next terrorist targets

[spongebob]

i believe that it could be the petrochemical industry. i work at chemical plant and we now have armed guards in the facility. i think one is a police officer and the other is from swat. he has a m-14 assualt rifle.
we have some very dangerous chemicals in a large storage tank as do other facilties around us. these facilities are all over the country, if you live near one you need to be informed of what is stored there and is there any precautions you could take. ie. face mask.
these sites are very vunerable and the info is easily found. just look at what happen in bopal with carbide. we have that same gas in a facilty here.

 

[KAYNE]

I LIVE IN CANCER ALLY (THE AREA WITH ABOUT 20 CHEM PLANTS). THERE IS ALSO A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT ABOUT 15 MILES FROM ME. I'M FUCKED.

KAYNE

 

[madbomber31]

damn, that explains so much about you kayne...



had to take a swipe, its been a while.

 

[chesty]

I would suspect either a Nuclear power plant or a packed to capacity football game. Both from aerial attacks as the WTC.

The football event has the potential for 80,000 deaths the nuclear power plant, has the ability for far greater numbers from the radiation, but it is loner term and would actually do much to create mass hysteria which would have equal if not greater effect than the football arena.

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

Nuclear power plant! they will probably use 6 to 12 tanker trucks of fuel combined with explosives. Even with the so called beefed up security they can easily drive tankers into the plant. Many of the older plants will not survive a massive explosion. A radioactive cloud will spread over a huge section of the US. If not a large part of North America. There original plan was to use jets and they may still do this.

They could also storm the control center of a nuke plant and induce a melt down by releasing the water for the core!

Hopefully, we can stop this, but they do not have adequate security at all of the plants. They need to have military troops, tanks, and antiaircraft missles.

Why would they do this? Because it's relatively simple like the WTC attack. And it will produce similiar casualties to what a nuclear bomb would do. And the worst part of this type of attack is much of the land would be inhabitable for centuries. Chernobyl was and still is the worst man made disaster eve, hopefully it will stay that way!

I wish I was making this up, but they are targeting nuke plants. Because of mass histeria etc CIA, FBI has not been publizing it like the biological attack threats have been.

 

[gymnpoppa]

The most vulnerable place I think is the Alaskan pipeline.....miles of unprotected pipeline. The last week of September someone shot a hole in the pipeline with a .338 rifle. We lost 285,000 gallons of oil. They're still cleaning it up.....and admit that they have no way of protecting the pipeline from terrorist attacks. If they hit that, we're truly fucked.

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

"Alaskan pipeline"

You mean economiclly right? Destroying the Alaskan Pipline will not destroy America. It only one part of the oil infastructure of the US. Just like the WTC attack has not destroyed America. Smallpox, Ebola, Nuclear attacks is what we have to worry about. These type of attacks will unstabilize the US. It will cause interanal strife. A Mad Max environment if you will. That will destroy America. We will survive as long as the Constitution survives. But once you break the leadership chain of the goverment, It would be hard if not impossible to fix.

 

[crash3837]

DcupSheepNipples, I agree with you on what you just said.

If they were to try to strike another building I would think it would be the sears tower.

 

[natedogg03]

i hope you guys don't know what you are talking about

 

[booger]

How about a 'Flame Thrower' at some big event like Mardi Gras. They could just hose everyone down.

 

[booger]

I speculate that "Natural Causes" will get us all if something else doesn't get us first.

 

[Y_lifter]

I have see several INDEPENDENT studies regarding Nuclear Containment Bldg strength.
I honestly believe they can withstand quite a bit of explosive and Impact energy even though they were not DESIGNED to do so.

The best example of this was when they ran a rail mounted, rocket propelled Fighter jet travelling at 400 mph into a sample of the standard 6 ft thick rebar reinforced containment wall.

The Jet disintegrated on impact and penetrated the wall less than an Inch.

If anything, they will attack the plant on the ground with Men and take it over, causing a meltdown from inside.

 

[needleboy]

The oil refineries along the Houston River are a big risk right now. If they were to be hit gas and heating oil prices would skyrocket to epic proportions and send the economy into a tailspin that makes the Great Deperssionn seem like a bad hair day!

 

[Immortal Juicer]

the scary thing is...

we have been able to come up with these targets in a matter of minutes. These fucking terrorists have been brainstorming and planning shit out for years.

And they are not dumb psychos like most people think. They are very smart motherfuckers, extremely motivated, and willing to sacrifice anything to accomplish their goals.

That is some scary shit!

 

[gymnpoppa]

Re: the scary thing is...

we have been able to come up with these targets in a matter of minutes. These fucking terrorists have been brainstorming and planning shit out for years.

And they are not dumb psychos like most people think. They are very smart motherfuckers, extremely motivated, and willing to sacrifice anything to accomplish their goals.

That is some scary shit!

Our once- arrogant aura of invincibility has contributed to the lax security measures in this country. These dirtbags have just observed, and struck, and done exactly like you said. Can anybody say that we're prepared to deal with anything? NO, we're not........we've beefed up airline security, but as Chesty said the other day, it's still a joke.

 

[spongebob]

The most vulnerable place I think is the Alaskan pipeline.....miles of unprotected pipeline. The last week of September someone shot a hole in the pipeline with a .338 rifle. We lost 285,000 gallons of oil. They're still cleaning it up.....and admit that they have no way of protecting the pipeline from terrorist attacks. If they hit that, we're truly fucked.

most of the storage tanks at refineries hold 1mil gallons and if a large hole was put into one it would be hard to plug, whereas with the pipeline you can close an upstream valve. also if you knock out even one refinery in the US, gas prices would sky rocket. and some chemical plants have some products stored that could wipe out a whole town. ie. hydrgen, ammonia, etc. you could hit these tanks from outside the gate.

 

[spongebob]

i hope you guys don't know what you are talking about

natdog, these reason i started this thread is because of what i saw happen at my plant. after 9-11 we only had minimum security, then after we struck back and recieved credible threats to the petrochemical industry we had armed swat show up. now i believe that they have recieved threats. if you live in a city that has these facilities it is common for the city to have a worse case scenario incident relating to the plants. in other words what would happen if the most dagerous chemical was released and how do you respond. they have since taken this info off or thier website in my town for fear of it in the wrong hands.
all im saying is if you live around a plant find out what is stored and try to be prepared.

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

Any speculation, on this board, about what the next terrorist attacks are going to be, is just that: SPECULATION.

Of course it is! Just because someone posts something on this board doest mean that it is true, or that it will happen. But the fact that you have to explain that to some people on this board is fucking scary. We are only as strong as our weakest link!

 

[spongebob]

Any speculation, on this board, about what the next terrorist attacks are going to be, is just that: SPECULATION.

The same people, on this board, who say that our water supply is in danger are the same ones who said we would all be dead of smallpox by the end of September. Everyone just loves to sit around and think of new reasons why we're fucked. For all we know the terrorist cells, in this country, are running for their collective lives.

Someone posted a thread the other day about how anthrax was going to kill millions of people in this country and I posted an article that completely refuted that. So the person said that smallpox is the one we really have to worry about. So I posted an article refuting that. Now it's the water supply. Nuclear reactors. Suitcase nukes, etc, etc, etc. The theory of the sporting event is one that I think is more real that any of the others, but then again, what the fuck do I know?

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we must use common sense. obviously anthrax is a little harder to spread than people first realized.
what would a terrorist do at a sporting event?
they captured a guy with plans for a nuclear energy facility and thier was discussion of chemical plants.
if someone wanted to do something at a sporting event they would have to bring whatever it isthey are going to use to the event. the materials for a catastrophy are already at the plants.
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In any case, don't let anyone on this board scare you with their theories. If any of us were really in touch with what was going on, we wouldn't have time to post on this board.

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i dont think anybody is trying to scare anybody, thats rediculous. we can discuss this cant we. and as far as being in touch if you read the thread you'll see i said i worked at a chemical plant and have lived here all my life. there has always been events surrounding these facilities. obviously none of us know where they will hit next, so you cant refute squat.

 

[spongebob]

Re: the scary thing is...

we have been able to come up with these targets in a matter of minutes. These fucking terrorists have been brainstorming and planning shit out for years.

And they are not dumb psychos like most people think. They are very smart motherfuckers, extremely motivated, and willing to sacrifice anything to accomplish their goals.

That is some scary shit!

i did not take me just minutes to come up with these targets, i have lived around them my whole life. it has always been known that these places are potential targets.

 

[gymnpoppa]

Re: Re: the scary thing is...

i did not take me just minutes to come up with these targets, i have lived around them my whole life. it has always been known that these places are potential targets.

I agree, and the military opened my eyes up years ago, I've just hoped that nothing would ever happen. Since 82, I've believed that we were susceptible to some type of attack, obviously its been played out in quite a few movies, but the method of these attacks, far exceeded my estimation of these terrorist organizations. They lost 285,000 gallons from the rifle shot, so I can only imagine what a well placed bomb would do. Or several......the mental state of the country is also a target. Spongebob, I think our media does entirely too much reporting on all of it. from interviews with victim's family members, to speculative reports, and the lying reports from the government about the anthrax. NO connection? Yeah, okay, you may not have found it yet, but dont say there isn't a connection. Did you know we GAVE Iraq anthrax years ago? Why?

 

[KAYNE]

damn, that explains so much about you kayne...



had to take a swipe, its been a while.

HEHE!!!

KAYNE

 

[Train Harder]

Chesty, I was listening to the radio the other day and someone brought up the theory of a nuclear power plant attack. The conclusion was that the plants have enough but in built in safety features to stop a meltdown or nuclear explosion of one sort or another. From what i understand the worst that could happen is perhaps some radioactive cooling water leaking from the plant if the damage is severe enough.

 

[thebabydoc]

The terrorists are in no rush. It is human and especially American nature to get all excited and heated up about issues of security and then slowly go back to "business as usual." This is not a bad thing. It is what makes America America.

The terrorists will wait and then probably strike again. Think of how long they have been attacking Israel and the best they can come up with is human bombs. They really aren't as creative or resourceful or intelligent as we are giving them credit for. They are lazy, shiftless, slimy Arabs who's sole mission is to destroy others; they don't have much incentive to come up with great things.

Look at it this way: in the vast scope of things that could have been done with 5 YEARS of planning, the best they could come up with was to "successfully" hijack 3.5 planes and kill 6,000 out of 280,000,000 people? I'm sure 3 MIT physics students could have done much worse after a night of heavy drinking on a bender. We gave them an opportunity and they took it. The trick from here on out is to not give them any more "easy" opportunities.

As the Israeli's have learned, terrorism will continue no matter what. You cannot negotiate it away because, so long as they exist their views and actions are radical and do not bend, conform, or yield to those of others (contrast this with conservatives and liberals here as well as in places like Israel; agreeing to disagree and compromise is what allows democracies to work- checks and balances, etc...)

Our only hope is to COMPLETELEY ELIMINATE the source(s), supporters, and incentives for terrorism. Figure out what they want and, while they're waiting for us to fall asleep at the wheel again, wipe out everything they hope to achieve. Kill their leaders, wipe out their sources of income, kill their families at home, destroy their holy places. With their leaders gone and economic, spiritual, other supports eliminated, blowing yourself up for a non-existent cause is less of a desirable option.

It might not be palatable to some pussies (and that's what they are) but it is a necessary evil we will need to pursue to continue with our way of life, one which it seems the majority of the world agrees with judging by their attempts to emulate us.

 

[Nitro6]

Superbowl in New Orleans- January

Olympics (many venues) in Salt Lake City- February

 

[ryker77]

Traffic: A few guys with around the country with any type of weapon. Right before rush hour traffic they light up a few cars. It wouldn't kill alot of people but It sure would cause alot of wrecks and back traffic way up. They could hit all the major cities at random. This is minor in the whole picture. The big picture would be the number of people that stayed at home, not making money or spending money. All due to FEAR.

 

[spongebob]

Our only hope is to COMPLETELEY ELIMINATE the source(s), supporters, and incentives for terrorism. Figure out what they want and, while they're waiting for us to fall asleep at the wheel again, wipe out everything they hope to achieve. Kill their leaders, wipe out their sources of income, kill their families at home, destroy their holy places. With their leaders gone and economic, spiritual, other supports eliminated, blowing yourself up for a non-existent cause is less of a desirable option.

It might not be palatable to some pussies (and that's what they are) but it is a necessary evil we will need to pursue to continue with our way of life, one which it seems the majority of the world agrees with judging by their attempts to emulate us.

unfortunately i agree.

 

[spongebob]

Re: Re: Re: the scary thing is...

I agree, and the military opened my eyes up years ago, I've just hoped that nothing would ever happen. Since 82, I've believed that we were susceptible to some type of attack, obviously its been played out in quite a few movies, but the method of these attacks, far exceeded my estimation of these terrorist organizations. They lost 285,000 gallons from the rifle shot, so I can only imagine what a well placed bomb would do. Or several......the mental state of the country is also a target. Spongebob, I think our media does entirely too much reporting on all of it. from interviews with victim's family members, to speculative reports, and the lying reports from the government about the anthrax. NO connection? Yeah, okay, you may not have found it yet, but dont say there isn't a connection. Did you know we GAVE Iraq anthrax years ago? Why?

the media caters to the masses. i personally get sick of watching the news sometimes. its convenient to plop down and turn it on instead of researching shit on the internet or in the library for some people.
im not convinced yet these anthrax cases are the work of terrorist. you know we have alot of sick phucs wanting to be copycats. this could be an opportune time to pull this shit why so much focus is on terrorist. hell i dont know.
but i dont think the govt should reveal anything just yet until they have very concrete proof. the public is already speculating enough and its scarring the shit out of people.

 

[gymnpoppa]

what. You cannot negotiate it away because, so long as they exist their views and actions are radical and do not bend, conform, or yield to those of others (contrast this with conservatives and liberals here as well as in places like Israel; agreeing to disagree and compromise is what allows democracies to work- checks and balances, etc...)

Our only hope is to COMPLETELEY ELIMINATE the source(s), supporters, and incentives for terrorism. Figure out what they want and, while they're waiting for us to fall asleep at the wheel again, wipe out everything they hope to achieve. Kill their leaders, wipe out their sources of income, kill their families at home, destroy their holy places. With their leaders gone and economic, spiritual, other supports eliminated, blowing yourself up for a non-existent cause is less of a desirable option.

It might not be palatable to some pussies (and that's what they are) but it is a necessary evil we will need to pursue to continue with our way of life, one which it seems the majority of the world agrees with judging by their attempts to emulate us.

Wipe out their holy places? Are you meaning all holy places in the M East? I'm for wiping out all terrorists, but to accomplish what you just suggested, we'd have to kill every Muslim, Arab, in the world. Including the ones that have been living here for years. Do you actually think any of our allies would join us in this type of slaughter? Basically, that's about what you'd have to do just to wipe out terrorism. Any people of M E descent left living with their holy places destroyed, would revert to the animalistic state you suggest. As for what they want, I suggest you do a search on the beginnings of terrorism...

that will give you some answers as to what they want. We need to get the fuck out of there.....PERIOD. Stop the arms selling to them, giving them aid, food, money. And get out. Plain and simple. Let them have their oil. I suggest all Western culture countries boycott them, their oil, and other products they export, and refuse to import a pack of matches to them. Since we've given them so much technology to survive, let's see how well they survive without us holding their hands. I believe that would eliminate a great deal of incentive for them. With all of the money we give in aid, we can rebuild our Missile Defense system, assist our true allies if necessary, get our homeless vets, etc...off the streets. and clean up our educational system. Close our borders....align and work with Canada to ensure that no one comes in.....the hell with the theory of we're an open country, that shit got us in this mess in the beginning. Protect the homeland, and our true allies......

Spongebob, until the attacks on Sept 11th, I NEver watched the news, I realize why now. And these sick phucs playing with the anthrax, they should be shot, on TV, as a example of what an stupidly challenged nut deserves. In my mind, they are terrorists, and should be treated as such.

 

[spongebob]

that will give you some answers as to what they want. We need to get the fuck out of there.....PERIOD. Stop the arms selling to them, giving them aid, food, money. And get out. Plain and simple. Let them have their oil. I suggest all Western culture countries boycott them, their oil, and other products they export, and refuse to import a pack of matches to them. Since we've given them so much technology to survive, let's see how well they survive without us holding their hands. I believe that would eliminate a great deal of incentive for them. With all of the money we give in aid, we can rebuild our Missile Defense system, assist our true allies if necessary, get our homeless vets, etc...off the streets. and clean up our educational system. Close our borders....align and work with Canada to ensure that no one comes in.....the hell with the theory of we're an open country, that shit got us in this mess in the beginning. Protect the homeland, and our true allies......

i like this idea, its kinda of the first time its made sense to me. we get the hell out and let them come to us begging for help and assistance. they pay the price for our involvement.
we could survive without the oil, at least for awhile, and see what happens to thier economy. this also could serve a double purpose of telling OPEC to phuc off.

 

[Immortal Juicer]

Re: Re: the scary thing is...

So tell me why they haven't done anything yet. What are they waiting for? I don't consider these anthrax envelopes a major terrorist strike.

They are waiting for the right time; when they have the highest probability of succesfully executing the attack. We dont know when that is until we either prevent the attack, or when we dont.

 

[booger]

NUKE MECCA NOW!!