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newbie cycle... is it a good one?

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Week 1 to 10: 500mg of test weekly
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
Clenbuterol for PCT


22 x TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE IRAN 333mg/ml (best brand)
2 x NOLVADEX 10mg, 100 tabs by ZENNECA
3 x CLOMID 50mg, 10tabs by IP CHINA
1 x CLENBUTEROL 40 mcg by HUBEI PHARM CO (Size: 50 tabs)


31, 6'2", 175lbs... Been working out off and on for last 5-6 years withhout any help. Good physique, but need SIZE and energy/strength!
 
Looks good and simple....I would not run the clomid at 100mgs ever again{Endo's will tell you this amount is crazy high}...Use 50mgs per day the first week....50mgs per day the second week and 25 mgs per day the 3rd week.{Important to taper serms...or at least the Endo's I speak with do so}
 
Let's add more..!!!


Personally, I think 10 weeks is too short of time. You are not going to really see permanent gains in only ten weeks. You will gain weight, you will get bigger, but your body is going to need more than ten weeks to accustome itself to the new mass and solidfy it.
 
ladycandy said:
Week 1 to 10: 500mg of test weekly
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
Clenbuterol for PCT


22 x TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE IRAN 333mg/ml (best brand)
2 x NOLVADEX 10mg, 100 tabs by ZENNECA
3 x CLOMID 50mg, 10tabs by IP CHINA
1 x CLENBUTEROL 40 mcg by HUBEI PHARM CO (Size: 50 tabs)


31, 6'2", 175lbs... Been working out off and on for last 5-6 years withhout any help. Good physique, but need SIZE and energy/strength!

Looks good, I would do 2 things though, keep Clomid at 50mg per day and keep Nolva at 20mg per day, no need for higher dosages of either one. Have Nolva on hand for during cycle if your nips start acting up (itching, get sore, etc.). Actually you could run Nolva at 10-20mg throughout entire cycle.
 
krishna said:
Don't do clen for pct, you'll lose all your gains.


can anyone confirm this, and explain why?

What if you keep still working out? Which is what I was planning on doing anyway...??
 
its not needed....eat as much as you can PCT and start taking creatine and get plenty of rest.

You should be good.
ladycandy said:
can anyone confirm this, and explain why?

What if you keep still working out? Which is what I was planning on doing anyway...??
 
clen will not make you lose your gains, it help retain them by combating the cortisol enzyme.

wk 1-10 1000mg of test weekly
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily

you only gte one chance to gain as much as possible for your first cycle. I had my boy run 750mg/wk for 10 weeks with the last 5 weeks with winny and he gained 30 lbs...he was a monster. he retained about 15 of it after pct.
 
nodiggitydave said:
This looks similiar to the first cycle I've been recommended elsewhere.

So from what you know now, what's your shopping list?


what do you mean... "whats my shopping list"?
 
Originally you said:

22 x TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE IRAN 333mg/ml (best brand)
2 x NOLVADEX 10mg, 100 tabs by ZENNECA
3 x CLOMID 50mg, 10tabs by IP CHINA
1 x CLENBUTEROL 40 mcg by HUBEI PHARM CO (Size: 50 tabs)

Is it still the same?

Or has the guys advice changed anything for you?
 
nodiggitydave said:
Originally you said:

22 x TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE IRAN 333mg/ml (best brand)
2 x NOLVADEX 10mg, 100 tabs by ZENNECA
3 x CLOMID 50mg, 10tabs by IP CHINA
1 x CLENBUTEROL 40 mcg by HUBEI PHARM CO (Size: 50 tabs)

Is it still the same?

Or has the guys advice changed anything for you?

50mg chlomid on week 13 instead of 100mg
 
Way too much nolva and clomid.

Clen is a stimulant -- it can't possibly help PCT.

At least you're not stacking 10 different things.

In the end, it's mostly about mgs and one thing will work as well as another in many cases.

Having said that, I like primo for a newbie.

And everyone should experience the d-bol "high."
 
Nelson Montana said:
Way too much nolva and clomid.

Clen is a stimulant -- it can't possibly help PCT.

At least you're not stacking 10 different things.

In the end, it's mostly about mgs and one thing will work as well as another in many cases.

Having said that, I like primo for a newbie.

And everyone should experience the d-bol "high."

do you recommend any nolva and clomid? if so, how much?
 
Nelson Montana said:
Way too much nolva and clomid.

Clen is a stimulant -- it can't possibly help PCT.

At least you're not stacking 10 different things.

In the end, it's mostly about mgs and one thing will work as well as another in many cases.

Having said that, I like primo for a newbie.

And everyone should experience the d-bol "high."

I agree. Dbol for the first 4 weeks at 40 mg
 
lifthard2005 said:
clen will not make you lose your gains, it help retain them by combating the cortisol enzyme.

wk 1-10 1000mg of test weekly
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily

you only gte one chance to gain as much as possible for your first cycle. I had my boy run 750mg/wk for 10 weeks with the last 5 weeks with winny and he gained 30 lbs...he was a monster. he retained about 15 of it after pct.

My ass!
 
ladycandy said:
Week 1 to 10: 500mg of test weekly
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
Clenbuterol for PCT

!

how come nothing is taken in weeks 11 and 12?
 
should HCG be run for PCT or during the cycle? how much?

also, when is a good time to get a blood test after the cycle? what do you look specifically at? liver? test? what else?
 
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