Newbie here needs guidance

[GladX4]

Hello everyone,

I am a mother of two, 24 years old, 5'2, 116 lbs, 16% BF

My goals are to be more toned but also trim my inner thighs and sides. I have been working out w/ free weights for about a month now. I have been doing a push/pull/leg routine 3x week. I do 3-4 sets per exercise 8-12 reps. I also on my work out days do 20-30 min of incline power walking on treadmill.

As far as my diet goes, I eat whatever I want for ex. Chk Fettucini Alfredo, Hamburger Helper, Chk Quesadilla etc. But I don't that much. So that's why I don't really gain weight.

I'm going to start eating a good breakfast w/ eggs, add in protein shakes throughout the day, eat more veggies, and no carbs after 6p.m. Right now I am also taking Green Tea Extract and a Multi Vitamin.



My questions are:

1) What supplement can I take to help burn fat and boost energy for work out.

2) I'm not wanting to 100% change my diet overnight. But what are some things I can change or add to my diet to help me get toned, burn fat, and look better.

3) Is my push/pull/leg routine 3x week enough?


Thank you for looking at my post and I look forward to responses!!!!

 

[the.gladiator1987]

sry babe, this forum is pretty dead i guess...lets just go to bodybuilding.com at least they respond there lol

 

[nangiggles]

Hello everyone,

I am a mother of two, 24 years old, 5'2, 116 lbs, 16% BF

My goals are to be more toned but also trim my inner thighs and sides. I have been working out w/ free weights for about a month now. I have been doing a push/pull/leg routine 3x week. I do 3-4 sets per exercise 8-12 reps. I also on my work out days do 20-30 min of incline power walking on treadmill.

As far as my diet goes, I eat whatever I want for ex. Chk Fettucini Alfredo, Hamburger Helper, Chk Quesadilla etc. But I don't that much. So that's why I don't really gain weight.

I'm going to start eating a good breakfast w/ eggs, add in protein shakes throughout the day, eat more veggies, and no carbs after 6p.m. Right now I am also taking Green Tea Extract and a Multi Vitamin.



My questions are:

1) What supplement can I take to help burn fat and boost energy for work out.

2) I'm not wanting to 100% change my diet overnight. But what are some things I can change or add to my diet to help me get toned, burn fat, and look better.

3) Is my push/pull/leg routine 3x week enough?


Thank you for looking at my post and I look forward to responses!!!!

Supplements I once got a complimentary bottle of VenEvol, it was awesome, steady clean energy and just one capsule a day. Also tried Dren which was way more effective but A. Thermogenesis was serious stuff, i felt like I had hot flashes lol and B. The energy was great buy I felt too wired and jittery.

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[CML0915]

There's really no point in taking any supps if your diet isnt 100%. Any supp just aides an already flawless diet.

Keep at it. For beginners a full body 3-4 times a week is more beneficial. You can hit each body part more frequently due to not being able to go too heavy on lifts. If you want to gain muscle you need to eat a little above maintenance calories. If your goal is fat loss while preserving muscle you eat below maintenance and lift HEAVY, keep protein high, split up the rest between carbs and fat.
Good luck!

 

[Jack steel]

There's really no point in taking any supps if your diet isnt 100%. Any supp just aides an already flawless diet.

Keep at it. For beginners a full body 3-4 times a week is more beneficial. You can hit each body part more frequently due to not being able to go too heavy on lifts. If you want to gain muscle you need to eat a little above maintenance calories. If your goal is fat loss while preserving muscle you eat below maintenance and lift HEAVY, keep protein high, split up the rest between carbs and fat.
Good luck!

I have to disagree. Diet is first priority of course, but an "edge" is an edge. Some supplements can and do. Even help with nutrient partitioning, so some things can in theory make up for some of what your diet may be lacking (or not have enough of)

 

[CML0915]

A newb doesn't need supps. Period. They need to learn how to eat and train properly first

 

[the.gladiator1987]

I think supps could help because she already eats like crap and looks good.

It remindfs me of when I wanna bulk, i eat whatever I want cus I dont really gain fat. Only cus im young, but still why not take advantage of that?

 

[Jack steel]

A newb doesn't need supps. Period. They need to learn how to eat and train properly first

You act like that can't be done simultaneously. Supplements are good for you, it's not like its gear bro. Learn to eat right, how to workout correctly, and supplement naturally the right way. Saying supplements are pointless until your diet is perfect is incorrect. I see no logical reason for this. So what you're saying is she shouldn't even take a pre-workout drink because her diet isn't perfectly on point?

 

[CML0915]

You act like that can't be done simultaneously. Supplements are good for you, it's not like its gear bro. Learn to eat right, how to workout correctly, and supplement naturally the right way. Saying supplements are pointless until your diet is perfect is incorrect. I see no logical reason for this. So what you're saying is she shouldn't even take a pre-workout drink because her diet isn't perfectly on point?

First of all, I'm a woman, not your "bro".
And second, she has no idea how to eat properly and is a newb to working out. All of that can be overwhelming and takes time to figure everything out. A little pre workout for some added energy, ya maybe she could try it. But does she need it? Absolutely not. You don't NEED any supp, (especially as a newb) except maybe a good fish oil and protein if requirements can't be made with food.

 

[Idobehigh]

Lose the attitude, fish oil and protein is considered a supp so in a way you are wrong and no need to get so defensive. No one is telling here to get on anavar... Protein should be taking even if you are not working out as fish oil and a multivitamin all will help her loose weight and help her reach her goals

 

[caligirl85]

Gentlemen..this is the women's forum and we need to treat what few female members we have here with respect or I will send Psizzle after you!

If Glad and his wife can afford supplements, more power to them. My first competition, I had NO extra money and used NO supplements...nothing...not even protein powder. I drank coffee! And still placed top 5 in a non natty show. Are they necessary? Nope. Can they help? Sure. But..if you're eating chicken alfredo and hamburger helper, why waste your money? I agree with Glad..she already looks great with that diet! Imagine what she can accomplish with just cleaning it up?

 

[CML0915]

Lose the attitude, fish oil and protein is considered a supp so in a way you are wrong and no need to get so defensive. No one is telling here to get on anavar... Protein should be taking even if you are not working out as fish oil and a multivitamin all will help her loose weight and help her reach her goals

I can't help myself. Please explain to me how fish oil and a multi help you lose weight?

 

[Idobehigh]

Lose the attitude, fish oil and protein is considered a supp so in a way you are wrong and no need to get so defensive. No one is telling here to get on anavar... Protein should be taking even if you are not working out as fish oil and a multivitamin all will help her loose weight and help her reach her goals

Re read it my lady I said ALL not just a multi and fish oil if she is cutting then its easy to say she won't be getting her daily vitamins, if you are deficient in a vitamin that can bring up other issues and you won't be worrying about loosing weight....

 

[noodles1010]

it starts with cleaning up your diet a little... you have to at least TRY.
supplement wise, lets start with a multi vitamin, fish oil, and start researching your fat burners, thermogenics ect.
if you dont like the jittery feeling, steer away from caffeine... if u dont mind being a little cracked out, then there are ENDLESS options because then you dont have to look at the caffeine in the supp. it becomes irrelevant.
meal replacment shakes can help curb the hunger, for me its a chocolate shake and does nothing, but for some it def helps.
i think this here is a good starting ground and then once u decide on a burner, u can build from there.
cardio, cardio, cardio and AT LEAST 200 sit ups a day! do the bosu ball crunches, planks, decline sit ups, anything that works your abs and core. mix them up and experiment... dont let your body get too used to any one thing

 

[the.gladiator1987]

it starts with cleaning up your diet a little... you have to at least TRY.
supplement wise, lets start with a multi vitamin, fish oil, and start researching your fat burners, thermogenics ect.
if you dont like the jittery feeling, steer away from caffeine... if u dont mind being a little cracked out, then there are ENDLESS options because then you dont have to look at the caffeine in the supp. it becomes irrelevant.
meal replacment shakes can help curb the hunger, for me its a chocolate shake and does nothing, but for some it def helps.
i think this here is a good starting ground and then once u decide on a burner, u can build from there.
cardio, cardio, cardio and AT LEAST 200 sit ups a day! do the bosu ball crunches, planks, decline sit ups, anything that works your abs and core. mix them up and experiment... dont let your body get too used to any one thing

I agree guys, I know im posting for her, she just got a second job so shes pretty busy but today she made a protein shake and took it with her to work so im pretty proud of her for that, she is so picky when it comes to food so changing the diet is a big step.

What I bought for her was multi, fish oil, caffeine, whey and casein, and green tea extract. Then she is also starting to drink protein shakes since I have her lifting heavy free weights 3x a week doing push pull leg routine.

But i gotta agree with the others, I know she doesnt NEED the supps, but if it helps her get motivated and seeing results then why not? If she isnt gaining fat with her diet then it must not be too bad, so if she adds in some supps I feel like they are only going to help her.

Idk about cardio though, even if she is trying to bulk up a little but also lose fat? How about HIIT?

 

[Idobehigh]

Hiit programs are good to incorporate for a week every month or as you see fit, if a client is gaining to much fat then we switch to hiit for a week and use this chance as a small "Deload" but regardless of fat/muscle the more cardio she can do the longer she will be able to train for

 

[caligirl85]

Glad, if you can afford supps and want to use them great! Ultimately, IMO, it comes down to calories in/ calories out. You cant out train a bad diet, type of thing. Protein shakes will help increase her protein intake and hopefully it'll be a start in changing her diet. If she's 16% bf, it just gets more difficult to go lower as a female and she's gonna have to do more than shakes diet wise.

 

[shirlene29]

It's a careful balance of three things... and before I get jumped read the WHOLE thing

the three things are;

diet
training
supplementation



if one is lacking (we'll use supps) then training and diet should be perfect..you can cheat a little with supplementing
we'll say, training and supps are perfect (and I'm talking legal and illegal here) then diet can be less than perfect
if training is a little rough then you need to focus on diet (perfect) and supps (probably over the top amount which isn't ultimately healthy)


I am NOT saying you SHOULD have diet and training askew but if you do you're going to need the crutch of supps until you get it under control

I don't think anyone here thinks you should be reaching for a substance first and diet and train second...myself included

but as a for instance...I looked over someones diet and training for them recently and asked them to give me a supplements list as well...I got the supps and training first and was perplexed why there were no fish oils in it (standard stuff you know?) till the person got me their diet a few hours later and I noticed they ate oily fish approx 5 times a week..ultimately that persons training was not the intensity she thought it was and some Q&A revealed she was making a couple of minor food errors that were costing her upwards of 500 cals a day (its shockingly easy to do). The moral of the story is ..look at the WHOLE picture first before making an assumption.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Hiit programs are good to incorporate for a week every month or as you see fit, if a client is gaining to much fat then we switch to hiit for a week and use this chance as a small "Deload" but regardless of fat/muscle the more cardio she can do the longer she will be able to train for

thats true, i just figured that HIIT was the only cardio that didnt really burn muscle, cus were trying to build muscle for her right now, she barely has any fat to lose

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Glad, if you can afford supps and want to use them great! Ultimately, IMO, it comes down to calories in/ calories out. You cant out train a bad diet, type of thing. Protein shakes will help increase her protein intake and hopefully it'll be a start in changing her diet. If she's 16% bf, it just gets more difficult to go lower as a female and she's gonna have to do more than shakes diet wise.

When you say bad diet what do u mean? Because for instance say she eats lucky charms, has a protein shake, has a quesadilla at work, has another protein shake, has some chicken alfredo, and then some milk befor bed, but its only 1500 calories at the end of the day?

I guess while shes new to it I know she will make newbie gains as far as muscle and strength, but i know it wont last forever until she has to start switching up her diet. BUt im happy with the fact that shes just all into free weights from the get go, most girls wouldnt touch them. Thx for the response tho , I dont think shes coming back to this site because of wht happened in chat lol i warned her

 

[the.gladiator1987]

It's a careful balance of three things... and before I get jumped read the WHOLE thing

the three things are;

diet
training
supplementation



if one is lacking (we'll use supps) then training and diet should be perfect..you can cheat a little with supplementing
we'll say, training and supps are perfect (and I'm talking legal and illegal here) then diet can be less than perfect
if training is a little rough then you need to focus on diet (perfect) and supps (probably over the top amount which isn't ultimately healthy)


I am NOT saying you SHOULD have diet and training askew but if you do you're going to need the crutch of supps until you get it under control

I don't think anyone here thinks you should be reaching for a substance first and diet and train second...myself included

but as a for instance...I looked over someones diet and training for them recently and asked them to give me a supplements list as well...I got the supps and training first and was perplexed why there were no fish oils in it (standard stuff you know?) till the person got me their diet a few hours later and I noticed they ate oily fish approx 5 times a week..ultimately that persons training was not the intensity she thought it was and some Q&A revealed she was making a couple of minor food errors that were costing her upwards of 500 cals a day (its shockingly easy to do). The moral of the story is ..look at the WHOLE picture first before making an assumption.

Great post thanks. She is the kind of girl that when we go eat out she gets the same thing, never tries anything new. SHe never had a blackberry when I met her 3 years ago and shes 25 now. In the protein shake I mde for her she said she didnt like the banana pieces that werent completely blended because of the "texture". I think its how she was raised, but it not that shes picky, its just that she hasnt tried anything new ever. So to change her diet from what it is to completely perfect is just gonna push her away from it i think. But I know eventually we need to get it better.

BUt I like what you said, as long as her supps and training is spot on then for now we can cheat with the diet for now.

Would a juicer be good for her, being able to blend a bunch of healthy stuff into a shake and getting good stuff down that way? I think she needs ideas on how to eat good stuff, like sweet potatoes and broccoli, pretty gross to her plain, but if we could mix it with something she might like it. We just gott try new things for diet

 

[shirlene29]

its funny while I was reading your post before I got to the bottom I was just thinking a food processor if shed like some texture or a juicer
in the meantime you could always put it through a strainer

change one thing at a time sloooowly with diet...with easy goals like "I will drink more water for one week"

if its done slow rather than going all out and going for a radical change all at once it becomes overwhelming and too much to keep track of. Slow baby steps leads to new habits which is real change

 

[nangiggles]

She's not competing for figure, she doesnt have to eat chicken and veggies all freaking day, I understand that chicken alfredo and hamburger helper arent exactly diet items but if she's not eating it daily there shouldn't be a problem, one of the biggest annoyments I have on the women's section is that everyone comes in and expects you to just eat perfect, I remember as a newb getting shit for snacking on carrots, cherries and fruit because of the fructuose and I was like WTF is this BS I wanna lose weight but screw this, most people wanting to drop weight to be healthy actually need certain "bad" foods as a step down from their already shitty foods, tell someone who eats the wrong things off the bat to eat like you guys do and you'r setting them up for failure, it's a gradual learning process.

Do you eat fatty, creamy buttery pasta in olive garden? try making pasta at home with multigrain pasta, lean protein and a natural tomato sauce, it's a gradual step down that is achievable for someone starting to learn, dont just tell them, yeah have boneless skinless chicken breast with a portion of vegetables or sweet potato.
Do you have some breakfast burrito/pre-made crap for breakfast? Try having two boiled eggs and some oatmeal.
Do you eat carb or sugar full snacks? Try some almonds instead.

See? Gradual... Ridiculous. Specially as Glad says she has 2 jobs and two kids, not everyone one has the time, money or energy to be able to eat like those of you who are ahead of the game.

/rant

 

[mountainsidefitness]

I can help you and be happy too. Please list in order of importance.., your concerns, questions, issues, trouble/stubborn areas and MOST importantly your goals, followed by your ULTIMATE goal! btw, is ur avatar you and current? also, height, weight and body fat%; if you do not know, no worries, just helps me draw a tighter starting line. Thanks

 

[GladX4]

First of all, thank everyone for responding to my thread. I was really discourage for a bit. I really appreciate everyones advice and input!! Now, as Glad said, I am currently taking a multivitamin, fish oil, green tea extract, B17, and Hydroxycut Hardcore Elite. I am working out 3x week. Push/Pull/Legs. I have 2 jobs. 1 as a server/bartender and my 2nd job is at Kay Jewelers. So a supplement that makes me jittery and amped up is perfect for my restaurant job! So that puts me working literally 6-7 days a week. As well as doing my motherly/wifely duties at home (I'm a busy momma)

In order of importance, I would say my concerns are basically having enough energy to accomplish my daily and weekly duties. As far as work, gym and home life.
My questions would be if you guys think that this Hydroxycut supp is a good source of energy and fat loss?
Also, should I just worry about weights right now and getting stronger? Along w/ my supplements and tweaking my diet, if I'm trying to lose fat around stubborn areas like arms and upper thighs? Which should I focus on first?

My goals are to be toned, get stronger, and build muscle.

Yes, my avatar is current. It was taking May 20th 2013. I am 5'2, 116 lbs, and BF is 16%

Thanks again everyone for responding! I will check thread again when I get off work in a little while!

 

[the.gladiator1987]

its funny while I was reading your post before I got to the bottom I was just thinking a food processor if shed like some texture or a juicer
in the meantime you could always put it through a strainer

change one thing at a time sloooowly with diet...with easy goals like "I will drink more water for one week"

if its done slow rather than going all out and going for a radical change all at once it becomes overwhelming and too much to keep track of. Slow baby steps leads to new habits which is real change

yes i agree! slow changes are the way to change your habits. are there any good smoothies/shakes with broccoli in it that still taste good?

i think were gonna start making a weekly checklist of things she should start doing, that would be cool.

 

[wootoom]

Guys aren't to be posting in here...if they are going to be rude or inappropriate to the female members.

 

[shirlene29]

thats actually just the girl talk section woot...guys post in the fitness section from time to time

 

[wootoom]

I'm always seeing purg infractions from the girl mods on this forums...hmm I got the two mixed up! Sorry Glad!

 

[ceo]

Guys aren't to be posting in here...if they are going to be rude or inappropriate to the female members.

It's OK bro. I FYP.

 

[stevesmi]

i would eliminate some of these foods you are eating which will go a long way. yes you are young and when i was young i ate crappy but once i got a little older it caught up to me.

lucky charms for example.. has no nutrition and does nothing to make you healthy. why not swap in some oatmeal instead or better yet some cage free eggs for breakfast.

lunch you have a quesa at work. why not swap in a baked chicken salad instead? these are little things you can do that will go a long way. . drink a lot of water. stay away from alcohol and you will be very pleased with your progress. try to avoid restaurant food, its a killer.

if you are gonna have really 3 jobs like that you are gonna be much happier and have more energy eating healthier at the very least. so it will pay off. you won't feel so blah after meals and heavy

 

[GladX4]

Supplements I once got a complimentary bottle of VenEvol, it was awesome, steady clean energy and just one capsule a day. Also tried Dren which was way more effective but A. Thermogenesis was serious stuff, i felt like I had hot flashes lol and B. The energy was great buy I felt too wired and jittery.

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I like the idea of supplements. We started taking ours yesterday. I went to work (at the restaurant) and felt pretty energized. Then took a caffine pill and a protein shake before we went to the gym.

At the gym, my 1st work out was deadlifts. After doing 3sets of 75lb 8x, I felt so sick! IDK if was because I lifted heavy or if It was the caffine and protein shake? After taking a breather outside for a few, I felt better. But it was a really weird feeling.

IDK if you saw read the supps I'm taking but they are: A Multivitamin, Green Tea Exctract, Hydroxycut Elite, Fish Oil, and Cafifine.

 

[GladX4]

Lose the attitude, fish oil and protein is considered a supp so in a way you are wrong and no need to get so defensive. No one is telling here to get on anavar... Protein should be taking even if you are not working out as fish oil and a multivitamin all will help her loose weight and help her reach her goals

Thank you!

This helps me know that I am on the right track with what I am taking now.

 

[Idobehigh]

Hydroxycut and a caffeine pull will probably increase your heart rate and bp along with dead lifts your heart was probably racing, my advice would be, drop the caffeine pill to only when you need it, and up your water to a gallon or close. All this will help you out not to mention if you haven't done dead lifts in a long time it could of just been a head rush because your body wasn't expecting it. Either way your on the right track and 75# for a dead lift is awesome for a female

 

[the.gladiator1987]

just to clarify the hydroxycut pill was taken at 10am, caffeine pill was taken at about 4, so it was pretty spread apart. Plus she had the protein shake literally on the way to the gym, and our first exercise was deadlifts, so i think it was a combination of all those. The hydroxycut dose when we reach day 7 is about 3 caffeine pills worth lol

i agree water needs to be close to about a gallon a day, probably 1.5 gllons for me since im a guy. do you guys carry water bottles with you and refill them throughout the day or do you find it easier to carry a gallon jug with you and finish it by the end of the day?

steve idk if she read your post since it was on a new page but she will see it today after work i bet. I will say today she had some special K protein cereal which is a good start

 

[Idobehigh]

Personally I carry a gallon with me but I have friends that carry a bpa free refillable water jug and refill it thew out the day, if it was her first experience with deads then like u said it was the deads lol Special K is a good start and another step would be is replace the milk with almond milk

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Personally I carry a gallon with me but I have friends that carry a bpa free refillable water jug and refill it thew out the day, if it was her first experience with deads then like u said it was the deads lol Special K is a good start and another step would be is replace the milk with almond milk

so is that bpa refillable water jug able to let you put tap water in it and have it be like bottled water? or is it just that the plastic in your bottle isnt going to contaminate the water? and ill tell her about almond milk, idk if she has ever tried it so she might like that.

yea it was definitely the deads lol, honestly 75lbs was pretty heavy for her, we took a video of it and the only thing wrong with her form imo was when she let the bar down she would keep bending her knees, but then the bar would have to go in front of her shoulders. So I told her to start bending at the hips that way the bar stays in a straight path and her arms stay straight up and down. But besides that she was killin it and it was crazy how much of a difference it was going from 65lbs to 75 lbs.

ok im gonna let her reply to all these ill butt out lol

 

[Idobehigh]

The bpa free means it won't contaminate the water after a few uses as if you keep refilling a water bottle it will start to get that weird taste, blender bottles are bpa for that reason your suppose to re use them, any store will carry bpa free bottles Walmart or publix for sure. You can buy some bpa free water bottles with a filter in them and you could pour tap water into them and it will filter it for you. The almond milk IMO is really good get unsweetened and it tastes like milk and the vanilla almond milk is just really good in general lol

 

[GladX4]

i would eliminate some of these foods you are eating which will go a long way. yes you are young and when i was young i ate crappy but once i got a little older it caught up to me.

lucky charms for example.. has no nutrition and does nothing to make you healthy. why not swap in some oatmeal instead or better yet some cage free eggs for breakfast.

lunch you have a quesa at work. why not swap in a baked chicken salad instead? these are little things you can do that will go a long way. . drink a lot of water. stay away from alcohol and you will be very pleased with your progress. try to avoid restaurant food, its a killer.

if you are gonna have really 3 jobs like that you are gonna be much happier and have more energy eating healthier at the very least. so it will pay off. you won't feel so blah after meals and heavy

I don't eat lucky charms everyday for breakfast. Maybe 1 time a week. lol 90% of the week I make scrambled eggs, wheat toast, sausage and maybe some bacon.

I will start eating better at the restaurant for sure. I heard the dressing w/ salads are kind of bad. So is ranch dressing w/ a salad not ok? I will really focus on the water. I hate the water at my work :/ So I need to bring water bottles from home then. We don't drink alcohol but MAYBE 1x a month. Gosh if that. lol No time.

I'm definitely motivated to eat better! I just have to be open minded to new things.

I do find myself while at work, not eating at all until I get home. So I will eat eggs, toast, and sausage at 11ish. and then not eat until I get home around 5. I just get so busy at work, I don't think to order food or heat up anything if I was to bring food from home. I know I should work on that too!

 

[GladX4]

Hydroxycut and a caffeine pull will probably increase your heart rate and bp along with dead lifts your heart was probably racing, my advice would be, drop the caffeine pill to only when you need it, and up your water to a gallon or close. All this will help you out not to mention if you haven't done dead lifts in a long time it could of just been a head rush because your body wasn't expecting it. Either way your on the right track and 75# for a dead lift is awesome for a female

As Glad said, I took the 2 supps at different parts of the day. I definitely need to drink more water! I'll admit that. Ya, after even my 2nd out of 4 sets, I was light headed and felt nauseas. We had to go outside a couple times. Thought about quitting for the day, but the deads were my first exercise so I wasnt about to puss out on my whole workout

Thank you! I started at 65lbs 1st set then did 75lbs the last 3 sets. Then I did curls, lat pulls, and rows. I pushed through the yucky feeling and completed my workout. Glad was extremely motivating and helpful through my whole workout. Which helped w/ me wanting to complete my day!

 

[nangiggles]

I like the idea of supplements. We started taking ours yesterday. I went to work (at the restaurant) and felt pretty energized. Then took a caffine pill and a protein shake before we went to the gym.

At the gym, my 1st work out was deadlifts. After doing 3sets of 75lb 8x, I felt so sick! IDK if was because I lifted heavy or if It was the caffine and protein shake? After taking a breather outside for a few, I felt better. But it was a really weird feeling.

IDK if you saw read the supps I'm taking but they are: A Multivitamin, Green Tea Exctract, Hydroxycut Elite, Fish Oil, and Cafifine.

Not a hydroxycut fan, their old formula actually contributed to some liver failure cases and deaths, granted it's not the same formula anymore but still, as someone already pointed out it's a shitty caffeine supplement, personally it made me jittery in a cracked out feeling kinda way with horrible crashes as well, the effect when any didn't last much.

With stimulants you have to remember that they will make you feel like you have more energy than you actually do, specially if you have skipped meals, so if you're lifting 20lbs on something and with the stim you do 25-30 because you feel energized and stronger you can get that dizzy, sick feeling you had, don't over do it missy

I don't eat lucky charms everyday for breakfast. Maybe 1 time a week. lol 90% of the week I make scrambled eggs, wheat toast, sausage and maybe some bacon.

I will start eating better at the restaurant for sure. I heard the dressing w/ salads are kind of bad. So is ranch dressing w/ a salad not ok? I will really focus on the water. I hate the water at my work :/ So I need to bring water bottles from home then. We don't drink alcohol but MAYBE 1x a month. Gosh if that. lol No time.

I'm definitely motivated to eat better! I just have to be open minded to new things.

I do find myself while at work, not eating at all until I get home. So I will eat eggs, toast, and sausage at 11ish. and then not eat until I get home around 5. I just get so busy at work, I don't think to order food or heat up anything if I was to bring food from home. I know I should work on that too!

Most restaurants have "fit" options in their menu but be careful since calories arent all, some of that stuff is carb loaded, sugary and fatty despite lower calories.

As per salads ideally you should have it with olive oil, lemon or vinegar instead of salad dressings, personally I dislike that since I dont like acid things, I usually use mustard or low cal fat free salad dressing BUUUT those sometimes have high sugar contents or even worse high fructuose corn syrup so next time you go shopping take some extra time and review all the bottles and find the best fit for you.

Also remember that if you dont eat while at work your body will hold on to dear life to what you do eat in order to store it, when you dont eat you're also more likely to binge or break diet when you finally get your hands on food, I have your exact same problem, I work strange hours, some days I'm buried in paperwork some days I'm out driving all day without access to fridge or microwave, go ahead and pack a lunch in one of those thermal bags OR take a meal replacement shake, they are not ideal due to the sugar and calories but I noticed that the month I took some of those shitty equate meal replacement shakes I actually dropped about 7 pounds more than skipping my meals, I really didn't have much sugar at all on days I had them so it evened out well.

 

[nangiggles]

One last thing, hubby and I have adopted the chicken and brocoli routine, we buy a zillion skinless boneless chicken breasts and freeze them in meal portions for two, at night we'll thaw a bag for next day, when we get up we condiment, put them in a small toaster type oven for 30 min while we shower and get ready so when we're done so is lunch, some days we chop it some we make fajitas, etc, we'll buy different herbs and spices and some low cal fat free sauces or dressings that don't have an insane amount of sugar and sodium and we just drizzle it on for flavor, pair it up with veggies of your choice and you are good to go effortlessly.

 

[stevesmi]

steve idk if she read your post since it was on a new page but she will see it today after work i bet. I will say today she had some special K protein cereal which is a good start

special K cereal i do beleive has high fructose corn syrup. i think all the kelloggs cereals have that shit in it.

1. high fructose corn syrup
2. hydrogenated oils
3. soybean oil

those 3 things need to be avoided and you would be shocked at how many things you buy contain them. here is a good article on them. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/01/27/soybean-oil.aspx if these 3 ingredients were banned in the USA our obesity epidemic would collapse. they are killing our country

also PM you your story glad and i will hook you up with a natty protocol .. give you your full timeline/story

 

[stevesmi]

I don't eat lucky charms everyday for breakfast. Maybe 1 time a week. lol 90% of the week I make scrambled eggs, wheat toast, sausage and maybe some bacon.

I will start eating better at the restaurant for sure. I heard the dressing w/ salads are kind of bad. So is ranch dressing w/ a salad not ok? I will really focus on the water. I hate the water at my work :/ So I need to bring water bottles from home then. We don't drink alcohol but MAYBE 1x a month. Gosh if that. lol No time.

I'm definitely motivated to eat better! I just have to be open minded to new things.

I do find myself while at work, not eating at all until I get home. So I will eat eggs, toast, and sausage at 11ish. and then not eat until I get home around 5. I just get so busy at work, I don't think to order food or heat up anything if I was to bring food from home. I know I should work on that too!

yeah most dressings are bad because most contain soybean oil. people think soybean oil is healthy cause they see 'soy' in it.. its actually just a fancy word for hydrogenated oil .. things that are hydrogenated need to be avoided. you can find healthy dressings but not gonna happen at a restaurant. your best bet is some fresh olive oil (make sure its actual olive oil), and some lemon. or you can sprinkle on some light cheese for flavor.

try and reduce your bread and swap in whole grain instead of white. you can really stick with the same foods just be smarter about the specific choices.. if you insist on cereal find a better brand that is healthier and swap in almond or oat milk instead. (unsweetened)

 

[shirlene29]

baby steps steve! to start with just getting a salad in there and going with the actual recommended serving size of dressing is fine...BABY STEPS

small changes lead to habit changes! let her get used to the idea of loving some salads first

 

[GladX4]

baby steps steve! to start with just getting a salad in there and going with the actual recommended serving size of dressing is fine...BABY STEPS

small changes lead to habit changes! let her get used to the idea of loving some salads first

Thx guys! I'm at work right now and just had a grilled chk salad. I put just a tad of ranch dressing on it


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[shirlene29]

gladx, steve is right ultimately

but good work on goin with the salad ...a little dressing is fine

how is your water intake today and yesterday? Think of the water as a way to flush away fat (visualize it)

 

[GladX4]

gladx, steve is right ultimately

but good work on goin with the salad ...a little dressing is fine

how is your water intake today and yesterday? Think of the water as a way to flush away fat (visualize it)

Thank you today I worked at the jewelry store and had special K before work, a protein shake on my break, a salad w/ a little ranch and croutons for lunch and for dinner, we made a quick and easy dinner. Chili cheese dogs. I had 3 bottled waters today! Glad challenged me to drink 3. I know its probably not a lot to everyone else but I barely used to drink even 1 bottled water a day. Tomorrow I will probably do the same as for as breakfast and lunch. Except add chicken to my salad. And I'm challenging myself to drink 4 bottled waters. Oddly, I don't feel more jittery or energized while taking the hydroxycute elite. Today was day 5 and up to 2 capsules a.m. and 1 p.m.1xday. I think my receptors to stuff like that are not so sensitive? They affect Glad more than me. And he is 70lbs heavier. I worked 9-5:30 and felt so tired on my lunch at 2:00. Maybe start taking caffeine along w/ my other supps? Remember, I am trying to lose fat and gain muscle. So the caffeine wouldn't just be for energy.

Thank you everyone for continuously commenting on my thread!!

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[shirlene29]

do you normally drink a lot of coffee or soda?

 

[GladX4]

do you normally drink a lot of coffee or soda?

I never drink coffee. And I used to drink a gulp here and there while at work. I work 5 days/week at the restaurant so those days I would drink Pepsi. We don't buy soda for our house. I haven't drank Pepsi like I used to in a couple weeks.


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[shirlene29]

I was just wondering if you were tolerant to caffeine because of high caffeine consumption

 

[the.gladiator1987]

she used to have pepsi a lot at work.....but honestly her mom is the same way as far as sensitivity, i remember i gave her mom some ephedrine and she said she didnt feel it either lol that stuff basically gives me panic attacks

 

[GladX4]

I think I am starting to finally feel more energetic and amped up. Today, day 7, I feel 100% more than day 1. Hopefully it will stay like this!

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