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needtogetaas
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No ones going to bash you on this board bro. Not on m watch any way.
Can you tell me a bit about yourself bro? do you come from another board? How many cycles have you don? do you know what pct is? Ya know things like that.
I must say I don't really like the tren a/anadrol mix very much.
Can you tell me a bit about yourself bro? do you come from another board? How many cycles have you don? do you know what pct is? Ya know things like that.
I must say I don't really like the tren a/anadrol mix very much.
What needto said ^^
Give us a little info about yourself....
Give us a little info about yourself....
test/tren/a-bomb mix? Whooweee. Someone's looking for some mondo strength out the wazooodle. Nice. Though, I do have to agree that is a pretty over the top idea. The 3 strongest aas mixed together. Definitely would be a very advanced cycle protocol.
Give us your info bro and we'd love to help you out.
needtogetaas
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Just what I was thinking. Also expect some sides.
Geez, didn't even think abou it. Drol sides mixed with tren sides = going to hell in a hand basket.
If he gets the typical headaches and shit HBP with drol, and the winded feeling, sweating and shaky sides from tren he's gonna feel like complete shit.
alrighty guys....my last cycle consisted of 600 mg test cyp EW, 300 mg deca EW and 50 mg dbol .....the test was ran for 12 weeks, deca for 10 and the dbol for 6. My stats are 5'9" 182 lbs.... 9% BF . Yes I know what PCT is and all that....i was just trying to get some input. Im trying to put on some big time size and strenght.....ive done anadrol before with test but never run tren. Should i run a different oral if i decide to go tren with test???
If you haven't run tren, use tren ace and test prop and you won't need a kicker oral. I haven't used tren either, but I hear it is a totally different beast. If you want strength, well you got it.
Do not use anadrol with tren if you haven't run tren before. Both can have nasty sides, and combined together would not be fun at all.
In fact, it will most likely kill you.
Just kidding. It won't kill you.
I don't think you there yet bro....from that combo there's no more upside, nothing will ever compare. Down the road when the other AAS is not working maybe...
If you want to gain mass and you into strong stuff try dbol/drol combo. Much better than tren/drol, and the gains are off the hook. Keep it at 4 weeks tops, and keep dosages mild.
If you want to gain mass and you into strong stuff try dbol/drol combo. Much better than tren/drol, and the gains are off the hook. Keep it at 4 weeks tops, and keep dosages mild.
The High Blood pressure and headaches from anadrol and tren together will get you feeling like shit.
yeah, except for the fact that tren gives better lean gains than drol and dbol combined and you can only be on a drol/dbol combo for a very short time.
better gains and longer cycle time? Yep, I'll take that one.
I dont thnk tren gives better gains than anadrol. Different cleaner gains? yes. More? hell no. I gain so much strength and mass on anadrol it's rediculous.
perryscoon
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tren + anadrol just has evil written all over it. You are picking the 2 steroids with the worst sides. Probably not a good idea. Just like I would probably never run dbol + tren. If you must take an oral with tren think about t-bol, var, or winny bro.
You COULD do it, but I think you're asking for some very nasty side effects. If you do try this combo, let us know how it goes. I'm very curious.
You COULD do it, but I think you're asking for some very nasty side effects. If you do try this combo, let us know how it goes. I'm very curious.
You don't need to be on drol/dbol for long that's the whole point, and it doesn't blow you up either....together these 2 compounds work differently than each one individualy.
I did say better LEAN gains, mind you.
As far as staying lean and stuff, sure. That's more what I was trying to get at. You can get the lean mass and near the strength without having to deal with the extreme water retention some people experience. That was my thought.
lol, I should have gone to bed like I said I was. I got shit going on though so I am waiting on it. Got some home made beef jerky brewing in the oven!
I did say better LEAN gains, mind you.
As far as staying lean and stuff, sure. That's more what I was trying to get at. You can get the lean mass and near the strength without having to deal with the extreme water retention some people experience. That was my thought.
lol, I should have gone to bed like I said I was. I got shit going on though so I am waiting on it. Got some home made beef jerky brewing in the oven!
I'm a sucker for a-bombs...
I'm a sucker for a-bombs...
Oh, I know you are. If your wife was a giant Androlic, you'd be the happiest man alive.
dbol is very estrogenic, and anadrol doesn't convert to estro, but raises progesterone levels like a bitch, so you have to deal with both of them, which promotes bloat from 2 different angles.
and 4 week cycles seem to be a roller coaster ride. UP you go, and then you come down.
not to mention the back pumps, headaches, HBP, and the increased liver "fuck ups" for using two orals...lol
Why would someone do that?
Btw, estrogenic and progestronic (sp?) will get your nuts to disappear.
Wouldn't want to deal with that crap at all. It's one or the other.
In this case, I would opt for just tren/test.
or
Use a-bombs for 4 weeks, then run test prop/tren ace for 8 weeks. 12 weeks on. fucking amazing gains.
well ok.... i think i def. wanna run anadrol and Im DEF. running test...what else could i run to help with bulk.....or possibly something at the end of the cycle to help keep my gains like anavar or winny?? ALSO....would running tren in the spring with test prop be good for getting cut up and leaned out???
needtogetaas
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You know what pct is? No aas helps you keep gains. Not unless ou are staying on them for life.
just tren and test IMO this time. Like I posted a little higher up, you could go:
1-4 anadrol
5-12 tren A
1-12 test p/E/c whichever you want
that would kick ass IMO.
You get lean and shredded with tren as wel as pu on a lot of quality mass, and you get huge with anadrol, but you carry a lot of water weight with it.
I guess it worked different for me...I had none of the sides you've posted. Keep dosages on the low side and you wont have those issues but the gains are great. The muscle I gained is still with me though
I do agree with you about the up strength....it was quick and it went down a bit afterwards
YOu get different gains from different compounds, I wanted to get some body parts up to par....btw, had full blood work done and liver, kidneys, estro etc all came back good. I wouldnt assume 2 orals will fuck you up...it's more about the dosage than type of oral.
It depends on the orals...using two orals that are very liver toxic at the same time can really hurt you...it's not a joke and it doesnt require someone with a degree in chemistry to tell you that...
that's true bro and I see your point of view but dosage play a huge part in that. Honestly this shit is not for everybody anyway but if you going to start looking into tren/drol then you moving up the ladder.
Just because tren is injectable does not mean it's kind on your body....and once you add a-bombs it's toxic not only on the liver but kidneys too but again dosage plays a big role.
It all come down to dosage really. If you have a drink everyday is not that bad on your liver but if you have 10 drinks everyday that's when the liver gets blasted. Steroids are the same....but if I'm wrong I stand corrected
True in it depending on dosages and kinds of oral aas, but i'm talking about taking two oral aas within the recommended dosage of each..that's a lot of toxicity for the liver bro
Honestly, we can only speculate that.
Either way you are going to get sick gains. One or the other is just fine. If you haven't used tren, maybe it's worth trying for you. I for one will probably never use it.
Bro, DaBuffGuy answered this question in an above post.
cobracock1979
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why not test/ tren/ dbol? Drol with Tren sounds like a horrid idea
Why don't you study up some more. Google is your friend.
Bro, we already told you the real life examples
Abombs will get you bulk size and great gains but with water retention and bloat...tren will get you size as well, not as much as anadrol, but cleaner gains
True. But, you asked a question and answered it in the same sentence.
So it appeared you were unsure, or you just want a second confirmation for peace of mind. Either way, now you know
There isn't anything written in stone about recommended dosages as far as I know. Just personal usage ppl talk about....unless you on HRT where doages are pretty much the same
But I do understand you your take on this bro, however the the entire point I wanted to make is that you can use 2 powerful steriods, at comfortable safe dosages to take advantage their synergistic effects....that's all, not to kill yourself
cobracock1979
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test a - 6 weeks
tren e e - 8 weeks
tren e e - 8 weeks
This (bolded) is incorrect. Anadrol will not raise progesterone levels. Studies have shown that Anadrol has no significant progestational effect. Actually, testosterone has a slight progestational effect (read: higher than Anadrol), and of course your nandrolones have a strong progestational effect.
You are correct in saying Anadrol cannot aromatize (convert to estrogen), because it is a DHT derivative.
Looking at the chemical structure of oxymetholone, and knowing that users have still experienced estrogenic sides, it is concluded that it is an estrogen agonist.
If you take Anadrol and use caber or bromo as prophylaxis for progesterone sides, you could still get estrogen sides. Your caber and bromo will be useless (not to mention wasted money).
BTW, our friend William Llewellyn wrote about this in his "Anabolics" series of books.
As for the test/drol/tren combo...you'd definitely gain size and strength. I think as long as someone had experience with these drugs seperately (esp. tren/drol), and did their homework and watched for sides and d/c if sides got too bad, they could definitely do well with this combo. But, it wouldn't be for everyone. It especially wouldn't be for someone who's never done either drug, or who hasn't done each drug independent of the other.
I've never had estrogen from anadrol, though I've always had nolvadex on hand, I've never used it. Why nolvadex?
"Studies have shown that anadrol has reported no significant progestational effect inherent in oxymethelone, but it is likely that oxymethelone can intrisincally activate the estrogen receptor itself..."
Anadrol | Anadrol - cycle, overview and description, Anadrol - photos | www.silownia.net
I've use anadrol more than 8 times in different cycles, or alone...I'm probably one of the most experienced "pusher' of anadrol on here...I've done up to 10 weeks of anadrol 50 at 200mgs ed once, not even a slight feel for estrogen conversion...not saying everyone should do this, but just saying that while on anadrol, gyno is the least of your worries.
Is there an echo in here???
For YOU maybe this is true. But, that doesn't mean everyone reacts the same as you. Some guys get gyno off 400 mgs Test/wk, others can use 800 mgs/wk and not get gyno. For you to say that gyno is the least of anyone's worries while on anadrol is just ignorant. You should know better.
I've gotten gyno first week on dbols, but never on anadrol.
If I'm on 350mgs of test e a weeks or test prop, I get gyno...but not anadrol.
That's why I said "I'm not saying everyone should do this"
It works for me....Big time...and a couple of bros on here seem to share my opinions about anadrol not converting to estrogen and not being a ver big on gyno...
If you believe that to be untrue, that makes you someone with an opinion, and doens't necessarily make me ignorant
I've gotten gyno first week on dbols, but never on anadrol.
If I'm on 350mgs of test e a weeks or test prop, I get gyno...but not anadrol.
That's why I said "I'm not saying everyone should do this"
It works for me....Big time...and a couple of bros on here seem to share my opinions about anadrol not converting to estrogen and not being a ver big on gyno...
If you believe that to be untrue, that makes you someone with an opinion, and doens't necessarily make me ignorant
Dude...come on. How did you possibly misinterpret what was said by both of us?
the_alcatraz said:
Looks to me like you were saying, "not saying everyone should do this," about the stupid dose of 200 mgs ed of anadrol for 10 weeks. Which is true! Not everyone should do that...probably not necessary for anyone who is using real drol that is properly dosed to go above 100 mgs/day.
Then you followed that right up with, "but just saying that while on anadrol, gyno is the least of your worries."
So, you were "just saying" that "while on anadrol, gyno is the least of your worries." That was an ignorant statement "IMO" because it appears that you are saying because you don't get any gyno from anadrol, neither should anyone else. Read your post again and tell me if it can be concluded any differently.
And, it's not "your opinion" that anadrol doesn't convert to estrogen...it's a DHT derivative, so it's "scientific fact" that says anadrol doesn't convert to estrogen. BUT...some users have gotten gyno from anadrol (as I explained in my earlier post) because it is an estrogen agonist.
