Newbie? Anavar Deca or Dbol

[Scaggs]

I've been trainig for 2 years now and feel im ready to start a cycle. from my research i've found on this board, i've gathered that avavar and deca have the least amount of side effects and are a good beginner steroid. I don't know too much about dbol but don't you need to stack dbol to keep from getting too many side effects? I don't need to look like the incredible hulk, i just need a boost. My biggest fear is hairloss. I don't really care about anything else. What do you guys suggest. I can only aqquire Dbol, Anavar tabs, and Deca through my source, Im 24 6'0 170lbs 5% bodyfat. i want to get up to about 185.

Any suggestions would be really appreciated.

Nicey Nice,

Scaggs

 

[stonecold54]

not sure where you heard that you need to stack with dbol to not get side effects. I would probably do the dbol and deca stack. it will be cheaper and I am assuming you have your anti-e's for the dbol. and I am also assuming you know that deca's gyno cannot be controlled by anti e's since in is converts to progesterone. anavar is a fine oral but for $ sake I would not do it if I had dbol available. first cycle with dbol and deca stack you should easily reach your goal with good eating and hard training

stonecold54

 

[drveejay11]

D-bol: great gains, you WILL lose hair if predisposed to MPB
Deca: good gains, you may lose some hair if predisposed to MPB
Anavar: little gains, no hairloss. This is mainly a cutting drug.

I would suggest deca while taking along side ancillary hair support creams and shampoos. You will see good solid gains from deca especially since this is your 1st cycle.

A mild anti-E will also be indicated due to the moderate water bloat you will get from deca. B ut, looking at your stats, I don't think you'll need one! A little estrogen will be good for your growth.

 

[Scaggs]

actually i don't have any anti-e's at all. what would be a good anti-e?
ok so i think im looking at either anavar or the dbol then. i like the anavar because of the no hairloss. the $ is not really a factor. i've wasted thousands on prohormones, poppers, test patches, andro's and every other hyped up crap and gotten no real results. thats why i look at some of these prices and say, hey for 15 lbs thats a gaurantee the $$ is worth it. i'm a little scared of sticking me with a needle only because i don't want to screw up. i don't know how to do it.

hey have any of you ever ordered from www.iroids.com they seem to have everything and you can just order it. they say they don't scam..

thanks for the advice

Scaggs

 

[Canuck4]

Id do the Deca Dbol combo.
Great newbie cycle.

 

[Scaggs]

D-bol: great gains, you WILL lose hair if predisposed to MPB

what exactly is MPB and how do i know if im predisposed to it?
i was born with really thing hair but i have no balding patterns at age 24..

any help on this?

Scaggs

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

D-bol: great gains, you WILL lose hair if predisposed to MPB

what exactly is MPB and how do i know if im predisposed to it?
i was born with really thing hair but i have no balding patterns at age 24..

any help on this?

Scaggs

MPB=Male Pattern Baldness. you know, you got the gene to go bald. use arimidex for an anti-E. i am using arimidex with D-bol right now and shot up 8or9 lbs in 6 days. 30mg dbol with 1/2 tab of 1mg arimidex a day. i ordered some proscar, for the hair loss deal. not sure how well proscar helps with dbol cycles. i am taking megadoses of saw palmetto extract in the meanwhile and it seems to be helping.....but i am getting a bit more hair fallout. that sucks. kept almost all of it up till 30 years old.

 

[Scaggs]

MPB=Male Pattern Baldness. you know, you got the gene to go bald. use arimidex for an anti-E. i am using arimidex with D-bol right now and shot up 8or9 lbs in 6 days. 30mg dbol with 1/2 tab of 1mg arimidex a day. i ordered some proscar, for the hair loss deal. not sure how well proscar helps with dbol cycles. i am taking megadoses of saw palmetto extract in the meanwhile and it seems to be helping.....but i am getting a bit more hair fallout. that sucks. kept almost all of it up till 30 years old.

hey atleast you kept it untill 30. it sucks to worry about hairloss in your early 20's. i don't think im predisposed to MPB. my grandfathers had all their hair and my father has his. but my two uncles, (mothers brothers) have MPB. so i don't really know.

im jotting that down. proscar and saw palmetto. thanks for the imput. once it falls out its gone isn't it. even after coming off cycles, they don't grow back do they?

Scaggs

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

MPB=Male Pattern Baldness. you know, you got the gene to go bald. use arimidex for an anti-E. i am using arimidex with D-bol right now and shot up 8or9 lbs in 6 days. 30mg dbol with 1/2 tab of 1mg arimidex a day. i ordered some proscar, for the hair loss deal. not sure how well proscar helps with dbol cycles. i am taking megadoses of saw palmetto extract in the meanwhile and it seems to be helping.....but i am getting a bit more hair fallout. that sucks. kept almost all of it up till 30 years old.

hey atleast you kept it untill 30. it sucks to worry about hairloss in your early 20's. i don't think im predisposed to MPB. my grandfathers had all their hair and my father has his. but my two uncles, (mothers brothers) have MPB. so i don't really know.

im jotting that down. proscar and saw palmetto. thanks for the imput. once it falls out its gone isn't it. even after coming off cycles, they don't grow back do they?

Scaggs

also add spironolactone cream and xandrox cream to the proscar and SP. You need a prescription to get those in the US, and i have not gotten around to making my own spiro cream like many others on the board do. but proscar and or saw palmetto extract plus the spiro and xandrox cream should prevent hair loss and maybe regrow hair (i have seen posts of guys saying the creams regrew hair for them).
My moms dad had a full blown head of hair till he was like 80. and had a high forehead like me too. so i hope i take after him. my uncle on that side is pretty balding, and my dad is somewhat balding. i'm going with grandpa on the mothers side all the way.

 

[AceFrehley]

AS

I can't really tell you what is better. I can tell you I was in your position and just needed a little boost/motivation.

I am afraid of any and all side effects of AS including liver, hair, natural test, kidney, etc. (Hypochondriac)

After researching, I chose Oxandrolone (Anavar) tabs (5 MG) at a total of 4 tabs (20 MG) per day.

I am three weeks in and have noticed:

Increased Muscle Hardnessand Vascularity
Increased Weight (4-5 lbs)
Lowered Body Fat (5-6%)
No noticable side effects AT ALL!

People that have gone to the gym with me for years and have no idea about the OX are starting to comment on my "physique". This has NEVER happened in my years of weight lifing on ANY SUPPLEMENT!

My two cents...

 

[Scaggs]

AceFrehley

Nice post bro. Thats what I was looking for.
I have decided to go with the anavar myself. I think it should give me the boost im looking for without significant sides.

I can't wait to start it.



Scaggs

 

[manny78]

Deca at 400 mg with Anavar at 30-40 mg (and here I'm talking about legit stuff) would be a nice newbie cycle. Of course I would prefer to throw some test but that's personal. Few sides and great gains as long as you eat a lot.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

Anavar is something i can't seem to get a hold of.......and i am like you all and hate to see side effects. shoot me a PM or email if you know a source of legit anavar, i'd like to give it a shot.

 

[Scaggs]

Deca at 400 mg with Anavar at 30-40 mg (and here I'm talking about legit stuff) would be a nice newbie cycle. Of course I would prefer to throw some test but that's personal. Few sides and great gains as long as you eat a lot

That sounds good too. The only thing that shy's me away from Deca is that its injectable. I have no clue on how to set up an injection. How do i know its sterile? how do i know there is no air bubbles in it? how do i know where to inject, If i had someone to show me my first shot first hand, i'd be fine. I'm just afraid of sticking me in the wrong spot and messing myself up. Injection are better for your system too. Liver atleast.

Thanks manny78, maybe i'll try that on my 2nd cylce.

Scaggs

 

[manny78]

Deca at 400 mg with Anavar at 30-40 mg (and here I'm talking about legit stuff) would be a nice newbie cycle. Of course I would prefer to throw some test but that's personal. Few sides and great gains as long as you eat a lot

That sounds good too. The only thing that shy's me away from Deca is that its injectable. I have no clue on how to set up an injection. How do i know its sterile? how do i know there is no air bubbles in it? how do i know where to inject, If i had someone to show me my first shot first hand, i'd be fine. I'm just afraid of sticking me in the wrong spot and messing myself up. Injection are better for your system too. Liver atleast.

Thanks manny78, maybe i'll try that on my 2nd cylce.

Scaggs

check for 2Thick's site injection website. Great info there. I can hear you on that one. I felt the same the first time I stuck a needle in my butt......

 

[Scaggs]

i found 2thick's injection site. that helps big time. i hope that stays there for a while. i'll be needing that when im ready.

If there is anyone else who is interested in it, go here
http://www.elitefitness.com/members/2thick/

Scaggs