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Newbie Deca Cycle

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I've never used gear before. I'm thinking about running a 200 mg/week deca cycle for 10-12 weeks. I have a bunch of questions.

I want to keep dosages low since i don't know how i'm going to respond yet, but if things go smoothly should I taper to 300mg/week, or even 400mg/week after 6-8 weeks, or is 200mg for the whole cycle probably good enough for a steroid novice to get decent gains?

Is it necessary to take test with deca? I can live with low sex drive and some mood issues if these are the main side effects to expect from a deca-only cycle, but I've seen a lot of people say that deca shouldn't be run without some test.

Since the deca dosage is low, is 500iu/week HCG split into twice a week enough if i start running it from week 1? Should i stop taking HCG at the end of the cycle or run it for another week or two?

Is 3 weeks after discontinuing deca about right to start taking clomid? I was planning on a 300mg opening day, and 50mg/day for about 4-5 weeks. Is that about right for deca PCT?

Answers to any of these are much appreciated.

edit: 5"11, 175, 12% bf, 25 years old.
I forgot to mention part of the reason i wanted to do a deca-only cycle is that my hair has been slowly receding even though i've been on finasteride for 3 years. Because of that I'd prefer to do no test or to keep it as low as possible, cause any hair i lose might not be coming back lol.
 
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some like deca only. some say do test only for your first cycle. test at 500 mgs/week is going to be a little cheaper than deca at 400.
 
sweed said:
$100 BILLION DOLLARS!
but i can give u a link to the syringes.... www.getpinz.com
some like deca only. some say do test only for your first cycle. test at 500 mgs/week is going to be a little cheaper than deca at 400.
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Sweed is right, test 500 for 10 weeks is the typical first cycle.
 
wayneboard1 said:
Sweed is right, test 500 for 10 weeks is the typical first cycle.
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The main reason I want to use deca is for the retainability of gains. From what I've read, test gains are harder to keep. Deca sounds more like my style, but i have no experience using either so I'm open to suggestion.
 
I'm on deca right now.. deca alone for 300 mg's a week and I'm in week 5.. I've put on about 8 lbs and my muscle definition is better as well... I've seen no side effects whatsoever, especially not a lowered sex drive... This is my first cycle as well and I didn't want to jump into test because I heard it makes you crazy... Let me know how it goes for you bro
 
i would take deca and test together for sure. You will gain like twice as much if u take both. I gained 32lbs off feca/test my first cycle
 
To the original poster...you want to learn how to crawl before you can run bro...dont rush things...so your first cycle should be test 250-500 mgs a week either 10-12 weeks, your choice..
 
most dont have problems during week 6-7 with deca dick. Then during pct... sometimes for month. I know 1st hand. Hope you dont have to make a thread about it like myself any many others have. I was on dostinex,maca,avenis sativa all to keep the libido going but it was still downhill. Oh yea clomid as welll.
 
500 test e for first cycle. BUT If you are aaaabsolutelyyy set on doing more ... then do 500 test e (two weeks longer han deca) along with your 400 deca - but make sure you have good pct (hcg, dostinex, nolv - clomid is you like...) - eat and grow - good luck
 
If you decide to run Deca alone, I don't think 200 mg/week is much worth the effort at all. I would up that to at least 300 mg/week if you have enough gear to run at least an 8 - 10 week cycle. Most posts that I have read seem to indicate that Deca sides are not noticeable until you go over 400 mg/week. At lower doses, you really needn't be too concerned about progesterone side effects, and possible gyno.

I will note that you seem to have done a little research and put some thought into your first cycle, and a good post. You should consider posting your stats also to help some bros out (age, weight, bodyfat, etc.) with recommendations. I am like you and the notable Deca sides (libido/deca dick) don't really bother me, but I get great results.

You will get a lot of opinions on running HCG throughout your cycle or just near the end. For more info on this and other PCT questions, if you haven't yet, go to the Post Steroid Cycle Therapy Forum on EF, under the main folder for Bodybuilding Forums .....http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=81...... Please read all the Stickys, you'll be amazed how much you will learn and smarter you will be about PCT.

I personally prefer Nolva over Clomid, has worked great with less worries, but read up a little more, and you'll probably get more feedback from experienced bros on here about their preferences. You have the right idea about starting Clomid (or Nolva) awhile after your last Deca inject, since it is a very long acting ester, but 3 weeks seems a bit long to wait, 1.5 to 2 weeks is probably better.

Again, if you are committed to running Deca, and maybe at a little higher dose, then you may want to consider possibly stacking with Winny to help minimize/control some of the progesterone side effects. This works great say at about 40 mg/ED for this purpose.

Another good link to learn a little more about steroid profiles, stacking and PCT options, try http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catsteroids.htm, this should help some more as well. Good luck to you bro, welcome to the brightside!
 
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