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rowdyreg

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I am looking for some advice on using AS for the first time. First a little about myself. 6'3", 190lbs, 10% bf. Been lifting about 3 months 3 days a week. Watching my diet and taking creatine. Have put on 12 lbs since starting. A lifting buddy of mine (he's been lifting for 4 years) takes as and is offering me a small cycle to see if I want to go that route. Since I am not paying anything for this I thought why not. Here's what he proposess. 5 weeks of Deca300 alone 1cc shot per week. 1st, will I get anything out of this? what are the side effects that I can expect, if any?

Thanks. New here so all comments welcome.
 
i would hold off on the AS usage for now considering you have only been working out for 3 months..plus u gained 12lbs in that little bit of time. just think what you could achieve in a year or so with proper diet and training. although, if u do plan on using , i wouldn't use deca alone, but thats just me, also do some searching on the site on different forums for great quality info.
 
How old are you? That will have alot to do with it. I really think three months is not enough time in the gym ...try 3 yrs. I know how excititng it can be to want to start a cycle, esp. the first one, but you should really just wait and hang out around here and learn all that you can. Best of luck with what ever route you take.
 
badslinky said:
How old are you? That will have alot to do with it. I really think three months is not enough time in the gym ...try 3 yrs. I know how excititng it can be to want to start a cycle, esp. the first one, but you should really just wait and hang out around here and learn all that you can. Best of luck with what ever route you take.

I'll turn 35 in Jan. Thanks.
 
rowdyreg said:
I am looking for some advice on using AS for the first time. First a little about myself. 6'3", 190lbs, 10% bf. Been lifting about 3 months 3 days a week. Watching my diet and taking creatine. Have put on 12 lbs since starting. A lifting buddy of mine (he's been lifting for 4 years) takes as and is offering me a small cycle to see if I want to go that route. Since I am not paying anything for this I thought why not. Here's what he proposess. 5 weeks of Deca300 alone 1cc shot per week. 1st, will I get anything out of this? what are the side effects that I can expect, if any?

Thanks. New here so all comments welcome.


If your buddy is a user he should know everything to tell you. He should know all the answers to your questions. If he can't tell you what to expect as far as gains and side effects, etc. Maybe neither one of you should be using. IF you do decide to go that route. You should try some test first. THEN check into other things. But as mentioned before if you gained that much that quick. You should not need AS for a long time.
 
I'm an older guy my self....lifted 3 yrs b-4 I did any aas made gains along the way...
Read, Read Read, b-4 venturing into AAs usage.....many new concepts worth looking into. I really like the short cycle approach...as outlined in "Building the perfict Beast"
that's quite the read....I would start out with "Chemical muscle inhansment I"
Good Luck
 
you should train 4-5 times a week. also, go hard for 6=8 months naturaly, you;ll be amazed at how much you can gain with hard training. eat 6 times a day and you should do great. when you do want to start somethng, use test at 500mg a week, and maybe 30mg of dbol for the first 3-4 weeks. dont do deca alone, especialy if banging chicks is somewhat important to you
 
alltraps said:
you should train 4-5 times a week. also, go hard for 6=8 months naturaly, you;ll be amazed at how much you can gain with hard training. eat 6 times a day and you should do great. when you do want to start somethng, use test at 500mg a week, and maybe 30mg of dbol for the first 3-4 weeks. dont do deca alone, especialy if banging chicks is somewhat important to you

Thanks for the advice. I was told about "deca-dick" but was also told that it was just bs.
 
rowdyreg said:
I am looking for some advice on using AS for the first time. First a little about myself. 6'3", 190lbs, 10% bf. Been lifting about 3 months 3 days a week. Watching my diet and taking creatine. Have put on 12 lbs since starting. A lifting buddy of mine (he's been lifting for 4 years) takes as and is offering me a small cycle to see if I want to go that route. Since I am not paying anything for this I thought why not. Here's what he proposess. 5 weeks of Deca300 alone 1cc shot per week. 1st, will I get anything out of this? what are the side effects that I can expect, if any?

Thanks. New here so all comments welcome.
to me if your asking us then you don't completely trust your boy. Also you haven't given your own genetic potential a shot. you gained 12lbs in 3 months so stay natural as long as you can. Also i would not reccomend deca to a first tim user.
 
deca d is for real and lasts long. with that much gain in 3 months i would stay away from all aas except for a little dbol. u sound tall and skinny and just wanna add weight so first and foremost DIET DIET DIET!!!!!! what's that like?
 
karachi183 said:
deca d is for real and lasts long. with that much gain in 3 months i would stay away from all aas except for a little dbol. u sound tall and skinny and just wanna add weight so first and foremost DIET DIET DIET!!!!!! what's that like?


I am sure I do not take in near enough calories. I am on a high protein, moderate card, low fat diet. I eat 3 meals a day and also drink 2 protein shakes/day along with creatine and a multivitamin. What's your advice on my caloric intake?
 
buddy you have been lifting for just 3 months...wait another 3 years and then use AS.....u can grow sooo much naturally since u just started
 
Defenetly weit longer, once you go anabolic you never go back. If you run some test with deca that would fix the deca dick.
 
Thanks to all. I think I will hold off on the as for at least a year per what most of you are telling me. What are some good addtional supplements besides the creatine and protein that I take now? Anything that helps boost my natural test levels?
 
if it's pure mass you wanna gain and don't care about a little fat then just eat eat eat.. 6 times a day

1.bfast (egg whites etc...)
2.protien shake or bar
3.lunch
4.protein shake or bar
5.dinner
6.snack or protein shake or bar

make it fun first off(eating that is change it up) or you'll never gain.
Hold off the aas and play around with ur diet first see what foods u respond too. eat clean during the week and carb load on the weekends.. something as easy as this has worked for me and alot of friends.
 
karachi183 said:
if it's pure mass you wanna gain and don't care about a little fat then just eat eat eat.. 6 times a day

1.bfast (egg whites etc...)
2.protien shake or bar
3.lunch
4.protein shake or bar
5.dinner
6.snack or protein shake or bar

make it fun first off(eating that is change it up) or you'll never gain.
Hold off the aas and play around with ur diet first see what foods u respond too. eat clean during the week and carb load on the weekends.. something as easy as this has worked for me and alot of friends.

Thanks for the advice!
 
My diet pretty much. The tuna is sometimes chicken, the ham sometimes tuna etc, but this is what it looks like the most.


7.30 AM :Serials w/ milk + shaker
9.30 AM :Bread with ham & milk
11.30 AM :Bread with Ham/tuna/chicken and milk
1.30 PM: (depending on when I get home from school) Protein Shaker, Bread with ham,chicken,milk etc , sometimes 250-300 g meat.
3.30 pm: either the above(depending on when i get home) or just some yougourt (if it's called that in english) with some banana etc, kinda light meal.
around 6pm : dinner, pretty much whatever is being made to me, but usually lots of meat, and either pasta,potatos or rice +milk
8-9.30 pm or so training: After that protein shaker
When I get home (maybe 30hours to 1hour later) milk + Tuna
30mins to 1 hour later, sleep for 7-8hours :)


Haven't counted how much protein , calories etc I get per day. But I know I get plenty of protein, calories is ok too I think. Well that's just mine, sure other ppl have alot different. Also sometimes in between those meals, I eat a banana or something .
 
Your buddy sounds like he should do a little more research himself before advising anyone. 300mg of Deca for 5 weeks will produce little if any gains. People have mentioned you should give natural a little more time, and I agree. But if it is something you want to do, then try some Sustanon at about 500mg a week for 8 to 10 weeks. If you continue your current training and diet you'll gain some really good size. The worst thing you can do though is to neglect PCT. Especially since your first cycle will generally produce the best gains.
 
i am reading a lot of newbie posat about first cycles being deca.
dont these guys hear of test.... i mean i am no expert, but i actually read and am doing my research and will have been training for 9 years before my first cycle and il be 22 and ill be around 230- 235 when i start.. people want a quick fix... althought im look for some extra size, i am doing it also because i will be competing.... sorry if i sounded like your mom, lol
 
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