New Idea on post cycle recovery?

[gunner44]

Can I throw out a new idea on post cycle recovery?

After long and brutal cycles, doesnt it make sense to go on a "temporary" hrt cycle like 100-150 mg e7 or e5 days for 2-3 months.

This would allow your system to normalize as much as possible to a "normal" amount of testosterone in the system. Comming off of this type of bridge,HRT, or what ever you want to call it has worked for me after a 22 week 1 gram per week cycle.

I knew my system had "normalized" when I began to get good Am wood EVERY morning during my HRT dosage cycle. I had actually lost good am wood after about week 18 and it took only about 2 weeks at 150mg of Test E5d to get the AM wood back. There has to be something going RIGHT when your AM rythm returns to normal, or returns at all. I did a 6 week HRT cycle if you will, with good AM (real good actually) wood after about the first 2 weeks. I went cold turkey after that and my AM wood began to taper off to a more normal level, but didnt go away.

I think we need to listen to what our bodies are telling us.

I am really thinking these days that going cold turky and hitting a 2-4 week PCT cycle just isnt the only way to skin the cat.

I have gleened a lot from posts by us older guys on HRT. I think there is something to be learned from us older guys who have had low or depressed Test levels prior to ever hitting the juice.

For me, it was just hard to relate to being in my 20's and doing gear, because I had forgot what it felt like to be "NORMAL". After doing an HRT cycle, It kind of reminded me what normal was.

I really am leaning towards tapering,cruising, or HRT after every cycle from now on for 4-6 weeks with just good old testosterone. It just makes sense to me that this approach might very well be the best way to get your hormone system back to normal after using gear. No matter what the cycle length or amount or type of gear used.

OK Let me have it, iam ready!! LOL

 

[Judo Tom]

it is kinda like the old school taper idea..

i would say if you did a long brutal cycle that going on test cyp at 200-250mg per week for 6-8 weeks wouldnt hurt..

i also like using the most supressive gear in a cycle first for just that reason..

10mg dbol in the am for a few weeks works also...

nice post...

 

[gunner44]

Thanks Judo.

I did 2 d-bol bridges and they worked well, but my morning wood cycle never really came back the same way it did on the test. Obviously , the d-bol wasnt providing the necessary DHT, but there were probably more things going on.

Possibly Test is the only androgen that has a 1 dimensional effect to the endocrine system. It is clear that other steroids exhibit sometimes strange side effects,ie. Deca for instance.

I am starting to think that an over abundance of Test is easier for the body to handle than other steroids, especially when stacked.

Test is naturally occuriong in the body so you would think that your body would be more capable of dealing with fluctuating levels vs. other steroids which bind more redily to the receptors like Tren, or D-bol which works in non receptor related ways.

 

[liftingfreak1983]

hey i did an 8-week cycle of fina and that shit shut me down hard, but when i got off i was having tons of sex....can i contribute the sex to gettin my natural test going again???

 

[gunner44]

Fina is weird,

I did a 3 weeker with it and it shut me down for 10 weeks. My nat test came in at 59 ng/dl !! But i really didnt feel all that messed up.

How old r u ? I dont think that younger guys are as effected as us older guys when it comes to the sex drive being shuht down.

It could be tat a younger man will still produce a limited amount of natural test even during a cycle, not being completely shut down. Actually, i dont think being toatlly shut down is even possible. I was at 69 and that was the lowest number my endo had ever seen, and he was an ex lifter/jock.

I would fair a guess that the amount of "shut down" is relative to the amount you are producing naturally.

On a good day, 5 years ago pre gear, 500 ng/dl was where I was at and it sucked!! I was gaining fat everywhere and not gaining at all in the gym.

To answer your question, I bet you were still producing some test on your own and since fina is short acting, you probably started to bounce back fairly quickly.