new to site.. new to gear...

[dizzydave]

Hello everyone.. I joined the site to find a place to talk about using gear. Also to find new sources to purchase said gear in case my current guy is not available.

Stats: 34 years old. Lifting off and on most of my life, but more strictly for the past 4 years, until a shoulder injury a year ago. But I'm back at it. Most weight put on w/out gear is 225lbs. And stopped growing.

I'm now on my 5th week of Test E at 600mg a week. Strength has gone up quickly and I weigh 240lbs.

My source asks when I'm going to get on Tren, but I want to keep running test for now, as I know tren is more hard core.

Basically I'm looking for advice on best way to introduce tren if I go that route... when to get on nolvadex while on test, and if there are ony locals or best ways to purchase gear.

Pm me if needed, I'm still getting a feel for navigating this site.

Thanks.

 

[bonacris]

How many cycles have you run before. Tren isn't something that you just decide to do. It is a very serious drug.

Also we dont talk about sources here. Go to evolutionary.org most of us are there. Sign up to get to the source board

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[dizzydave]

How many cycles have you run before. Tren isn't something that you just decide to do. It is a very serious drug.

Also we dont talk about sources here. Go to evolutionary.org most of us are there. Sign up to get to the source board

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True.....tren is serious stuff. Looking at the results its hard to not want to get on it.

I haven't run enough cycles to even get on it. Hence why I'm running test for a while to see how my body reacts. I'm just gathering infor mation for future use and when I'm ready to introduce tren...

 

[Jbranken]

Don't let your source push tren on you like that. It's as harsh as it comes. There's so much time to grow and cycle before ever touching it. Have you tried primo? Eq? Mast? Npp? Winny, var, dbol? Have you got your bf down below 10%? There's a lot of different things to experience in bodybuilding before rushing into tren. Try to enjoy the journey rather than looking for instant gratification. Welcome to EF

 

[mdpasha]

Don't let your source push tren on you like that. It's as harsh as it comes. There's so much time to grow and cycle before ever touching it. Have you tried primo? Eq? Mast? Npp? Winny, var, dbol? Have you got your bf down below 10%? There's a lot of different things to experience in bodybuilding before rushing into tren. Try to enjoy the journey rather than looking for instant gratification. Welcome to EF

Good advice

 

[Zyglamail]

when to get on nolvadex while on test,

You should already be on an anti-E while on that much test, if your not and dont have labs to show your E isnt elevated(which id bet money it is) then your rolling dice and may be shopping for a bra sooner than you think.

 

[dizzydave]

Don't let your source push tren on you like that. It's as harsh as it comes. There's so much time to grow and cycle before ever touching it. Have you tried primo? Eq? Mast? Npp? Winny, var, dbol? Have you got your bf down below 10%? There's a lot of different things to experience in bodybuilding before rushing into tren. Try to enjoy the journey rather than looking for instant gratification. Welcome to EF

good advice indeed! Thanks. But no i haven't tried all those others you mentioned. i was going to get winny this spring when i started getting more strict on my diet and wanted to dry out a little bit. i float around 14%bf. well used too, lately i have been eating as much as i can, trying to get up to 4000 plus calories in a day.


All the other "gears" you mentioned i can get from my source though.


what would be the next step to add to Test E??
i'm aware of the deca-dick, but Test should counteract that right?

your thoughts?

 

[bonacris]

what would be the next step to add to Test E??
i'm aware of the deca-dick, but Test should counteract that right?

your thoughts?

Test wont counter act deca dick. Its caused by elevated progesterone and prolactin. Control these and deca dick wont be an issue



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[dizzydave]

How many cycles have you run before. Tren isn't something that you just decide to do. It is a very serious drug.

Also we dont talk about sources here. Go to evolutionary.org most of us are there. Sign up to get to the source board

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joined up at evolutionary.org too, same username.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

Everyone has given you great advice so far.

As far as tren.. it is really up to you if you want to use it or not. You have a good amount of experience, so if you feel you are ready, then I say go for it. If you go into your cycle thinking tren is going to cause all of these problems, then as soon as you get just the hint of a side effect.. you going to blow it out of proportion. Make sure you are ready, protect yourself, and run the necessary support and you will be fine. Tren is #1 for a reason. Nothing will transform your body like it.

I would finish up your Test cycle without adding tren to it. If it's not broken, don't fix. A good addition right now for your cycle would be sarms. Specifically GW-50 and S-4. I could go on and on about how great they are.. but instead, here are some articles for you to read.

Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators (SARMS) - Evolutionary.org

GW-501516 Facts - Evolutionary.org

GW-501516 (Cardarine) with your cycle - Evolutionary.org

Andarine (S-4) - Evolutionary.org

S-4 (Andarine) ? a comparison to Winstrol - Evolutionary.org

Once you are done with this cycle.. do a full a thorough PCT. Then you can start game planning your tren cycle.