 
bigjd69 said:
I heard of alot of the old time BBers smoking because of it's effect on diminishing your appetite esp. b4 a show
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diminishing appetite? i have been known to eat peanut butter by the jar while stoned
 
krbn08 said:
Poison? i didn't mention anything about poison . .
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Nicotine is a poison, just like alcohol.

Just because people use them for recreation or they're advertised in television and magazines and what have you doesn't change their status.




:cow:
 
samoth said:
Nicotine is a poison, just like alcohol.

Just because people use them for recreation or they're advertised in television and magazines and what have you doesn't change their status.




:cow:
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What i don't understand is being able to comprehend a world that is so imcomprehensible.

To me . . television is poison, but that's just my take.

I guess an opinion is the only thing that a forum has to offer and i respect everyone's.

Don't you think it's a little much to lable something a poison?

A gun can murder (which is bad) , but it can also defend (which is good).

Depends on how you look at something.

That's exactly where society has gone, labeling everything and everyone. Judging.
 
krbn08 said:
What i don't understand is being able to comprehend a world that is so imcomprehensible.

To me . . television is poison, but that's just my take.

I guess an opinion is the only thing that a forum has to offer and i respect everyone's.

Don't you think it's a little much to lable something a poison?

A gun can murder (which is bad) , but it can also defend (which is good).

Depends on how you look at something.

That's exactly where society has gone, labeling everything and everyone. Judging.
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You're obfuscating the issue.

Nicotine and alcohol are considered poisons when ingested into the human body.

You can tip-toe and try to rationalize all you want, but it won't change anything. This isn't my opinion at all.

HTH




:cow:
 
samoth said:
You're obfuscating the issue.

Nicotine and alcohol are considered poisons when ingested into the human body.

You can tip-toe and try to rationalize all you want, but it won't change anything. This isn't my opinion at all.

HTH




:cow:
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And? Are you just trying to say they're a poison? is that the point ur trying to make?
 
Samoth, just so we don't get this confused. Here's my first post. Notice what is said.

Then comment on it one last time and we'll leave it at that. k :)



Good effects of nicotine, not posting the bad because you already know them.



Analgesia
(ahn ahl gee shia), absence of pain while retaining the sense of touch, painlessness. One of the most promising uses of nicotinic drugs to date is as pain relievers.

Anti-psychotic
(ahn tee si kah tihk), literally, against psychosis (a type of insanity where the subject loses almost complete touch with reality). Interestingly, the correlation between a diagnosis of untreated psychosis and smoking is very high--it appears that somehow the psychotic person "knows" to self-medicate themselves.

Anxiolysis
(ang zee oh lie sis), lowering of anxiety levels.

Cognitive Enhancement
(cahg nih tihv ehn hahns mehnt), increasing/enhancing of the processes involved in thinking/knowing (cognition).

Cerebrovasodilation
(ceh ree broh vay soh dye lay shun), dilating (opening, widening) of the blood vessels (vaso) in the brain (cerebro).

Neuroprotection
(nyoo rho pro tek shun), as it sounds, protecting the cells of the nervous system from certain types of degenerative disease. No one knows for sure quite why, but a history smoking seems to be protective against some of the neuronal loss in Alzheimer's disease.



Believe it or not, slap a nicotine patch on for preworkout and it'll help.

The effects of nicotine on vasodiolation of the blood vessels in the brain

and on your thought process of thinking/knowing are a great tool for workouts.

Throw some aspirin and caffeine into this preworkout stack with some herbal

mood enhacements and you'll have one hell of a preworkout stack.


krbn08 :evilking:


EVERYTHING HAS SIDE EFFECTS BRO.

LOOK AT ANY PRODUCTS WARNINGS, THEY ALL GOT EM :)
 
krbn08 said:
And? Are you just trying to say they're a poison? is that the point ur trying to make?
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That was it. That the chemicals are considered poisons, that's all.

Given their chemical classification, I fail to see the benefit to the overall health of the bodybuilder. There's other stuff out there that would be the credited choice over nicotine when looking at if solely from an exercise/ergogenic standpoint.





:cow:
 
krbn08 said:
Samoth, just so we don't get this confused. Here's my first post. Notice what is said.

Then comment on it one last time and we'll leave it at that. k :)

Good effects of nicotine, not posting the bad because you already know them.
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I could make a thread stating the good effects of crack cocaine or 4-methylaminorex as pre-workout stimulants, thermogenics, et cetera, and not post the bad because we all already know them... however, I fail to see the purpose of such a thing.




:cow:
 
samoth said:
I could make a thread stating the good effects of crack cocaine or 4-methylaminorex as pre-workout stimulants, thermogenics, et cetera, and not post the bad because we all already know them... however, I fail to see the purpose of such a thing.




:cow:
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Holy Crap . .

Your comparing it to Meth? Crack?

Like i said, nicotine is OTC.

Just like AAS, don't abuse and you won't have problems.
 
krbn08 said:
Holy Crap . .

Your comparing it to Meth? Crack?
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Yes, I am. Although I think we're looking at things from different standpoints. I don't care what society says about them yesterday, today, or tomorrow, as that changes with the winds. I look at what they are chemically and what they do to the body. OTC status is irrelevant to me. Chemical classification as a poison is.




:cow:
 
samoth said:
Although I think we're looking at things from different standpoints.

:cow:
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Yes, yes we are :)

i see where your coming from and i know you see where i'm coming from . .

it's just a different perspective. No harm done.
 
samoth said:
Yes, I am. Although I think we're looking at things from different standpoints. I don't care what society says about them yesterday, today, or tomorrow, as that changes with the winds. I look at what they are chemically and what they do to the body. OTC status is irrelevant to me. Chemical classification as a poison is.




:cow:
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samoth can you seriously tell me that nicotine is as bad as alcohol? nicotine abuse is one thing but i personally have one chew a day in the evening. it relaxes me and i dont feel like i abuse it. i would much rather chew then drink. drinking makes me feel like i have nothing but catablic toxins running through my body which makes me have to drink 10X as much water and it ruins me the next day (hence i never touch alcohol). one chew per night for me does nothing to me the next day.l
 
samoth said:
I look at what they are chemically and what they do to the body. OTC status is irrelevant to me. Chemical classification as a poison is.




:cow:
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Water (H2O) is not a poison and it is far from chemical classification as a poison, but drinking too much can still kill you.

it'll flood the body and you'll drown. if you don't believe me, try it.

So looking at what something is chemically, reallly doesn't matter because

like i said before . . Too much of anything is harmful, just don't ABUSE it.
 
Nicotine is a poison. No matter how you look at it it can not be good for you. it is a powerful bug killer for plants. I quit smoking several months ago and I feel so much better not being on a poison regularly. I just cant aggree with using it as part of a preworkout stack. One guy metioned it is safe to be used responcibly. but it is so addictive that responsible use wont last for long once you get addicted to the patch. To each his own, Not fo rme!
 
"Nicotine is a drug—not a poison or carcinogen—but a drug," says Sergei A. Grando of the University of California, Davis. "Nicotine is often a bad guy," he adds, "but it can also be a good guy." - taken from http://www.tourettes-disorder.com/therapy/nicotine.html

I'm trying out the patches to see if it helps my mild Tourettes symptoms. Reading the Nicoderm pamphlet, it says the patch itself is not addictive.
 
shape said:
another ridiculous post--this site has gone down the tubes--this mornings posts were guys taking XANAX to curb their aggression from trenbolone--that was one of the stupidest posts ive ever seen
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This isnt that bad an idea if done in moderation. Not joe jerkoff who takes 5 sticks and drinks a liter of vodka.
 
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