Next cycle

[bigbox]

Ok, I'm getting ready to stock up on my next cycle. Since my last cycle over a year ago, I started out in MMA, so this cycle will be to put on more lean mass and work on more endurance rather than massive size gains. Also, I want to keep it clean as possible. Here's my cycle for 14 weeks:

200mg test cyp/wk
400mg EQ/wk
50mg VAR/daily
400mg mast. /wk

I'm thinking about substituting sustanon for cyp. Also, wouldn't the masteron keep off water retention and fight off gyno, or would I need to add nolva? What kind of PCT should go along with this??

 

[DaveTSI]

well 14 weeks of anavar is a horrible idea

keeping cardio up is your main focus being in mma, and if you have a fight coming up, id cycle up to it to bring you in to the fight in the best possible shape. is that the case?

350mg cyp 1-12
400mg eq 1-12
50mg var 8-14

you can do hcg throughout the cycle or i would personally start it around week 12-13. your cardio would be 110% at the end of that cycle being on var and eq.

 

[bigbox]

Nah, I'm not good enough to fight yet, only been doing this for about a year, more than anything I just want to improve on my fighting and get in top fighting shape while being able to retain as much as possible.

 

[HAYEZ]

prop 100 eod 1-10
masteron 150 eod 1-10
var 60 eod 1-6

better then the long acting..they always seem to bloat me..prop never does..throw in the masteron you wont need anythign else besides some hcg during and nolva/sustain for pct

 

[needtogetaas]

Ok, I'm getting ready to stock up on my next cycle. Since my last cycle over a year ago, I started out in MMA, so this cycle will be to put on more lean mass and work on more endurance rather than massive size gains. Also, I want to keep it clean as possible. Here's my cycle for 14 weeks:

200mg test cyp/wk
400mg EQ/wk
50mg VAR/daily
400mg mast. /wk

I'm thinking about substituting sustanon for cyp. Also, wouldn't the masteron keep off water retention and fight off gyno, or would I need to add nolva? What kind of PCT should go along with this??

I would switch out the test for test prop. Other then that cycle looks fine. Run hcg 500iu's starting week 5 till end of cycle. 3 weeks after cycle start pct with the test recovery stack from PP. get with me for big discounts on the pp stack and where to get it.

 

[bigcountry61]

that cycle is gonna kick ass!!!

 

[the_alcatraz]

Ok, I'm getting ready to stock up on my next cycle. Since my last cycle over a year ago, I started out in MMA, so this cycle will be to put on more lean mass and work on more endurance rather than massive size gains. Also, I want to keep it clean as possible. Here's my cycle for 14 weeks:

200mg test cyp/wk
400mg EQ/wk
50mg VAR/daily
400mg mast. /wk

I'm thinking about substituting sustanon for cyp. Also, wouldn't the masteron keep off water retention and fight off gyno, or would I need to add nolva? What kind of PCT should go along with this??

Here's my 0.02:

1- why are you using masteron? I'd only use it before competition. I would switch it with something that would allow me to add quality mass, and get shredded, i.e. winstrol

2- Why not Sustanon 250 instead of test cyp. Maybe 500mg susta / wk?

PCT: HCG + CLOMID

 

[eddymerckx]

well 14 weeks of anavar is a horrible idea

keeping cardio up is your main focus being in mma, and if you have a fight coming up, id cycle up to it to bring you in to the fight in the best possible shape. is that the case?

350mg cyp 1-12
400mg eq 1-12
50mg var 8-14

you can do hcg throughout the cycle or i would personally start it around week 12-13. your cardio would be 110% at the end of that cycle being on var and eq.

i like this better^^^---and with those doses 250-500 hcg every 5 days > week 4.

cyp is better for mass--prop would keep you a bit leaner throughout

 

[bigbox]

I've thought seriously about switching the cyp for sust, never have tried prop though. The only reason I had masteron in there was to keep down any water retention I might have. Should I ditch it completely or add winny?? Prop actually sounds good!! What do you guys think between prop and sust?? Don't run anavar throughout?? I want to build up cardio a lot more, not neccessarily looking for size gains as much. Thanks bros!!

 

[bigbox]

lol I tried to give k to everyone who replied!!

 

[the_alcatraz]

I've thought seriously about switching the cyp for sust, never have tried prop though. The only reason I had masteron in there was to keep down any water retention I might have. Should I ditch it completely or add winny?? Prop actually sounds good!! What do you guys think between prop and sust?? Don't run anavar throughout?? I want to build up cardio a lot more, not neccessarily looking for size gains as much. Thanks bros!!

If you're not lookin for much size, I'd say prop like needto said is the way to go. Switch the Masteron to winstrol / stanazolol

 

[bigbox]

Prop it is!! Also, I'm thinking about running 600mg primo each week. I could cut down on the var like you guys were saying too, only take it for the last 4. Should I keep the prop at 200 or up it to 350??

 

[the_alcatraz]

Prop it is!! Also, I'm thinking about running 600mg primo each week. I could cut down on the var like you guys were saying too, only take it for the last 4. Should I keep the prop at 200 or up it to 350??

you can increase the prop a notch...

primo is pretty expensive bro, but it's pretty much the exact same thing as masteron....I'd stick to winstrol / stanazolol if I were you

 

[bigbox]

Winstrol it is!! So this is what I have right now...

wk 1-12 prop 350, EQ 400 and winstrol ??
wk 8-14 50mg VAR daily...

What would be a good dosage for the winny??

 

[needtogetaas]

you can increase the prop a notch...

primo is pretty expensive bro, but it's pretty much the exact same thing as masteron....I'd stick to winstrol / stanazolol if I were you

Fuck winny. undesirable results on Cholesterol, and a mere 6mgs/day of Stanozolol can lower HDL by 33% and raise LDL by 29% (3). Cardiac Hypertrophy, even at lower doses could be a concern with Winstrol as well.
hars on the joints to. I am thinking thats not what a mma fighter wants.

Living prof right here. After just 2-3 weeks of 50mg ed and my hdl/ldl went from normal to 197/17 or something close.

I am a avid fuck winny promoter lol.

 

[needtogetaas]

Ok, I'm getting ready to stock up on my next cycle. Since my last cycle over a year ago, I started out in MMA, so this cycle will be to put on more lean mass and work on more endurance rather than massive size gains. Also, I want to keep it clean as possible. Here's my cycle for 14 weeks:

200mg test cyp/wk
400mg EQ/wk
50mg VAR/daily
400mg mast. /wk

I'm thinking about substituting sustanon for cyp. Also, wouldn't the masteron keep off water retention and fight off gyno, or would I need to add nolva? What kind of PCT should go along with this??

Here it is.
1-14 100mg prop ed
1-14 eq 400mg ew
1-14 400mg primo not mast ew
no need for the var or the mast with this cycle. Unless you really need that much juice lol.

6-16 hcg 500ui's ew
18-22 test recovery stack from pp.

Keep letro and adex on hand. That cycle will do everything you want it to and its clean as a nuns vagina. Just expect to pin a lot lol.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Fuck winny. undesirable results on Cholesterol, and a mere 6mgs/day of Stanozolol can lower HDL by 33% and raise LDL by 29% (3). Cardiac Hypertrophy, even at lower doses could be a concern with Winstrol as well.
hars on the joints to. I am thinking thats not what a mma fighter wants.

Living prof right here. After just 2-3 weeks of 50mg ed and my hdl/ldl went from normal to 197/17 or something close.

I am a avid fuck winny promoter lol.

I fuckin love winstrol bro. I get shredded on that shit.

 

[eddymerckx]

Here it is.
1-14 100mg prop ed
1-14 eq 400mg ew
1-14 400mg primo not mast ew
no need for the var or the mast with this cycle. Unless you really need that much juice lol.

6-16 hcg 500ui's ew
18-22 test recovery stack from pp.

Keep letro and adex on hand. That cycle will do everything you want it to and its clean as a nuns vagina. Just expect to pin a lot lol.

killer cycle.....but i wonder if 700/week of prop is a bit for your purposes--rather see it around 500.

 

[needtogetaas]

killer cycle.....but i wonder if 700/week of prop is a bit for your purposes--rather see it around 500.

Ya you got a point there. Prob drop it to 100mg eod

 

[cobracock1979]

Looks good. I dont like Winny either - the dryness f*cks with my liftin.

 

[bigcountry61]

I like needto's cycle but I would keep the var, shit is just too good

 

[bigbox]

1-14 100mg prop eod
1-14 eq 400mg ew
1-14 400mg primo not mast ew

Would I really have to inject IM prop EOD or could I inject 200mg twice per week?? I enjoy needles and all, but how often can I inject into the same muscle? I've been skeptical on taking winny because I didn't want my joints to dry up, so I'm quite happy with this. I already have the var on the way, but if you guys think it would be a waste of time I could hold it off until next cycle. Thanks bros!!

 

[HAYEZ]

1-14 100mg prop eod
1-14 eq 400mg ew
1-14 400mg primo not mast ew

Would I really have to inject IM prop EOD or could I inject 200mg twice per week?? I enjoy needles and all, but how often can I inject into the same muscle? I've been skeptical on taking winny because I didn't want my joints to dry up, so I'm quite happy with this. I already have the var on the way, but if you guys think it would be a waste of time I could hold it off until next cycle. Thanks bros!!

prop eod...plenty of places to shoot.... delts quads glutes...that is 6 shots worth right there eod 12 days before hitting same spot again

 

[cobracock1979]

why not test e twice a week? More bang for your £ and less pins