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New to needles, Test E, Deca D (with dbol kickstart)

D-a-n

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First of all, new at the forum, great community, love it!! :)

I am a young man turned 23 years.

Sorry for my bad english, im norwegian, lol.

Have excercised active for 2 years with weights and cardio.
Hit the studio 4 days a week. Cardio before and after work in recent time (in the form of bicycling or jogging)

My diet is pretty strict, I hold on to 5 meals with fruit in between.

Breakfast:

oat (dont know what its called, its with milk / Rough bread with ham or similar
1 shake PF Whey isolate
2 Omega 3 (crill oil)
2 Creapure pyruvate
1 multivitamine

Between meals:
1 fruit (banana, orange, apple)

Lunch:
Rough bread with catfish cake / Pasta and tuna / chicken and salad

Between meals:
1 fruit (banana, orange, apple)
2 Omega 3 (krill oil)
2 Creapure pyruvate


(training)

Right after the training:
1 shake PF Whey isolate
1 fruit (banana, orange, apple)



Dinner:
Beef, broccoli, mushrooms with strong spices (no sauce and fried minimal) / Grilled chicken with lettuce, avocado and rice .. etc..

Afternoon:
Rough bread with ham or similar


before bedtime:
oat (dont know what its called, its with milk
1 shake PF Whey isolate
2 Omega 3 (krill oil)
2 Creapure pyruvate
2 ZMA-X

No heart diseases or poor health in the family, only hyperactivity and ADHD, hehe..

Going to visit my doctor and get blood work on paper to be sure anyway ;-)

Sorry that I did not write this right away, I was just a little eager to hear what you think of the selection of gear and i hope you guys will guide me to my cycle :-)

Cheers

Previously did a stand alone d.bol (long ago) that I will not bother doing again, was bloated and over half of the gains disappeared. (water)

Completed T.bol now for a few weeks ago, took 50mg ed for 4 weeks, made me hard and I was somewhat leaner and upped a bit in strength.

Now, I want some tips of you with a little more knowledge so I can come up with a cycle that is good for strength and mass, as well getting lean/ripped.

But not for heavy (will be a "mild" testo, deca)

Needles is no problem, but I would like to know; what is a good idea for someone who is fresh with testo To begin with, so I do not take excessive doses.


Age: 23
Height: 1.69
Weight: 72kg
Bodyfat about 15-18% (not quite sure but i want to get ripped!!)


So I have read alittle about the different types and came up with something that looks like this:

week1:

Kick Start the D-bol 30mg ED
500MG Testosterone Enanthate
400MG Deca Decanoate

week2-10

Kick Start the D-bol 40mg ED
500MG Testosterone Enanthate
400MG Deca Decanoate


week11-13

20MG Nolvadex ED


Would love some thoughts about PCT! :)



I hope there is someone out there that will give me an indication of the layout of dosage.

And also when i use Clenbuterol, HCG , for how long etc..

Regards, Pyrellus! And thanks for all help in advance :)
 
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300 - 500mg test. 400mg deca. Nolva and HCG for PCT (and some Clenbuterol if you like) Altern between gluts and shoulders for shots
 
Kick starting with 1 week of dbol? no benefit in that. Just stick to a regulat test + deca cycle with an AI, for PCT you can run clomid+nolvadex+arimidex.
 
Thanks for the replies :)

Which days would i like to set it? Is it ok with 250mg test and 200mg deca every 4 day?

(Edit: how would you like to kickstart eClenbuterol? Or is it no benefits at a 10week cycle?)
For PCT i will take your tip and use hcg to djpoem.

I would like to hear opinions on clenbuterol, because i have some friends who have reacted pretty bad on it. what is the safe dosage and how much do i up it and how frequently until i hit border? And is it ok to take clenbuterol oral?

Thanks in advance.
 
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If you've only been training for 2 years, I would wait another 3. You will gain naturally fine and those gains will be keepable.
 
MMmmm Catfish Cake... my favorite.. :D
 
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