next cycle...

[LOL72]

hey guys ....i javent been pn in a while and well now that thing have settled down around here i can finally come back. I wanted to let everyone know my first cycle went great i gained 20lbs and kept 15 of that....i was using test cyp....i have been off of the test for about 4 months..... I also posted this to hear everyones view on my next cycle i am thinking of. I am thinking of going with a Deca and Test stack for another bulker and after that start thinking of a cutting cycle.... well this is where all of you come in what do yall thikn of a combinging deca and test. how much of each would u recomend and how many times a week...also if you think something else would be better than let feel free to post your idea...thanks to everyone who replies i appreciate your time..

 

[thezan]

The elite well likely need some stats from ya first, you probably posted them before but much easier for vets to recommend with stats in this post. Last dosage you used, weight, age, all that fancy stuff....you know it

 

[jmead]

assuming that you ran 500mg test c..and have AI and anti progestins on hand..

500mg test
300-400mg deca
AIFM
8-10 wks
PCT

if you ran less than 500 test.. id stay with that and just throw in the deca around 300-400 a week.. youll grow pretty good since its new to your body.

 

[LOL72]

The elite well likely need some stats from ya first, you probably posted them before but much easier for vets to recommend with stats in this post. Last dosage you used, weight, age, all that fancy stuff....you know it

NOW
215
6'1"
b/f-not sure on that but its not high
i only used 250mg a week of cyp (i went vary light)

THEN
200
6'1"
b/f%- idk but i know it wasnt high

 

[LOL72]

bump

 

[ProtienFiend]

If I were to do the two Id do:

400mg Test Cyp (or 500mg depending on your concentration)
200mg Deca

10wks 1 injection (or 2 if you prefer) each week

Always keep your test higher than your deca to keep side effect manageable. If you use an AI and youre still getting gyno it is most likely the activity of the deca. Since AI's dont block the Deca's side effects you may have to drop it from your cycle. At this dosage you should be fine though.

You should get great results as this is more than double your last dosage but still a reasonable amount. Heck you could even cut the dosages I posted in half just to "test the waters" and see how you react.

PF

 

[LOL72]

thanks to those who have replied..do yall think this is a good 2nd cycle?

 

[LOL72]

bump.....any other suggestions?

 

[mikematt06]

this will be a great 2nd cycle as long as you have diet in check. why not kickstart it with an oral?

 

[LOL72]

this will be a great 2nd cycle as long as you have diet in check. why not kickstart it with an oral?

why not!!! haha

 

[jmead]

why not!!! haha

you wont have to drop the deca if you continue to get gyno.. just get some bromocryptine or dostinex or b6 to combat the nan' sides.. i think its a good 2nd cycle, i kinda wish i woulda ran deca/test instead of eq/test/dbol. but i think ill be happy with my results either way..

id say stick with around 250-300 test c since thats what u ran before and just throw in the deca at 200-300mg a week
but have your pct lined up.. deca shuts most people down hard.. "deca dick"

 

[LOL72]

you wont have to drop the deca if you continue to get gyno.. just get some bromocryptine or dostinex or b6 to combat the nan' sides.. i think its a good 2nd cycle, i kinda wish i woulda ran deca/test instead of eq/test/dbol. but i think ill be happy with my results either way..

id say stick with around 250-300 test c since thats what u ran before and just throw in the deca at 200-300mg a week
but have your pct lined up.. deca shuts most people down hard.. "deca dick"

ya i heard that i should run a higher dose of test than deca becuz of that reason...now wut do yall think of 250 test E 2x a week and like 300-400 of deca only once a week....or do u thiknm i should spilt that into 2x also?

 

[black sheep]

I would use NPP instead of Deca.

Week 1-10 Test E 250mg e3d
Week 1-8 NPP 200mg e3d
Week 1-4 D-Bol 30mg ED

NPP will yeild less sides than deca, and if you get bad sides it will clear out much faster when you stop than deca. The nice thing about the phenyl-propionate ester is you can shoot e3d. If you get 200mg/ml NPP you can shott 1cc of test and 1cc of NPP e3d - Easy as pie.

Make sure your PCT, diet, and training is in line before you start.

 

[LOL72]

I would use NPP instead of Deca.

Week 1-10 Test E 250mg e3d
Week 1-8 NPP 200mg e3d
Week 1-4 D-Bol 30mg ED

NPP will yeild less sides than deca, and if you get bad sides it will clear out much faster when you stop than deca. The nice thing about the phenyl-propionate ester is you can shoot e3d. If you get 200mg/ml NPP you can shott 1cc of test and 1cc of NPP e3d - Easy as pie.

Make sure your PCT, diet, and training is in line before you start.

idk much about npp could u recomend somewhere i can read up on it or if not could u tall me a little about it?

 

[black sheep]

idk much about npp could u recomend somewhere i can read up on it or if not could u tall me a little about it?

NPP is Nandrolone Phenyl-Propionate. Deca is Nandrolone with the long Deconate ester. NPP is Nandrolone with the shorter PP ester. Much like the difference between Test E, and Test P - Except the PP ester is longer than the plain Prop.

It works faster, less sides, and better results IMO. Most people who have bad sides with deca dont get them with NPP.

 

[ProtienFiend]

I would use NPP instead of Deca.

Week 1-10 Test E 250mg e3d
Week 1-8 NPP 200mg e3d
Week 1-4 D-Bol 30mg ED

NPP will yeild less sides than deca, and if you get bad sides it will clear out much faster when you stop than deca. The nice thing about the phenyl-propionate ester is you can shoot e3d. If you get 200mg/ml NPP you can shott 1cc of test and 1cc of NPP e3d - Easy as pie.

Make sure your PCT, diet, and training is in line before you start.

Sorry man but I have to disagree. Its his second cycle and hes gotten great gains from 250mg/wk ..... he does not need a gram of gear a week.

PF

 

[juicedmick]

I would use NPP instead of Deca.

Week 1-10 Test E 250mg e3d
Week 1-8 NPP 200mg e3d
Week 1-4 D-Bol 30mg ED

NPP will yeild less sides than deca, and if you get bad sides it will clear out much faster when you stop than deca. The nice thing about the phenyl-propionate ester is you can shoot e3d. If you get 200mg/ml NPP you can shott 1cc of test and 1cc of NPP e3d - Easy as pie.

Make sure your PCT, diet, and training is in line before you start.

Bump-great cycle and info right there

 

[LOL72]

thanks everyone for the replys....i have to talk to my guy and see if he can get this NPP stuff and how much....but one question has ne one heard of pennicle labs?

 

[LOL72]

thanks everyone for the replys....i have to talk to my guy and see if he can get this NPP stuff and how much....but one question has ne one heard of pennicle labs?

anyone?

 

[Selene]

very good advise and good luck with cycle

 

[choco]

the cycles that you guys are posting aren`t very long.
how long do you stopp with juicing after a cycle that lasts 10 weeks ?
is it like
a) 10 weeks on 10 weeks off 10 weeks on
or like
b) 10 weeks on long time off then 10 weeks on ?

@lol 72
how long was your first cycle and how long was the break ?

thanx for infos guys !
greets

 

[black sheep]

the cycles that you guys are posting aren`t very long.
how long do you stopp with juicing after a cycle that lasts 10 weeks ?
is it like
a) 10 weeks on 10 weeks off 10 weeks on
or like
b) 10 weeks on long time off then 10 weeks on ?

@lol 72
how long was your first cycle and how long was the break ?

thanx for infos guys !
greets

Get your own thread.

 

[MR. BMJ]

250 test every 3 days with 200mg NPP every three days.

AIFM and PCT

10-12 weeks + PCT

BMJ