New Cycle?

[RearNaked]

I am itching to start a new test/tren cycle right now. 5'8, 194, 17%. What I have on hand is:

- test pro 100 - 10ml
- test cyp 200 - 30ml
- tren ace 75 - 20ml
- sust 275 - 10ml
- winstrol 10
- raloxifene 60

- sustain alpha
- phyto test
- trib/6oxo
- cla

Possibly access to Nolva and HCG 4-6 weeks.
Discovered last test cycle gyno prone. 500/wk, no anti-e's.
Never done tren yet, what would a good test:tren ratio be?
Diet is gtg.
What can I add/turf from this?
Winstrol fucks up my joints. Anavar?

I hear tren can fuck up your mind, give you horrible night sweats. Anything you can do to minimize that shit? Thanks bros.

 

[machinehead]

Hi,

What is your target? cutting/bulking?
I guess cutting because the BF%, well test prop is enough, you don't need to take test prop and test cyp together, tren ace you should take 75-100mgs EOD, winstrol 50mgs ED is great cycle for cutting.

you can drop the sust,test cyp, for gyno use arimidex, if not help use letrozole, but letro will kill your sex drive.

Anavar is better than winstrol, but it too much pricey, 40mgs ED of anavar is g2g, for 6 weeks.
I would recommend you to user REAL PCT like tamoxifen not MyoGENX or another supps.

For tren - before bed, eat only protein and fats, no carbs, carbs will cause the night sweats while you will be on tren.

 

[RearNaked]

I thought raloxifene was similar to nolva? Shouldn't take Nolva with tren though? Maybe I should drop the tren, and just do test. I'm pretty sure I have access to letro as well as clomid. Prop @ 50mg eod, Cyp @ 400/wk.

 

[RearNaked]

Beneficial effects of raloxifene and tamoxifen in the treatment of pubertal gynecomastia.
Lawrence SE, Faught KA, Vethamuthu J, Lawson ML.
Department of Pediatrics, University of Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.

[email protected]

OBJECTIVES: To assess the efficacy of the anti-estrogens tamoxifen and raloxifene in the medical management of persistent pubertal gynecomastia.

STUDY DESIGN: Retrospective chart review of 38 consecutive patients with persistent pubertal gynecomastia who presented to a pediatric endocrinology clinic. Patients received reassurance alone or a 3- to 9-month course of an estrogen receptor modifier (tamoxifen or raloxifene).

RESULTS: Mean (SD) age of treated subjects was 14.6 (1.5) years with gynecomastia duration of 28.3 (16.4) months. Mean reduction in breast nodule diameter was 2.1 cm (95% CI 1.7, 2.7, P <.0001) after treatment with tamoxifen and 2.5 cm (95% CI 1.7, 3.3, P <.0001) with raloxifene. Some improvement was seen in 86% of patients receiving tamoxifen and in 91% receiving raloxifene, but a greater proportion had a significant decrease (>50%) with raloxifene (86%) than tamoxifen (41%). No side effects were seen in any patients.

CONCLUSION: Inhibition of estrogen receptor action in the breast appears to be safe and effective in reducing persistent pubertal gynecomastia, with a better response to raloxifene than to tamoxifen. Further study is required to determine that this is truly a treatment effect.

PMID: 15238910 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

 

[GUARDIAN]

Bro u got mail.

Beneficial effects of raloxifene and tamoxifen in the treatment of pubertal gynecomastia.
Lawrence SE, Faught KA, Vethamuthu J, Lawson ML.
Department of Pediatrics, University of Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.

[email protected]

OBJECTIVES: To assess the efficacy of the anti-estrogens tamoxifen and raloxifene in the medical management of persistent pubertal gynecomastia.

STUDY DESIGN: Retrospective chart review of 38 consecutive patients with persistent pubertal gynecomastia who presented to a pediatric endocrinology clinic. Patients received reassurance alone or a 3- to 9-month course of an estrogen receptor modifier (tamoxifen or raloxifene).

RESULTS: Mean (SD) age of treated subjects was 14.6 (1.5) years with gynecomastia duration of 28.3 (16.4) months. Mean reduction in breast nodule diameter was 2.1 cm (95% CI 1.7, 2.7, P <.0001) after treatment with tamoxifen and 2.5 cm (95% CI 1.7, 3.3, P <.0001) with raloxifene. Some improvement was seen in 86% of patients receiving tamoxifen and in 91% receiving raloxifene, but a greater proportion had a significant decrease (>50%) with raloxifene (86%) than tamoxifen (41%). No side effects were seen in any patients.

CONCLUSION: Inhibition of estrogen receptor action in the breast appears to be safe and effective in reducing persistent pubertal gynecomastia, with a better response to raloxifene than to tamoxifen. Further study is required to determine that this is truly a treatment effect.

PMID: 15238910 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

 

[RearNaked]

Holy fuck...I think I will leave the tren out of this cycle indefinitely now. I haven't slept at all in 3 nights now. I don't think I should even be posting cycle shit right now. Got some unexpected company on Monday, staying til Sunday, women and small children, lots of them. This sucks. I just tried to get some shuteye, seeing as they are all out of my fucking house at the moment, and I can't fall asleep for some fucked up reason. I feel weird as fuck, I am at the point where the clock ticking on the wall is driving me fucking insane. I am going to snap, or die, I don't know. Just started thinking about cycles last night, cuz everything is pissing me off, and I can't fall asleep. Sorry if I don't make a lot of sense bros. I'll add somemore info, if this thread seems fucked, it's my state of mind, please delete it...again my apologies.

What about this?

1-5 test prop - 50mg eod
1-10 test cyp - 400mg ew
4-10 HCG - 250iu 2x ew

1-4 dbol - 40mg ed? - or,
5-10 anavar - 40mg ed? or neither?

letro on hand. adex on hand.

Need help with PCT. Clomid + Nolva? Going to use Sustain Alpha, Post Cycle + Unleashed.

I'm trying to find more info on this raloxifene shit, but not having a lot of luck. I was advised to run it every day, but at what point in cycle, I do not know. I simply want to bulk again. Only 3rd cycle. First one was years ago, only primo + winny, second was last fall, test + winny w/bad-non existent PCT. Fully recovered now. Thanks, fuck I feel horrible, going to try to sleep again, hopefully it works...check back later.

 

[anadrol-king]

your body fat is too hight to be useing aas this can only lead too gyno problems .

the mucle you do gain will be hidden by your fat....

try snd drop bf to around12% before useing any steroid

 

[GUARDIAN]

1-5 test prop - 50mg eod
1-10 test cyp - 400mg ew
4-10 HCG - 250iu 2x ew

or

1-4 d/bol - 30-40mg ed
1-10 test cyp - 400mg ew
4-10 HCG - 250iu 2x ew

no need to have both dbol & prop to kickstart. either one is sufficient though i am partial to my buddy dbol. he and I go way back

 

[RearNaked]

1-5 test prop - 50mg eod
1-10 test cyp - 400mg ew
4-10 HCG - 250iu 2x ew

or

1-4 d/bol - 30-40mg ed
1-10 test cyp - 400mg ew
4-10 HCG - 250iu 2x ew

no need to have both dbol & prop to kickstart. either one is sufficient though i am partial to my buddy dbol. he and I go way back

Deadly. Thanks a lot bro. Yea, I know my bf is high, I want to sneak this cycle in before I head back to work for the summer, as I will be cutting all summer, last chance for a bulk cycle until likely Oct or Nov. Anyone advise on PCT? What should I have? I am going to see this guy again tonite, he is very hard to talk to, and intimidating as fuck. 6'2, 22" arms, 11% bf. Half way thorough a 4 month cycle. Should know what he's talking about, but I want to do it the proper EF way, this guy is not big on the PCT, which scares me. I just wanna tell him exactly what else I need for my PCT so I can get started. Thanks again bros.

 

[GUARDIAN]

Good luck!

Deadly. Thanks a lot bro. Yea, I know my bf is high, I want to sneak this cycle in before I head back to work for the summer, as I will be cutting all summer, last chance for a bulk cycle until likely Oct or Nov. Anyone advise on PCT? What should I have? I am going to see this guy again tonite, he is very hard to talk to, and intimidating as fuck. 6'2, 22" arms, 11% bf. Half way thorough a 4 month cycle. Should know what he's talking about, but I want to do it the proper EF way, this guy is not big on the PCT, which scares me. I just wanna tell him exactly what else I need for my PCT so I can get started. Thanks again bros.