Next cycle

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Heres what im plannin on for my next cycle. Im lookin for as much muscle gain as possible

Weeks1-12 TestE 250mg every 4 days
Weeks1-11 Deca 200mg every 4 days
Weeks1-4 Dbol 30mg a day

Tamoxifen 10mg a day,Milk thistle 1050mg a day

PCT- 14 days after last test. Day1 300mg clomid
Day2-11 100mg clomid
Day12-21 50mg clomid and tamoxifen for the whole 21 days aswel.

Ill use hcg around 3 weeks ito the cycle ,or as soon as shrinkage occurs, for 2 weeks at 500iu's twice a week and again in weeks 11,12&13 to get back to normal size. Trust me, from past experience ill need the HCG

Any comments/criticisms are more than welcome

 

[fergie]

just a suggestion.... use T-Bol instead of D-bol and bump the test e up to 500mg's, you'll get more quality gains.

 

[transform]

Iv heard of tbol but iv used dbol before and got great gains. I dont really mind the water retention while on it either.

What are these karmic points and hits in the profile area?

 

[transform]

quick question:with regards to the above cycle, would putting tbol in instead of dbol at 40mg a day and for an extra week or 2 produce the same amount of muscle gains? I know it wont blow ya up like dbol because theres little water retention, but how would it stand against dbol in terms of muscle and strenght gains and i presume it kicks in fast?

Also, tbol isnt very androgenic, so would i risk being shut down by running 40mg tbol with the deca, or would that dose of test be enough to keep me "workin"?

 

[Bruce]

you can't compare like that bro, dbol is gonna fill you with water so you will think you have gained 20 pounds real quick. the tbol is going to give you quality gains that you will keep, fergie is the tbol expert, he says that 4 weeks is the longest tbol will be effective. i have been told this by several others as well. anything is gonna shut you down primo and var i don't care what anyone says. so yes, if you want know test use 250 ius of hcg a week to keep your levels up and the boys up to size. peace

 

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No id still use test, but would it be enough to keep me from shuttin down is what i was wonderin?

 

[fergie]

If you mean your sex drive yes thats enough

 

[transform]

Thanks fergie. Do you know how well tbol would do against dbol, when all the pct has finished and the smoke has cleared and the fans are through chanting your name, how would it compare to dbol in muscle mass youd keep?Any idea

 

[Bruce]

Thanks fergie. Do you know how well tbol would do against dbol, when all the pct has finished and the smoke has cleared and the fans are through chanting your name, how would it compare to dbol in muscle mass youd keep?Any idea

bro i am dying laughing at the fans clapping thing. everything you got from the tbol you would keep, dbol you will shrink and lose the strength gains. tbol bro trust me, if you can get it use it. i cannot wait to start it in 9 weeks tommorow

 

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Thanks guys. Got that fans chanting thing from the rock. Damn he was cool....

 

[UFC22]

I like the new cycle better than the oral only by far bro! I would recommend T-bol also for your first 4 wks. Test and Deca get the best of both worlds.

 

[Bruce]

oh yeah, ufc22 said it, deca and test is a nasty little combo, so adding that tbol is more than enough, dbol isn't necessary with the mass you'll be puttin on, you gotta eat though, and have plenty of fans chearing

 

[icetoby]

those milk thistle pills taste like ass! screw them!

 

[transform]

Thanks ufc, but the ither cycle posted was a cycle a guy i know is plannin. Im lookin to do a real muscle buildin cycle, and since i heard of tbol and started readin up on it, i have to say it sounds as good as dbol

 

[transform]

oh yeah, ufc22 said it, deca and test is a nasty little combo, so adding that tbol is more than enough, dbol isn't necessary with the mass you'll be puttin on, you gotta eat though, and have plenty of fans chearing

Will do mate, ill make em cheer til theyre hoarse

 

[Bruce]

Will do mate, ill make em cheer til theyre hoarse

didn't realize you were irish, k to you bro. proud member of the delaney family, though it isn't my last name, biggest irish fam in usa i think

 

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didn't realize you were irish, k to you bro. proud member of the delaney family, though it isn't my last name, biggest irish fam in usa i think

Good to know . iv alot of relatives in the US, dont know any of them or ever spoken to them, but theyre there according to geneology or whatever that family tracing thing is called.