newbbie question - help to come off

[smb_1969]

hello to all, great board, great comments.. I am on my 2nd one - first was Deca for 8 wks and geez, clomid + HCG - I was in f* hell - my gf loved my body, but the sex live went down to sh*.. I was in pain for 2 months and went on my second cycle..

4 wks of deca / 8 wks of prima / 6 wks of windstrol - time to come off, I know.. soo

Q1) How much clomid should i do?? 50mg / day for 3 wks?
Q2) Start clomid after 3 days of the last shot???
Q3) 50mg Zinc, 400mg Magensium, 2000mg MACA, 2250mg Avena Sativa, 1250mg Tribulus - picked it up from one of the postings.. what am I missing?? do I need to buy a book to get that magic Nelsen post recovery deal.

Thank you for all.

 

[meathead12]

Is the Deca only the first 4 weeks, or in the middle, the end?
Is the Primobolan (or is it primoteston?) run the entire length of the cycle? So, is it an 8 week cycle?

1)I've done 150mg ed week1/ 100mg ed week 2/ 50mg ed week3

2) Start clomid like 2 weeks after the last shot of prima(whatever that is) The Deca will be out of the system, and the winstrol will be also, as long as you aren't starting the winstrol after the "prima."

#0 Never tried any of these, but everybody raves about them, I'm sure it cannot hurt.

 

[smb_1969]

it was all done sequentially - did not want to stack it this time. deca and prima a long gone from my system, so all I have in my system right now is windstrol, so I should start 3 day after, right?

 

[TerminatorX]

Yeah dude, start your recovery after 3 days... (winnie has a relatively short half-life of 1.5 days)

Day1 take 300mg Clomid
Day2-8 100mg clomid
Day 9-21 50mg clomid
(may want ot extend this due to the long period of shutdown you have exposed yourself to)

Every day take 20mg Nolvadex, 1000mg Tribulus, 1000-2000mg Avena savina and Maca root, 1000mg Milk thistle, and I always add 500mg Rhodiola (its an adaptagen so its good to take when the body is under stress like when you come off)

Also if you have it or can get it, run clen at 80mg-120mg/day (depending on how susceptible you are to it) for 2weeks then 2weeks off. It is a good anti-catabolic and will help you maintain mass and I find also drive when you begin to train 'natural' again.

These are my suggestions buddy.
All the best

 

[smb_1969]

terminator, thanks man for all the good advice. On another note - no more of these long cycles again - I think 8 wks is perfect, at least IMO. Well, I will let you know if I had the same nightmear and kept the gf this time -

 

[02gixxersix]

You're only having problems because your not cycling correctly. Deca only is not a good cycle. There is also no reaosn to run deca for only 4 weeks. Might as well have saved your money. That just looks like a terrible cycle to me. Anyways what you want to run is test, preferrably a long acting test like enanthate or cypionate, at 250-500 mg per week. Your girlfriend will be begging you to stop because your sex drive will be through the roof. By the way run this for 10 weeks. start your clomid therapy 3 weeks after your last test shot. IMO test should be the base of ANY cycle.