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danymal04

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I'm looking to gain some weight and get some strength, this winter and was wondering how this cycle looked. Please, any advice is helpful!!

3-4 weeks-T-BOL (turinabol) 10mg caps @ 30-40mg day

3 weeks - anadrol (anapolan) 50mg tab @ 50mg day

3 weeks- winstrol depot to help my speed

PCT - Clomid,Proviron, Nolvadex

Please give advice!! And Suggestions with Adjustments. Thanks!!


(Stats)
1 - 20years old
2 - Lifting History (since 9th grade)
3 - Height (5'10")
4 - Weight (190)
5 - Estimated BF% (Or at least, lean/think/fat etc)...(6% last winter)
6 - Diet (school food 3 times a day and protein shakes and bars)
7 - Goals (gain strength and get speed back)
8 - Proposed cycle (To show that you've at least done a little homework.)

Max Bench-285
Max Clean-285
Max Squat-415
 
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danymal04 said:
I'm looking to gain some weight this winter and was wondering how this cycle looked. Please, any advice is helpful!!

3-4 weeks-T-BOL (turinabol) 10mg caps @ 30-40mg day

3 weeks - anadrol (anapolan) 50mg tab @ 50mg day

3 weeks- winstrol depot to help my speed

PCT - Clomid,Proviron, Nolvadex

Please give advice!! And Suggestions with Adjustments. Thanks!!


(Stats)
5'10"
190lbs

Max Bench-285
Max Clean-285
Max Squat-415
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Your Tbol dose is too low....I would go 50-60mgs/day.....I would forget about the abombs......Too long on orals....and the winny for only 3 weeks forget that too. How many cycles have you done....Not a good bulker by any means. RESEARCH Bro is essential.
 
why not run some test? U will get strong, gain weight, and have much less sides. 10 wks of orals is a bit long for my liking.

1-10 500mg/wk test
1-4 40 mg t-bol
 
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axe3 said:
why not run some test? U will get strong, gain weight, and have much less sides. 10 wks of orals is a bit long for my liking.

1-10 500mg/wk test
1-4 40 mg t-bol
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Absolutely right! ;)
 
BOWTECH said:
Your Tbol dose is too low....I would go 50-60mgs/day.....I would forget about the abombs......Too long on orals....and the winny for only 3 weeks forget that too. How many cycles have you done....Not a good bulker by any means. RESEARCH Bro is essential.
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i got some advice....stop being a pussy and shoot urself with a god damn needle
 
danymal04 said:
I'm looking to gain some weight this winter and was wondering how this cycle looked. Please, any advice is helpful!!

3-4 weeks-T-BOL (turinabol) 10mg caps @ 30-40mg day

3 weeks - anadrol (anapolan) 50mg tab @ 50mg day

3 weeks- winstrol depot to help my speed

PCT - Clomid,Proviron, Nolvadex

Please give advice!! And Suggestions with Adjustments. Thanks!!


(Stats)
5'10"
190lbs

Max Bench-285
Max Clean-285
Max Squat-415
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What is your age?
 
axe3 said:
why not run some test? U will get strong, gain weight, and have much less sides. 10 wks of orals is a bit long for my liking.

1-10 500mg/wk test
1-4 40 mg t-bol
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this would be much better. use adex to keep you dry. if you are hell bent on only orals then run tbol only.
 
BOWTECH said:
Your Tbol dose is too low....I would go 50-60mgs/day.....I would forget about the abombs......Too long on orals....and the winny for only 3 weeks forget that too. How many cycles have you done....Not a good bulker by any means. RESEARCH Bro is essential.
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I've done research, I haven't done any cycles, thats why the title is newbie cycle. I just want to know what will get me back and fast again being a Defensive Back.
 
danymal04 said:
I've done research, I haven't done any cycles, thats why the title is newbie cycle. I just want to know what will get me back and fast again being a Defensive Back.
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I'll shoot myself with a needle. I just have been researching and was wondering about this cycle because of side effects and stuff.. but it seems liek a bad one, I was reading how good tbol is if you want to gain strength and I want to stay lean so I can keep my quickness
 
Beachbum1546 said:
Injections you pussy! All those orals will destroy your liver and give you jaundice.
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ditto!!!

keep the tbol and add 500mg to test and you're set,

and some more :ryanh:
 
I'm pretty new the world of AAS and I ran 200mg/wk of Cyp. I'd highly recommend that cycle. If you have some winny I suppose you could throw that in towards the end of a 10weeker but I think if you keep your diet clean you could see some serious gains off a relatively small cycle. You'll have the experience of knowing how you react to test and you're probably looking at getting the weight and strength gains you're looking for.

Most of the reading I've done for beginning cycles include using test as a base. I think a lot of guys that have the correct supplies for PCT would probably be ok running 500mg of Test a week but my friends and I have all had great luck just running 200mg/wk for 10 weeks.

I'd give it a shot. Pun intended. Most of the reading I've done has really led me away from orals.

Goodluck
 
rejection_juice said:
I'm pretty new the world of AAS and I ran 200mg/wk of Cyp. I'd highly recommend that cycle. If you have some winny I suppose you could throw that in towards the end of a 10weeker but I think if you keep your diet clean you could see some serious gains off a relatively small cycle. You'll have the experience of knowing how you react to test and you're probably looking at getting the weight and strength gains you're looking for.

Most of the reading I've done for beginning cycles include using test as a base. I think a lot of guys that have the correct supplies for PCT would probably be ok running 500mg of Test a week but my friends and I have all had great luck just running 200mg/wk for 10 weeks.

I'd give it a shot. Pun intended. Most of the reading I've done has really led me away from orals.

Goodluck
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Yeah me too, I just been reading about Tbol lately and I heard that stuff is the real deal. But I heard test makes your joints dry, and if I'm goin to be running a lot, I dont want my joints to be jacked up for winter training. Thanks for the help from everyone, I was originally just going to run the Tbol and Winny at the end because I want to add some strength and speed(4.45-40-right now). Does Test make more red blood cells giving you more endurance, because I read up about how Deca does? Thanks everyone
 
As far as a cycle I would have to say tbol/test or maybe just the tbol. Everyone can remember when bruce410 ran a tbol only cycle and he was rather impressed.

If you do not want to pull up your skirt, grab your balls and throw a dart in ya then just do tbol. If you are wondering about injections check out www.spotinjections.com. But unless you come to the wonderful world of injections, you'll never get what you're looking for outta AAS.

2 pennies worth of mine.
 
tbol abombs and winny is the worst idea i have ever heard in my life. you will probably get hepatitis or really fuck your liver up. anadrol is just gonna add a bunch of water weight and slow you down and make you winded after going up stairs. if you are going to run an oral use tbol or anavar. if you want a bit more mass i would opt for tbol and it is cheaper. i would run the tbol at 50mg ed for 4 weeks. if you chose anavar then run it at 40mg-75mg ed depending on your budget.if you are at 6% i would go with the tbol because you will make lean gains and you obviously have no problem staying lean
 
bruce410 said:
tbol abombs and winny is the worst idea i have ever heard in my life. you will probably get hepatitis or really fuck your liver up. anadrol is just gonna add a bunch of water weight and slow you down and make you winded after going up stairs. if you are going to run an oral use tbol or anavar. if you want a bit more mass i would opt for tbol and it is cheaper. i would run the tbol at 50mg ed for 4 weeks. if you chose anavar then run it at 40mg-75mg ed depending on your budget.if you are at 6% i would go with the tbol because you will make lean gains and you obviously have no problem staying lean
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I agree.
 
danymal04 said:
Yeah me too, I just been reading about Tbol lately and I heard that stuff is the real deal. But I heard test makes your joints dry, and if I'm goin to be running a lot, I dont want my joints to be jacked up for winter training. Thanks for the help from everyone, I was originally just going to run the Tbol and Winny at the end because I want to add some strength and speed(4.45-40-right now). Does Test make more red blood cells giving you more endurance, because I read up about how Deca does? Thanks everyone
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You've been reading wrong then. Test isn't bad on the joints. The only problem you would have with your joints from running a lot of test is blowing up to fast. Your tendons will not be used to all the extra work. This isn't really an issue for people who dont play rigorous sports, unlike you.

Winstrol is absolute hell for your joints, I would stay away from it. If your worried about them then throw in some EQ. Deca is just as good but it sounds like your a college athlete and it will show up on tests up to 18 months later, although EQ will show up 5 months later.

I think you would be happy with your gains with 4 weeks of Tbol. If that doesn't satisfy you do another cycle with Test.

Just my .02
 
slat1 said:
I agree.
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Ok, so here it goes, my revised cycle with the help of everyone on this board. :)

1. wk(1-4) TBOL-50mgs/ed
2. wk(1-10)Test Cypionate 200mg/ew
3. wk(7-10)Winny-50mg/ed
4. nolvadex
5. proviron
6. clomid
7. Arimidex

Do I need all this PCT for this cycle?
 
southpaw45 said:
You've been reading wrong then. Test isn't bad on the joints. The only problem you would have with your joints from running a lot of test is blowing up to fast. Your tendons will not be used to all the extra work. This isn't really an issue for people who dont play rigorous sports, unlike you.

Winstrol is absolute hell for your joints, I would stay away from it. If your worried about them then throw in some EQ. Deca is just as good but it sounds like your a college athlete and it will show up on tests up to 18 months later, although EQ will show up 5 months later.

I think you would be happy with your gains with 4 weeks of Tbol. If that doesn't satisfy you do another cycle with Test.

Just my .02
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So you think I should just start out with the Tbol then, and see how the results are then if I want to do another cycle, go w/ the test and eq?
 
start researching eq, test, primo, tren, anavar all aas you are interested in. you need to know what you are putting into your body and what will work best for you. run a tbol cycle it is simple and the pct is simple.
 
asianlover said:
this would be much better. use adex to keep you dry. if you are hell bent on only orals then run tbol only.
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exactly...if you wanna go oral only i'd go with tbol by itself @60mg/weel for 4 to 6 weeks then maybe some IGF with my PCT. infact...i may be doing the very same cycle sometime soon.
 
muchmass said:
ditto!!!

keep the tbol and add 500mg to test and you're set,

and some more :ryanh:
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First off anadrol is hard core shit so wait a while before you hit that. And as for test 500mgs a week Common muchmass he is 20 years old how about wait till your at least 24 when your growth plates have fused completely. Even when you first try a cycle try 250 mgs max A WEEK when you start out not 500mgs ONCE AGAIN HE IS A NEWBIE.
 
finally, another voice of reason! has everyone else overlooked the fact that he's only 20??? I know this is the last piece of advice that anyone who's excited about juicing wants to hear, but here it goes.... 1) WAIT 2) Keep training 3) Train Harder 4) eat more / get a good diet 5) research research research!

Once you've done that for a few more years, you'll be nice and ready to start AAS... just my humble opinion!
 
I don't think the winny would be a good idea for football players considering the joint and ligament stress. I usually advice against winny for football, mma & wrestling sports where joint pain can be a major issue. Sprinters like to use it along with baseball players. Put up the cash and change it to anavar in the end.
 
hotnjmuscle said:
finally, another voice of reason! has everyone else overlooked the fact that he's only 20??? I know this is the last piece of advice that anyone who's excited about juicing wants to hear, but here it goes.... 1) WAIT 2) Keep training 3) Train Harder 4) eat more / get a good diet 5) research research research!

Once you've done that for a few more years, you'll be nice and ready to start AAS... just my humble opinion!
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YES K TO YOU!. You are too young in my opinion and you are running 3 compounds and 2 of them are orals your first go round. Not wise at all in my humble opinion. The above advice is excellent advice, but if you are going to run a cycle anyways (which I would guess you are) then run TEST E ONLY. You need to see how your body will react to gear. Also, with multiple compounds running all at once with no experience you won't know what compound is causing the problem if something does go wrong. If gyno pops up, then what? If acne pops up,m then what? All of this will depend on what you decide to run but still, one compound, then 2, then 3, then another 2, etc, etc. Again, it's just my opinion but more doesn't mean better. Do you kill flies with a shotgun? No, of course not because that is not the wisest course of action. Your natural test is thru the roof right now man. If you eat right and train right, you can make leaps and bounds all natural! Use gear after you have gotten the other more important parts of this lifestyle down. There is no need for gear, and especially no need for 3 compounds your first run. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
 
rejection_juice said:
I'm pretty new the world of AAS and I ran 200mg/wk of Cyp. I'd highly recommend that cycle. If you have some winny I suppose you could throw that in towards the end of a 10weeker but I think if you keep your diet clean you could see some serious gains off a relatively small cycle. You'll have the experience of knowing how you react to test and you're probably looking at getting the weight and strength gains you're looking for.

Most of the reading I've done for beginning cycles include using test as a base. I think a lot of guys that have the correct supplies for PCT would probably be ok running 500mg of Test a week but my friends and I have all had great luck just running 200mg/wk for 10 weeks.

I'd give it a shot. Pun intended. Most of the reading I've done has really led me away from orals.

Goodluck
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How much of a gain did you see, and did you use PCT to help keep your gains?


I've decided to run a Tbol and EQ only cycle:

1. wk (1-6) TBOL-50mgs/ed
2. wk (1-12) EQ 300mg/ew
3. wk (12-13) HCG 1000iu every 3 days for 5 injects
4. wk (14-17) 20mg nolvadex for 4 weeks

This looks a lot cleaner and better for my health. Thanks for the help guys!
 
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