Newbie New Cycle Please Help

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i'm 19 years old 160lbs and 6 feet tall. i want to get anywhere around 180-200lbs. i HATE the idea of water rentention and losing my strength and mass gains after doing a cycle. i was thinking of taking d'bol in conjunction with sust, proviron, and novaldex and ending it with two weeks of hcg in a diamond pattern cycle but sust is expensive! so i was thinking maybe i could start d'bol for a few weeks by itself then start on the sust to cut down costs

week 1-2 - 15mg d'bol, 20mg novaldex, 50mg proviron daily per week
week 3 - 20mg d'bol, 20mg novaldex, 50mg proviron daily per week
week 4-5 - 25mg d'bol, 20mg novaldex, 50mg proviron daily 250mg sust week
week 6-7 - 30mg d'bol, 20mg novaldex, 50mg proviron daily 250mg sust week
week 8 - 35mg d'bol, 20mg novaldex, 50mg proviron daily 500mg sust week
week 9 - 25mg d'bol, 20mg novaldex, 50mg proviron daily 250mg sust week
week 10 - 20mg d'bol, 20mg novaldex, 50mg proviron daily 250mg sust week
week 11-12 - 15mg d'bol, 20mg novaldex, 50mg proviron
week 13-14 - 1cc HCG, 20 mg novaldex, 25mg proviron

whaddya guys think?

 

[theoak01]

I think you should eat much more and you will get where you want to be and never have to worry about getting bloated or losing strength

when your eating around 250g prot minimum a day,with about 3000cals and still not gaining,up it to 3500 and so on until you grow

 

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what about the cycle though? do you think it's a good first cycle? is it effective/will it work? etc.

 

[Paulo]

in your words, what is the purpose of the proviron? except for post cycle maybe. Also, I don't see much need to micromanage your dbol intake, nor take it for twelve weeks. 4 weeks max at 30mg daily

Finally, you're 19. but whatever. I won't go into that. You're an adult and its your body.

 

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I'm kind of confused as to when to start the Novaldex and Proviron stack. some say it is best to do it DURING a cycle to prevent problems, others say I should use it when i see signs of problems. The proviron I've heard prevents water retention problems. If you could help me out as to when to take the Novaldex/Proviron/HCG that would be great, and any ideas on the sust? Thanks.

 

[Outtlaw]

whaddya guys think?

I think that cycle sucks. You've got a lot to learn.

 

[Paulo]

sust for the twelve weeks
dbol for the first four

sust is not expensive. try looking at a primo cycle, lol.

look into liquidex, letrozole, or aromasin throughout the cycle.

nolva incase gyno symptoms appear.

read the PCT sticky at the top of the anabolic forum page.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=311693

 

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what's a primo cycle? and how much of the sust and dbol should i take? what should i take for post cycle recovery? and any ideas as to where to buy? i'm not sure as to the reliability of some of the websites and since this is my first time i would like to know your suggestions. thanks for all your help -Dave

 

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what's a primo cycle? and how much of the sust and dbol should i take? and any ideas as to where to buy? i'm not sure as to the reliability of some of the websites and since this is my first time i would like to know your suggestions. thanks for all your help -Dave

 

[Paulo]

I hope you didn't just ask for a source.

unless of course you were referring to ancillaries.

then try www.ancillaryguys.com

 

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i've read some pretty bad reviews on primo, but right now i think i'll probably go with your suggestion of sust for all 12 weeks, dbol for four, and liquidex but how much should i take?

 

[CLOMIDCLOWN]

500mg/week sus weeks 1-10 (injecting 250 on mon and thurs)
30mg/day Dbol week 1-4
.5g arimidex e3d throughout cycle for bloat and gyno issues
hcg midway through cycle for 10 days at 500iu/day
clomid therapy according to radars sticky at top of forum (learn PCT)

 

[shortstack]

this is going to be funny, i can see it.

 

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would the Novaldex Post Cycle work as well instead of the clomid?
Days 1-14 ->50mg each day,
Days 15-30 -> 20mg each day

 

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is there anything i can take instead of Arimidex? the price is pretty high...

 

[bw1]

Bro, take a breath and do some serious research before attempting a cycle.

 

[alxx11uml]

what do you guys think of a winny/d-bol stack

 

[Paulo]

is there anything i can take instead of Arimidex? the price is pretty high...

Arimidex = Anastrozole = liquidex . Its all the same chemical.

 

[small but working on it]

I cannot believe the flaming has not occured.

 

[monkey arms]

what do you guys think of a winny/d-bol stack

We are all here to help but you need to do alot of research yourself. You have access to the internet, get a pen and paper write down all of the stuff you don't understand and look it up!

Diets, carbs, protein, fat, how they are metabolized how many calories they each have. How many you should eat and at what ratios and times during the day.

Training, splits, 5x5, high intensity, high weight, low volume, rest.

Different steroids, their esters,their use, their halflife, dosage, their nick names, routes of administration, their side effects, the laws regarding use, penatlies for getting caught with them.

This board is a great resource but you can't expect to be helped without doing alot of leg work on your own. If you continue to ask uniformed, un researched questions, people will stop helping you.

 

[italiansavagebeast]

I think that cycle sucks. You've got a lot to learn.

LOL!!

OuttLaw ... You are the man!!