New To The Game And Need Help Please!!!

[mayb1day]

Hi guys,

I am a 28yo 6'4 300lb guy from NYC. I have been working out for a couple of weeks now with cardio being my main focus. I have lost 35 lbs since and I am tempted to get into some sort of steroid that will get rid of all this fat. A few people tell me to take Winstrol and that after a month or two I can lose 60lbs if I diet and train hard and that it will give me that lean athletic look. I am not looking to get huge I just want to be fit and have a good solid build. Can someone please guide me. A friend says i should do Sustanon for the first 8 weeks even though I am fat and then Winstrol. I would like to minimize the use of anything I will be taking, so what is the best way to go about it? I was thinking to get down to 275 naturally then take the Winny. I need help and guidence please...

BIG DOG

 

[Macronne]

History?, age?,

Well i'd better say go to a health store and buy some fat burners with cardio and a low carbs diet.

Dont mess with winstrol now, its not a fat burner by the way.

 

[mayb1day]

I am 28 and have just started working out I am 6'4 300lbs.

 

[chefbone]

I am 28 and have just started working out I am 6'4 300lbs.

It doesn't work like that dude.....Sorry to burst your bubble but AAS's are not miracle elixirs. Steroids do not help you lose fat. Controlled dieting and cardio does. Eat right, sleep well and train hard for the next year or so and you may be ready for some AAS. In a year you should be able to lose about 40-50 pounds. Go to the Diet and cardio forum.....There's a dude there named Pintoca who is a diet Guru who has done a lot to lose weight. Good Luck

 

[Macronne]

Well, you better start controlling your diet first, then think about roids.

Start with a low carb diet, and low fat. Try spreading your meals like 6 small meals per day. Do cardio 4-5 times a week in the morning before breakfast, and get a fat burner, there is loads out there which gives great results.

 

[mayb1day]

Hydroxycut?

 

[chefbone]

Hydroxycut?

No....First and foremost get your diet in check. Post it up if you like...
AND BE HONEST. I'm a diet and food guru and I'll let you know what I think.
Secondly, cardio at least 5 days a week at no less than 45 minutes at a time. If you can't do 45 minutes, slowly build your way up to it.
Thirdly, after you have done what I've mentioned above for at least 3-4 months, then you may start adding supplements such as fat-burners. I prefer Liqui-clen for this. It works wonders but don't use it until the first two objectives are second nature and instinctive!

 

[wayneboard1]

It doesn't work like that dude.....Sorry to burst your bubble but AAS's are not miracle elixirs. Steroids do not help you lose fat. Controlled dieting and cardio does. Eat right, sleep well and train hard for the next year or so and you may be ready for some AAS. In a year you should be able to lose about 40-50 pounds. Go to the Diet and cardio forum.....There's a dude there named Pintoca who is a diet Guru who has done a lot to lose weight. Good Luck

The Chef cooks up some good recipies and the above is one of them. You will see wonderous results without any gear.

 

[zips92]

BIG DOG, a lot of guys will take AAS to get up to your size, but not the other direction. If you are using AAS, regardless of type, you are talking the most expensive diet products in the world, and without getting technical at all, that's not they're intent. Listen to what these experinced bros are telling you, they will help you, and congrats to the courage to make your post.

By the way, get a new friend if he advised you to take Sustanon if your goals are to lose 60 lbs. and get a lean athletic look from 300 lb. Check out one of EF sponsors, AF Store (http://www.anabolicfitness.net). They have a lot of unique products that should help you enhance your cardio and fat loss goals.

Good luck to you. Keep us posted!

 

[bigtravis]

definately get your bodyfat % down. you'll feel better about your results with using aas at a lower %. during the time that you are doing this learn more about aas. it doesn't take long to learn the basics. in the end you'll be glad you did. you have nothing to lose, but alot to gain as far as knowledge and better results. good luck bro. train hard. T

 

[mayb1day]

Thanks for all your support guys! I am definately on a strict cardio and light weight trainning program. This includes treadmill for 1 hr at 4.5 and stairmaster for 15 mins. My results so far are nice but im sure most of it is water weight. My diet consists of the following.

Breakfast- 1 banana 1 apple total whole wheat cereal and 2 glasses of water.
snack-fruit or raw almonds
Lunch- Tuna fish out of can 6oz. and a salad with light dressing. 4 glasses water.
snack- fruit or nuts again.
Dinner- Roasted chicken, grilled chicken or baked chicken with veggies(green) 2 glasses of water.
snack-pretzels(i i know but late at night thats all that i can get my hands on)...

Any suggestions?

I will supply pics soon.

 

[wayneboard1]

Thanks for all your support guys! I am definately on a strict cardio and light weight trainning program. This includes treadmill for 1 hr at 4.5 and stairmaster for 15 mins. My results so far are nice but im sure most of it is water weight. My diet consists of the following.

Breakfast- 1 banana 1 apple total whole wheat cereal and 2 glasses of water.
snack-fruit or raw almonds
Lunch- Tuna fish out of can 6oz. and a salad with light dressing. 4 glasses water.
snack- fruit or nuts again.
Dinner- Roasted chicken, grilled chicken or baked chicken with veggies(green) 2 glasses of water.
snack-pretzels(i i know but late at night thats all that i can get my hands on)...

Any suggestions?

I will supply pics soon.

The first thing I would see to change is add a protein shake in their somewhere. You are eating healthy and that is good, but eliminate the pretzels at night and maybe add your protein shake there. There are some very knowledgable guys on here about diet and the diet forum also has some good threads about fine tuining your caloric intake.

 

[chefbone]

Thanks for all your support guys! I am definately on a strict cardio and light weight trainning program. This includes treadmill for 1 hr at 4.5 and stairmaster for 15 mins. My results so far are nice but im sure most of it is water weight. My diet consists of the following.

Breakfast- 1 banana 1 apple total whole wheat cereal and 2 glasses of water.
snack-fruit or raw almonds
Lunch- Tuna fish out of can 6oz. and a salad with light dressing. 4 glasses water.
snack- fruit or nuts again.
Dinner- Roasted chicken, grilled chicken or baked chicken with veggies(green) 2 glasses of water.
snack-pretzels(i i know but late at night thats all that i can get my hands on)...

Any suggestions?

I will supply pics soon.

Your protein intake should be 3x what it is now. The reason being, you want to maintain the muscle you have. Get some Whey protein(23-28g of protein per serving) and maybe some Casein and drink these throughout the day.
Do cardio first thing in the morning, if possible.
Consume one whey shake as soon as you awake or after the cardio.
Eat breakfast.
Instead of a snack after breakfast, eat egg whites. Maybe 6-8.
Instead of pretzels at night, have a serving of low-fat yogurt or cottage cheese withy tomatoes.

 

[mayb1day]

Sounds good. I will keep you guys posted.

 

[crunkjuice]

maybe Im just ignorant, but how the hell do you lose 35 pounds in a couple of weeks?
I think that cardio and diet not drugs should be your main focus. You don't want to lose the weight too fast or I think a big part of what your losing is going to be muscle. You want to lose weight, but you want to lose FAT not muscle. If you lose 50 pounds in the next 3 months, and half of that is muscle that is going to be much less beneficial than say losing 75 pounds over the next year where most of it is fat. I have often thought that people who weigh 300 pounds to start with could end up looking pretty jacked if they were able to lose 60 or 70 pounds that is primarily fat...Also make sure you are eating plenty of protein like chefbone said....from what I have read, during cardio Glutamine is the primary amino acid that muscle is broken down for, there is speculation that some supplemental glutamine BEFORE your pre-meal morning cardio would be beneficial in burning the fat and keeping the muscle...I dont have enough first hand experience with this particular idea, but I have read about it quite a bit. One other idea for you is to drink even more water than you are, cold water helps burn a few extra calories because your body has to warm it up, and staying well hydrated will help with actual fat loss (not just water weight because your dehydrated)
also congratulations on starting a workout program, stick with it. I have seen plenty of people start working out and quit a few weeks later, the main difference I have seem between those who get results and those who dont is dedication, and intensity. all the supplements and drugs only assist those two things, because without dedication and intensity your not going to get the results you want. Good luck bro!

 

[mayb1day]

maybe Im just ignorant, but how the hell do you lose 35 pounds in a couple of weeks?
I think that cardio and diet not drugs should be your main focus. You don't want to lose the weight too fast or I think a big part of what your losing is going to be muscle. You want to lose weight, but you want to lose FAT not muscle. If you lose 50 pounds in the next 3 months, and half of that is muscle that is going to be much less beneficial than say losing 75 pounds over the next year where most of it is fat. I have often thought that people who weigh 300 pounds to start with could end up looking pretty jacked if they were able to lose 60 or 70 pounds that is primarily fat...Also make sure you are eating plenty of protein like chefbone said....from what I have read, during cardio Glutamine is the primary amino acid that muscle is broken down for, there is speculation that some supplemental glutamine BEFORE your pre-meal morning cardio would be beneficial in burning the fat and keeping the muscle...I dont have enough first hand experience with this particular idea, but I have read about it quite a bit. One other idea for you is to drink even more water than you are, cold water helps burn a few extra calories because your body has to warm it up, and staying well hydrated will help with actual fat loss (not just water weight because your dehydrated)
also congratulations on starting a workout program, stick with it. I have seen plenty of people start working out and quit a few weeks later, the main difference I have seem between those who get results and those who dont is dedication, and intensity. all the supplements and drugs only assist those two things, because without dedication and intensity your not going to get the results you want. Good luck bro!

Thanks for the support! I feel great right now and I included a 30 minute walking session on my lunch break because I have a gym right next door. the extra 250cal I can burn in that 30mins is huge I think.

 

[satchboogie]

first off, if i were you id purchase some gear from the AF store...

thermorexin has helped many to lose weight FAST!
i have used it and wont cut again without it.. its amazing!

second...
educate yourself bro..

 

[swolenole]

Your protein intake should be 3x what it is now. The reason being, you want to maintain the muscle you have. Get some Whey protein(23-28g of protein per serving) and maybe some Casein and drink these throughout the day.
Do cardio first thing in the morning, if possible.
Consume one whey shake as soon as you awake or after the cardio.
Eat breakfast.
Instead of a snack after breakfast, eat egg whites. Maybe 6-8.
Instead of pretzels at night, have a serving of low-fat yogurt or cottage cheese withy tomatoes.

Chefbone is right on...good luck and stick to the program...in 3 months time ...It will become second nature and in 6 months time it will become a lifestyle..

 

[Maxx Out]

Hi guys,

I am a 28yo 6'4 300lb guy from NYC. I have been working out for a couple of weeks now with cardio being my main focus.

BIG DOG

U got a long way to go before even thinking of touching aas...

 

[mayb1day]

U got a long way to go before even thinking of touching aas...

Max What weight do you think I should be at before doing any aas? Again I do not wanna get big, I just want to have an athletic tight build.

 

[Maxx Out]

Weight is a relitive(sp) term. Get yourself a good muscle base brother! Minimum one year of weight training and then u can consider aas. Good luck it'll be a long difficult battle but there's nothing like the rewards it gives!

 

[fog_hat1981]

It's not a matter of how much you weigh bro. It's more a matter of your knowledge of what your body is able to accomplish and how chemical's effect your body.

As of right now your diet shows that you know nothing in regards to nutrition and that is the basis of all AAS gains/benefits. Calculate your BMR and learn more about the benefits of nutrition and I'm sure you'll see that you're eating like a 90 year old woman. Your body is holding onto fat because it thinks it's starving.

I'm new to this board but if it's anything like the other's I've been to you have plenty to learn in the Nutrition section. Start there before you continue asking questions in regards to AAS.

 

[mayb1day]

Well trainning is going very well, cardio is kicking my ass but im feeling 100x better than I did a month ago!

 

[zips92]

Well trainning is going very well, cardio is kicking my ass but im feeling 100x better than I did a month ago!