New take on dropping bf%

[YoungAndWeak]

Hi guys well since its summer and all I tried doing dnp for 7 days straight,lost 5 lbs.Its all good now I am 5'10 190 like 13%bf Id say.I used to be really fat and carry lots of estrogenic fat around the nipples/love handles/lower abs.Even after my dnp run along with liquidex and yohimburn I havent seen so much improvement.IM starting my cycle soon which will be the following:
Test Cyp 1-9 @600mg weekly
Deca 1-9@400mg weekly
Liquidex .5mg eod
Frontloading first week,clomid 2.5 weeks after last shot.I may add winny or anavar in weeks 6-12.
My question is do you think its practical to do cycles like this to add huge amounts of muscle to throw of the ratio of fat to muscle?Or is it necessary to cut to get ripped?What type of diet should I go about doing on this cycle to say add 20lbm...and lose a few lbs of fat?

 

[YoungAndWeak]

PS

I also forgot to add like when Im on can I do alot of cardio or will it inhibit my gains too much?Im hoping I can add alot of muscle to therefore speed up my metabolism and burn off my love handles and lower ab fat.

 

[spentagn]

Bulking requires excess calories. With excess calories comes fat. Make the choice of what you want.

 

[Golfer18--old]

Bulking requires excess calories. With excess calories comes fat. Make the choice of what you want.

Yup, you must pick one or the other............

 

[YoungAndWeak]

I agree with you but IM saying like if I add like 20lbs of muscle and no extra fat wouldnt my bf drop because the ratio is thrown off due to those extra 20lbs?In other words can I go from 190 13 bf to like 210 and look more cut?

 

[Nathan]

Yes, but you have to know your body to do this. Here's a break down:
Say you are 200lbs. @ 10% bf. Then you have 20lbs of fat on you. Adding 20lbs of muscle to that with no added bf, then you are 220lbs with 20lbs of fat which means your bf is 20/220 x 100% = 9.1% roughy. So, your bf will have gone down. The trick is eating very clean and only a little, maybe 300-500kcal above maintenance. You also need very androgenic gear to achieve this IMO, preferably fina.

 

[YoungAndWeak]

Isnt Test androgenic?How bout bout adding a lil winny in there towards the end to drop bf plus raise strength which leads to more muscle?

 

[Nathan]

Isnt Test androgenic?How bout bout adding a lil winny in there towards the end to drop bf plus raise strength which leads to more muscle?

Yeah test will probably do you fine in this case but seriously fina is the shit when it comes to solid gains with no bf or even a decrease in bf.

 

[argent]

You could go with the ever popular test AND fina cycle.

 

[Nathan]

You could go with the ever popular test AND fina cycle.

Point - argent.

 

[FatChops]

I would go with Nathan's advise because you could be on a cut cycle and if you like shit then it ain't doin' nothing for you? Eat clean and you'll see results, remember gear isn't a "magic pill".

FC

 

[BBBodie]

I agree with you but IM saying like if I add like 20lbs of muscle and no extra fat wouldnt my bf drop because the ratio is thrown off due to those extra 20lbs?In other words can I go from 190 13 bf to like 210 and look more cut?

There's plenty of threads on this, do a search.......and do the research.

 

[YoungAndWeak]

k thanks for the info

Thank you guys but hey Ive done my research and I have some fina laying around my house as of this moment.Problem is my brother is gonna be doing the fina/test thing =-).I will definately be using fina later on but for now I didnt wanna poke everyday.Im gonna be doing the deca/test 1x a week and my bro is gonna have to do his fina ed lol.We wanna see who gets bigger and stronger.What do you guys think of adding 50mg winny ed in there or say 50mg "oral masteron" to stay hard and vascular throughout the cycle?Keep in mind its summer and Im still gona be using the liquidex but I wanna look nice and hard.I know you guys r gonna tell me use the fina but I'll be hitting that later on.

 

[genarr3]

I agree with you but IM saying like if I add like 20lbs of muscle and no extra fat wouldnt my bf drop because the ratio is thrown off due to those extra 20lbs?In other words can I go from 190 13 bf to like 210 and look more cut?

Bud, 20lbs is a shitload of muscle. There's no way you're going to put on that much weight and not bring along some fat with it.
Now if you said you wanted to maintain what muscle you have while dieting I'd say you're right on track.
I think you're expecting far too much from the steroids, they are just an aid, not magical.

 

[liquidmuscle]

just use winny 50mgs ed, fina 75mgs ed and test prop at 50-100mgs ed and boom you have less fat,lean quality muscle...i hate guys who run around my gym thinking they are big cuz they are using anadrol w/1g of test tru they have siz but a nasty gut to go with it, you do the math chicks dig lean muscle mass not santa clause with biceps

 

[Nathan]

Bud, 20lbs is a shitload of muscle. There's no way you're going to put on that much weight and not bring along some fat with it.
Now if you said you wanted to maintain what muscle you have while dieting I'd say you're right on track.
I think you're expecting far too much from the steroids, they are just an aid, not magical.

I agree that you have to set realistic goals. That is why I suggested fina because @ 75mg ED a fina furst-timer CAN add 20lbs lbm and lose a bit of fat at the same time. Fuck, I've done it. But fina is more potent than anything else. If you don't want to incorporate fina then readjust your goals somewhat IMO.

 

[YoungAndWeak]

Ok what Im gonna do is this is a test/deca cycle so Im gonna go all out on bulking I may put the winny in there to keep bloat down.Lets say I do this and take like 3 months off could I cut later on using like 500mg of test and insane amounts of cardio or will I still lose muscle along with the fat?

 

[Nathan]

Ok what Im gonna do is this is a test/deca cycle so Im gonna go all out on bulking I may put the winny in there to keep bloat down.Lets say I do this and take like 3 months off could I cut later on using like 500mg of test and insane amounts of cardio or will I still lose muscle along with the fat?

Yeah, the test will help you hold on to muscle for sure. Just eat clean and don't go excessively high over maintenance calories and you should fine that fat gain, if any will be minimal. You may even lose some fat who knows.