Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Hey guys i was hoping for some input from u guys with "Experience" I just finished my Test En cycle about a month ago currently still on PCT.I wanna plan out my next cycle for around february but i wanna make sure i have all i need by then.I was thinking either finaplex and some winnie on the other hand i was thinking some suspension and hcg but not sure what else to stack with it ? ive done Test En 2 x's b4 at 500 ml a week and not to crazy about results.So i know Test EN pretty well as far as what to stack and pct but im not sure of my next cycle.So if i can get some of ur oppinions id appreciate it i wanna start acumulating what i need ASAP thanks for ur time i look forward to hearing from u guys peace
Next cycle Suspension ?
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What are your goals with the cycle ? I would never use Suspension as a base to any cycle. IMO it's more of something to use for the first 4-5 weeks to give an added "kick"
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Well i was just reading more on suspension and see that after discontinuing use u lose gains rapidly and i dont want that.I want lean mass that i can keep most of results.Im 6'2 207lbs ive done 2 cycles of test at 500 ml a week and allthough i did get good gains i wasnt to impressed.So i wanna try something new that gives me noticable results any suggestions ?
Well IMO Test should be the base of any cycle! That being said, you have plenty of options that should help you achive what your going for. Test/Anavar (My personal fav) Test/Eq Test/Deca Test/Winstrol. Which ever one you choose, I'd run Anastrozole through out the cycle at .50mg/Day until your PCT is finished. That will eliminate the bloat and the chances of Gyno. The rest is up to your diet 
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iceman7230
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If you can't grow on 500mgs of test something is wrong with your training or probably more-so your diet.
When you are bulking you need to eat a lot of good calories. Carbs, fat, and protein. I am talking like having a meal every 2.5 hours ed. If you are still not growing up your intake by 500 calories ed. Keep raising if you see no results.
First get your diet down then do:
1-12 Test e 500mgs ew
1-10 Deca 400mgs ew
1-4 DBol 30mgs ed
If you do not grow on this awesome mass building cycle something is wrong
When you are bulking you need to eat a lot of good calories. Carbs, fat, and protein. I am talking like having a meal every 2.5 hours ed. If you are still not growing up your intake by 500 calories ed. Keep raising if you see no results.
First get your diet down then do:
1-12 Test e 500mgs ew
1-10 Deca 400mgs ew
1-4 DBol 30mgs ed
If you do not grow on this awesome mass building cycle something is wrong
My diet was in check i was eating around 4000 cals a day eating every 3hrs protien intake always around 200 give or take.I had results but i put my friend on the same ruitine and he blew up alot more then me and his diet was terrible.Maybe i just have a higher natural test then him not sure.Either way i thaught id try something different also i stacked the last test with EQ and used hcg for pct because i didnt get the hcg till the last week of cycle.i ran a 13 week cycle.Point is i did that did my research on it aswell as pct and now i wanna try somthing new.Im gonna look into the cycle u just mentioned and ask a few more questions.Thanks alot for ur time i appreciate ur oppinion
Ok so what about pct ? and should i incorperate HCG during this cycle ? i still have a full bottle of clomid and some nolvadex left over but i should be able to get anything i need
iceman7230
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What is your height, weight, age?
6'2 207 lbs 28
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ALIN
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TEST SUSP is an awesome AAS,,,but be prepared for daily injects.
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no suspension yet.
try the test/dbol/deca
if you haven't used dbol yet oh my just wait.
actually either test/dbol, test/deca, or test/dbol/deca will all yield great muscle gains.
i agree
30mg dbol 1-4
500mg test 1-10
400mg deca 1-10
this cycle will make you large. it was once said that if you can't grow off deca and dbol you can't grow at all.
try the test/dbol/deca
if you haven't used dbol yet oh my just wait.
actually either test/dbol, test/deca, or test/dbol/deca will all yield great muscle gains.
i agree
30mg dbol 1-4
500mg test 1-10
400mg deca 1-10
this cycle will make you large. it was once said that if you can't grow off deca and dbol you can't grow at all.
Well that sounds like a good cycle to me thanks im gonna get what i need so i can start around feb.Now can i mix it with the T to inject ? and should i do some hcg during aswell ? and what about pct ? just use nolva and TRS from PP ? let me know i wanna make sure im fully prepared for this last time i used hcg at end of cycle and i did eq for 8 weeks then started test so it was 10 weeks of eq in 8th week i started test e and ran that for 13 weeks.I know confusing thats why i wanna have everything ready b4 hand LOL thanks alot bro peace
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iceman7230
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During cycle you want to have:
1.Arimadex-start week 1 and use .25mgs ed(go to .5 if nipples get sensative
2.Cabasser-start week one and take .5mgs e3d
3.Letro-keep on hand if arimadex does not work
5.HCG-either do 500ius e5d during cycle or wait till 1 week after last shot and do 1500ius e3d for 2 weeks then start pct
PCT:
HCG-like shown above
Arimadex- .5mgs ed for 4 weeks
Sustain Alpha-start after hcg and use for 4 weeks
Unleashed and Post cycle- Use the same as the sustain
You shouldn't need the nolva or clomid
U say
"Arimadex-start week 1 and use .25mgs ed(go to .5 if nipples get sensative
2.Cabasser-start week one and take .5mgs e3d" But for how long entire cycle ? I have my Dbol,test and deca just trying to get arimedex Letro,Hcg and Cabaser
"Arimadex-start week 1 and use .25mgs ed(go to .5 if nipples get sensative
2.Cabasser-start week one and take .5mgs e3d" But for how long entire cycle ? I have my Dbol,test and deca just trying to get arimedex Letro,Hcg and Cabaser
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Heath82
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do not start adex until you need it!!! if you do .50mg ed you will absolutly kill your cycle! if you start to get gyno, run .25mg eod. this is PLENTY, and if its not bump it up a little. im guessin your not too gyno prone from test since youve done a couple of cycles already, so the cabasser should be all you need with tren... or you could just add winny
needtogetaas
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With out proper pct you will lose gains on any gear. Do you know what pct is?
iceman7230
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You don't know what you are talking about bro!
My last cycle I gained 20lbs and kept 15 of it on 1mg Adex through out the whole cycle. I went from 230 to 245.
Try not to speak about things you have no idea about!
whether or not he's run test before has nothing to do with whether or not he is gyno prone.
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Heath82
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why did you run that? are you gyno prone? did you try a lesser dose? if you ran 1mg a day for no reason (or to keep off water, wich can be controlled simply by diet) all you did is waste your money. i told him if he started to get gyno start with .25mg eod. but theres no reason to run it if you dont need it. i dont need it, and im damn sure not gonna spend a couple of hundred bucks to take someting that will not benifit me.
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Heath82
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it has everything to do with it! if hes ran 2 cycles and not got gyno, hes obviously not gyno prone to that type... nandrolones is a different story since he hasnt tried them before, and i told him to run cabasser or winny to combat it if it happens
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Heath82
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bump
ummm, am i the only one who caught this? sounds like he has a problem with his fridge first and foremost....the hinges aren't squeeking on it yet.
iceman7230
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1. Yes I am gyno prone.
2. I always start at .25mgs ed and go up if nessesary.
3. You can not completly control water weight when running steroids! I would like to see you stay waterless on Dbol.
4. I obviosly used 1mg for a reason so it was not a waste of money.
5. You are different than me and I am not telling you to take unnessesary ai's. I was schooling you in on how one can still gain massive amounts of muscle on 1mg of adex.
Sounds like you are wasting alot of money on your adex spending that much money!
ummm, am i the only one who caught this? sounds like he has a problem with his fridge first and foremost....the hinges aren't squeeking on it yet.
What do u mean by that ?
Yes i know what pct is i just finished my pct from my last cycle and im ready to start my new cycle.Whats ur oppinion Need to ? I have my test deca and dbol also have some nolva left over from b4 and a full bottle of clomid i never used also have a bottle of unleashed and post cycle.My plan was to run 1-12 test E 500 ew 1-10 Deca 400 ew 1-4 dbol 30 mg ed im trying to get some hcg during cycle.What would u do for pct? and how soon should i start next cycle after past pct ?
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Heath82
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1. ok, but this guy doesnt claim to be.
2. i agree this (or even eod) is a good starting place... if symptoms occur
3. yes you can. with diet/cardio/diuretics you can stay dry on anything!
4. maybe for you, but for me it is. also what cycle were you running? were you running several grams a week? or are you just that sensitive?
5. i am different from you, just like you are diff from the op. you advised him to take something he may not need. if you had said "if needed" i would understand. but you told him to take damn near every ai available.
i keep everything on hand, and running adex 1mg a day would be in the hundreds. i can buy a weeks worth of food for that!
