New Cycles - Help me fix em up!

[strentrainin]

Ok, first things first even though I have listed my stats at leas 4-5 times on here I'll list again so there is no discrepancy. I am also posting for a buddy of mine who is getting ready to run his first cycle
Me -
age: 25
height: 5'10
weight: 175
number of cycles: 2
body fat: 11-12%

Friend -
25
5'11
180
never ran a cycle before
body fat about 10%

I know he is going to run Test only at 250mg for 12-14 weeks. I have him lined as such:
1-12 Test E or Sust @ 250mg ew
1-12 N2guard
8-14 HCG 500iu ew
Arimidex if needed

PCT: Clomid 1-4 50,25,25,12.5
Unleashed
DAA
HCGenerate

pretty simple lay-out i think he'll be pleased. I know I was on my first cycle

Now for me.
Previous cycles. Test E only, Test C with anavar at 60mgs and a beast cycle
Goals are to put on lean muscle with minimal water. Diet will be 1000 calories over maintenance. Then I will cut at the end to try to lean out and shed some serious body fat.

Looking at
Dbol or Anadrol @ 30-50 depending on compound 1-4
Sust 1-14 @ 500mg
Either Var or Eq. I'd like to hear some more feed back on Eq, seems to be mixed opinions. I loved var when I ran it. great on the tail end of a cycle. Looking at mast, also but if ran the mast I wouldn't kick start with dbol or anadrol. Id run sust or test e, mast and var or winny. Just depends on how I feel and what my weight is come time. I can get anything and most of it is top notch.
So either
Dbol or A50 1-4 @ 30-50mg
Sust or Test E 1-4 @ 500
Eq 1-14 @ 400-600
or
Test E 1-14 @ 500
Mast 1-8 @ 500-600
Var 8-14 @ 60-80
or
Test E 1-14 @ 500
Eq 1-14 @ 500
Mast 6-14 @ 500

Arimidex eod, N2guard, Hcgenerate throughout, HCG last half up until PCT at 1000 for first week, then 500.

PCT:
Clomid 50,25,12.5,12.5
Unleashed Double dosed
DAA
Post Cycle
N2guard
Creatine
HCGenerate or HCG

Let me know what you think... Really don't care a whole lot for Deca just because of the water and how the gains arent quality all the guys i know have ran it haven't kept much of it and it seems to bloat them up and make them more irritable than anything else.. just doesn't appeal to me... thinking about tren ace at low dose but just not sure i'm ready... love to run it with test i just would have to see how i respond and if i slept, how i felt mood wise and if I didn't lose my appetite. LEt me know what you guys think.

 

[MattJS]

If you're looking for minimal water I'd forget about Dbol or Anadrol, test mast and var would prob be best for your goals, your friends cycle looks fine but 14 weeks is too long, 10-12 is better, PCT could use some post cycle, also I'd say use the test e rather than sust... I'd forget the tren for now seems unnecessary...

 

[training700]

no need for n2guard for your friends cycle

 

[joeblow12345]

For your buddies cycle I'd throw an oral kicker in. Katana is a nice for lean gains or dbol for quick mass if he doesn't mind some bloat.


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[EZ_E]

What was your weight before the previous 2 cycles? (If you remember)

~EZ

 

[dylangemelli]

for your buddies cycle... you don't need n2guard that long... definitely run hcg... at least run it weeks 9-14... blast it weeks 13 and 14 at 1000 ius week... he could run hcgenerate week 7-12...

for your cycle... if your going to run test e then run mast e as well... realize that if you run eq that you need to run it 16 weeks... test, mast and anavar is a fucking sweet cycle bro... i would really run all prop on that cycle but if you want to extend it out then run 12 weeks of test and mast e...

if you want to run eq then run 16 weeks of test, mast and eq... i would kick start and finish with anavar on that cycle...

either one will be fucking sweet... it just depends on how long you really want to run a cycle for...

 

[Bulldog333]

Would mast be the best choice on this cycle? If his bf is 11-12% doesn't the mast have a much more pronounced effect at a lower bf%? Just trying to get u the most bang for ur buck plus I'm interested in mastering since I'm at the same bf as u.

 

[dylangemelli]

Would mast be the best choice on this cycle? If his bf is 11-12% doesn't the mast have a much more pronounced effect at a lower bf%? Just trying to get u the most bang for ur buck plus I'm interested in mastering since I'm at the same bf as u.

Its ideal to be under. 10% running mast but on this cycle he should be close to that quickly if diet and training are on point

 

[strentrainin]

I should be right around 10% by the time I start. I wont start for a month or so. I'd like to run Eq for the quality lean gains but I just hear some people say they got nothing from it except and appetite increase. I loved var, and i'm sure mast would be icing on the cake.

 

[strentrainin]

Looking at this as of now.
Dbol @ 30mg 1-4
Test E @ 500 1-15
Eq @ 400-500 1-16

have a lot of var, thought about throwing it in the last 6 weeks, just skeptical.
If it is quality Eq, will 400-500 be sufficient? I would like 12-15 lean pounds out of this cycle.